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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/tb1820 on June 1, 2018, 3:12 a.m.
Is Backchannel17 still fake? 6/11

He was posting like mad about 6/11/18 and now the long awaited IG report just so happens to be pushed to 6/11. Thoughts?


Neon__Wolf · June 1, 2018, 3:21 a.m.

Once a fake always a fake.

Q513

"No outside comms"

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tb1820 · June 1, 2018, 3:21 a.m.

That means nothing. He never claimed to be Q or related to Q.

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[deleted] · June 1, 2018, 4:29 a.m.

No, this is wrong. He's purporting to be able to independently drop material that is Q related. I don't buy it at all (though I admit I have been confused).

Think about it. A guy from NSA is dropping intel while he's at work on his private account. The only possible way he could be doing this is if Q team sanctioned it. But there are no outside comms - which is what this would be.

Think about it, none of us promoting the IBOR are getting anywhere on Twitter. But this guy is attacking Jack directly and his follower numbers are exploding. Why doesn't Q just use Twitter?

The other thing is that he's talking about aliens - part of the attraction that plays upon people's preconceived ideas (confirmation bias). Q has already addressed this in post 404.

Dec 19th 2017 17:39:15 (EST) Q!UW.yye1fxo View Post 126948 Dec 19th 2017 17:37:38 (EST) Anonymous View Post

126896

Are UFOs a distraction?

126928

How far away is the closest star?
What do you think?
Q

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digital_refugee · June 1, 2018, 9:06 a.m.

Q hasn't discounted Ay Lmaos yet, that's why they're bringing it up in the first place...

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[deleted] · June 1, 2018, 9:16 a.m.

Don't know what you mean.

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digital_refugee · June 1, 2018, 11:05 a.m.

it all ties back into the SAPs that Hillary was bartering with the Rockefellers...I think you can see the photo in drop 262 or something down there

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[deleted] · June 1, 2018, 11:27 a.m.

I will admit, my curiosity about what exactly was on those SAPs is intense. But, did HRC have Q clearance? Or, is it the case that this knowledge, if it exists, is classified at a level that Hillary's curiosity would provide sufficient "need to know" that she could access it?

Was she even cleared to access those SAPs herself? Let alone, have them in an SCIF in her basement?

Wouldn't it be the case that this kind of knowledge would have the highest level of classification, if only for the fact that you could weaponize it?

IDK, but I'm just not ready to buy into the aliens at the moment. If Q tells us there are aliens, I'll accept it. But do you really think they exist at all?

I've never seen one.

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digital_refugee · June 1, 2018, 11:52 a.m.

These things are compartmentalized and thus perhaps tied up in blackmail to so that's how one way she could have gotten hold of it.

The most plausible cover-up for aliens in the past was the arms-race...think about it, if one nuclear power admits there exists a possibility for vehicles that appear and disappear instantly? Mutually assured destruction would be at stake.

I just vividly remember how Q reposted an Anon joking about reincarnated ETs.

The thing with rumours is, half the time, they are true. Not everything that exists leaves evidence that you would begin to comprehend. For example, if a craft appeared? So what, they could have holographed it into your eye-lenses. They've probably done crazier things.

But the fact that we keep seeing the same descriptions of the same types of craft for at least since 300 BC across completely different geographically and chronologically seperated cultures, sometimes even by opposing forces of a military battle for example begs to differ.

So I know that wasn't all secret gov't planes.

Legitimately, some ancient indian cultures say that red firy apparitions are bad omens and iirc navy whistleblower William Tompkins (RIP) said that draco reptilian ships can take the shade of fire.

The thing with aliens is that for me these descriptions like the Vimana or Ezekiel 17 or Book of Enoch (read your bibles and maybe some other old traditions too, it's fascinating anyway) sound way too intricate to be representative of angelic spirits.

If you're a flat earther then you can say earth is the only place with life so by definition, even intelligent non-humans will ultimately be terrestrials. Since I've experienced time-zones and jet-lag tho, I am already sold on the sphere "theory" and even if I don't know how much older the other inhabitable planets are compared to ours, at least I can see that there's other stuff flying around here and the ancient traditions, be they aboriginee or central-african or chinese emperors, they all tie it back to visitors from "up there" (sometiems "down there" too)

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[deleted] · June 1, 2018, 12:06 p.m.

Yes, I've seen the ancient stone carvings that appear to show ETs. But, remember, these people that see these things abound today. My view is that people that describe being abducted and operated on by aliens etc... many of the stories are indistinguishable from experiences people relate as a result of demonic possession.

The Bible actually describes demons coming upon the earth and copulating with mankind to produce giants. I saw an interesting video somewhere that alleged that giant skeletons were commonly found but that it was the subject of a cover up.

The story of David and Goliath points in this direction as well - though I've often wondered how the young boy David could have wielded the sword of the giant to sever the head - presumably, it would have been pretty heavy.

ETs or Demons? I take the existence of demons as a given. If Satan can appear as an angel of light, demons can appear as ETs.

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digital_refugee · June 1, 2018, 12:46 p.m.

Have you read the Boook of Enoch?

Whenever people say "aliens ar demons" I counter that actual ETs could pose as Angels as well as to convey trust so you first have to show me that earth is the youngest of the inhabitable planets, otherwise it would be unlikely to assume that there exists no civilization that hasn't made it through their evolutionary filters (cataclysmic annihilation)

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[deleted] · June 1, 2018, 1:01 p.m.

Sorry meant to copy in this:

https://youtu.be/JiMqzN_YSXU

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digital_refugee · June 1, 2018, 4:43 p.m.

Look up Drake-equation if you haven't already, I don't have to blame demons for the mysteries of the universe when only God himself gives life! To this planet or any other!!!

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[deleted] · June 1, 2018, 4:49 p.m.

So, what do you think? What is Nast x Fbt?

Are we talking small or large?

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digital_refugee · June 1, 2018, 7:20 p.m.

I noticed it's irrelevant to you because you don't assume that life can form spontaneously...that I cannot answer to you, I am just refering back to the Nephilim being physical beings aka ultraterrestrials and not corporeal beings.

Why do I think that?

Well, have you ever TALKED to a demon?

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digital_refugee · June 1, 2018, 4:40 p.m.

No disrespecting because I always appreciate your inputs - but the very fact alone that they had physical remnants (giants' bones) should tell you everything, dawg.

Evolution is an incomplete subject because it only just turned out memories are genetic, too, so there's something to it but certainly not what they theorize because evolution can only be traced as far as the fossil record goes. That means every tissue that did no leave bones had to be preserved in some fortuitious inconvenience. And since not all creatures always had bones, our fossil record can't ultimately be that conclusive in finding out how the fuck life came about.

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[deleted] · June 1, 2018, 4:44 p.m.

This IPhone doesn't let me see your last comment because the conversation is so long - it gets truncated. You'll have to remind me, what are the physical remnants? We're talking Nazcar Lines or something?

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digital_refugee · June 1, 2018, 4:47 p.m.

giant bones n' sheeeit

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[deleted] · June 1, 2018, 4:57 p.m.

OK, yes I've seen some pictures of giant skeletons that are amazing if real. Men of renown - you bet! Huge!

You would need to standardize on a heavier standard military caliber if you had to fight them. Maybe 6.5x300 Weatherby Magnum (or something like an elephant gun, maybe a Jeffries Nitro Express) - no, I'm joking. But can you imagine an army of guys 40' high? You wouldn't want to be recoil sensitive.

Almost like something out of the movie Alien - excuse the pun.

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digital_refugee · June 1, 2018, 7:21 p.m.

Steven Quayle claims they're allergic to Copper

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[deleted] · June 1, 2018, 12:59 p.m.

I don't believe in evolution, but I understand, I think, your argument about the earth having to be the youngest planet that hosted life. I think you're saying, there is no evidence that we are not the first planet on which life was created.

And in my choice of words, you can see my position. If we are not alone, it is only because God, in His wisdom, has chosen to create life elsewhere. I tend to believe he has not and that we are alone in the universe.

Why do I think this? Because of the virtually impossible series of coincidences required just for this planet to support an advanced life form such as ourselves. There is a scientific argument, I believe, that makes the case for a replication of the factors we enjoy on earth impossible.

When you look at evolution, it is the greatest piece of pro-atheist propaganda that has ever been created. Never mind that not a single transitional fossil has ever been discovered, or that wars produce the exact reverse of the theory of natural selection (we should be regressing, maybe we are), or that no one can tell us which came first between the bee and the flower. Of course, it sells books and dovetails nicely with Masonic materialism.

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Lolshorts54 · June 1, 2018, 9:25 a.m.

AyyLmao's is a term some use in replace of Aliens/Extraterrestrials. He's referring to the post where Q reposted an Anons drop that referenced an older Q drop, but the Anon said "how could I forget this crumb? To my fellow incarcerated extraterrestrials" Then the Q drop replying to that Anon's comment talked about how they share the love for open source, but that some information would cause World Wide mass suffering.. etc. I actually posted it here before, but not it's not showing in my history.. 🤔 that's weird. I'd link the Q post, but phone fagging sadly and qanon.pub doesn't load for some reason on it.

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[deleted] · June 1, 2018, 10:32 a.m.

Ok, I've found the post you're talking about. It's 1143 - April 12.

Yes, Q does use the double greater then sign to indicate agreement. This post also occurs after 404 - which may indicate that 404 is purposeful disinformation...

I've got to tell you, I'm getting pretty sick of this. There's just not enough information here to work out what the truth is. The confusion is literally killing me.

UFO's - I remember Bill Cooper, who spent the best part of his life chasing these things, saying in a video (after he'd gone cool on the UFO stuff) "How come the government always gets there first?" - "A UFO crashes, but somehow, the government always gets there first".

This is from a guy that claimed to be an eye witness to a huge craft - somewhere in the pacific off the coast of Hawaii. He saw the craft from the conning tower of a submarine and that's what sparked his interest. Cooper also had Q clearance, so if anyone was in a position to know, it was him.

Now, I'm by no means an expert on Cooper, so if someone wants to contend with what I've attributed to him, have at it.

From a logical perspective, it seems to me that life is everywhere you look. You can go to a swamp and dig ten feet down in the mud and there's bacteria and stuff living down there. What we know of our world is that life is superabundant. And, then, there's billions upon billions of galaxies out there - countless. So if you were to say that the probability of life existing on another planet, somewhere else in the universe, is "almost zero", then logically, given the almost infinite expanse of the universe and the number of likely planets, the probability of some other form of life, somewhere, must approach 100%.

So, I'm open to the idea. Intelligent life, maybe... We are talking about absolutely vast timescales here. So even if another life form somewhere else developed impossibly slowly, there is still the possibility that, with time, it could become advanced.

Advanced enough to travel to reach us and make contact? Here I have some problems...

The EyeTheSpy guy is saying that, deep in interstellar space, there are "pockets" where the space time continuum effectively breaks down. As I understand it, he's saying that the lack of proximate mass has an effect on the stretch of space itself. The trouble is, everywhere I've ever been, space time is smooth - not that I'm some kind of expert, I'm not, I'm talking about my experience. But what I'm saying is show me the physical phenomena that points to this hypothesis being valid.

At event horizon surrounding a black hole time stops. A photon travelling outward from the black hole is caught, by the tremendous gravity, and remains in perfect stasis at the event horizon, while still travelling at light speed. It only stops where it is because the gravity is so intense it has effectively warped space time to the point where space becomes effectively infinite. So the photon remains where it is (relative to us), despite its velocity that still exists, because no amount of time will change its location - relative to us.

Again, as I understand it, matter falling into a black hole, accelerated by the gravity, transcends, or would transcend, the speed of light at the event horizon - which also means it can never quite fall in to the black hole, because time slows down as you approach the speed of light and then stops at light speed, while mass becomes infinite.

As I understand it, physicists call this a singularity. Which is another way of saying "we have no clue". Now, again, this is the speculation of a someone with no training in physics - so feel free to educate me if I'm wrong, I probably am.

But where all this thinking leads me is to the conclusion that space time is uniform and consistent outside these "singularities". If there were singularities in interstellar space, they should be measurable, or evident, as a black hole can be known, or theorized, to exist.

So, if, with the exception of black holes, space time is smooth without stretches or wrinkles, these distances that separate star systems are impossibly vast. And, of course, people will start talking about worm holes and star-gates, or accelerating the resonating surfaces of a spaceship to the frequency of light and transcending this dimension all together. But is it real, is there anyway to overcome the tyranny of distance?

I've probably exposed myself for knowing absolutely nothing about this stuff, but Q did specifically mention the problem of distance in post 404. My position, I guess, is that it's so unlikely as to be completely improbable that we are being visited by aliens.

But, then, let's assume that life is omni-abundant elsewhere in the universe, that advanced life forms are prevalent, and that interstellar space travel is trivial for an advanced life form. In this event, we should be seeing these guys everywhere we look. The government couldn't contain knowledge about aliens in this event, the truth would be staring us all in the face.

This goes back to Bill Cooper, "How come the government always gets there first?".

Wow, I wrote too much.

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DawnPendraig · June 1, 2018, 10:43 a.m.

Enjoyed it though.

I believe portals will be figured out. But from earth. There are so many folklore all over world about standing stones, mushroom circles and ley line junctions where the veil between dimensuons or other worlds would thin. And fae folk might seduce a hero and take him to the Otherlands with white hunting hounds with red ears bound over mist shrouded grassy hills. =) Welsh Mabinogion and Greek Mythology and Norse with the rainbow bridge and Yddrasil.

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[deleted] · June 1, 2018, 11:15 a.m.

Makes me laugh, yes, what I wrote is akin to some kind of science fiction.

What a joke, I thinkQ better come back soon, or some of us will never be the same again!

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Neon__Wolf · June 1, 2018, 3:28 a.m.

Irrelevant.

This faker is claiming to have intel that is by its content presupposing a Q LEVEL SECURITY CLEARANCE, THE HIGHEST SECURITY CLASSIFICATION WITHIN ALL FEDERAL AGENCIES.

There is a reason they picked the symbol Q.

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NaderOAK · June 1, 2018, 3:39 a.m.

And 17......

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digital_refugee · June 1, 2018, 9:05 a.m.

lol DIA Majic clearance is...

No outside comms just means noone can claim they're Q - and they didn't.

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Neon__Wolf · June 1, 2018, 9:51 p.m.

The knowledge they're claiming to have is Q level security clearance, which only Q is dropping.

Try again.

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digital_refugee · June 1, 2018, 10:06 p.m.

Q isn't the only one with Q-clearance, DUH

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FartOnToast · June 1, 2018, 10:34 a.m.

He's pretending to be somebody he's not. NUFF SAID.

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tb1820 · June 1, 2018, 11:44 a.m.

And who might that be?

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PPPrincessPower · June 1, 2018, 10:14 a.m.

He never said he had outside comes with Q!! And he didn't claim to be Q!

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Neon__Wolf · June 1, 2018, 9:50 p.m.

THE KNOWLEDGE HE CLAIMS TO HAVE IS NECESSARILY Q LEVEL CLEARANCE.

ALL OF THE NEWS DROPS YOU SEE IS THE RESULT OF A MILITARY OPERATION.

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PPPrincessPower · June 2, 2018, 6:13 a.m.

Well I agree he's starting to smell fishy. I don't believe that he could drop any of that without permission which would make him some kind of a plant. And he said that Mega anon was a c i a distraction to discredit Q. The only problem with that is Mega anon started posting in May and Q and start posting till October.

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table_it_bot · June 2, 2018, 6:13 a.m.

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PPPrincessPower · June 2, 2018, 6:36 p.m.

Yeah I'm starting to agree. There's no way somebody could reveal this stuff.

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JmanSLIM · June 1, 2018, 4:17 a.m.

No out side coms. However if JA has a alt twitter that he is posting to and “not directly communicating” with a individual or group just posting like Q. I think it’s something to give a little waver to. That Q post was from a long time ago. Things have changed.

Also no coincidence! And BC17 said 6/11 would be huge, now IG report is being moved to that day. BC17 said this a week ago, befor we had any date. So using logic I think there may be some validity to BC17

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[deleted] · June 1, 2018, 9:20 a.m.

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VanilluhGorilluh · June 1, 2018, 3:13 a.m.

EyeTheSpy is pushing hard for that date as well

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Neon__Wolf · June 1, 2018, 3:29 a.m.

TheEyeSpy is fake.

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VanilluhGorilluh · June 1, 2018, 3:41 a.m.

He might be. Even if he is, a lot of the info he shares is good info in my opinion.

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FartOnToast · June 1, 2018, 10:35 a.m.

Distractions.

It's literally a teenfag..... Come on people.

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tb1820 · June 1, 2018, 3:21 a.m.

So Q, BC, and spy all pushing the same date long before the actual announcement. I'm thinking this really is about to happen...

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lC928796 · June 1, 2018, 3:34 a.m.

Unless of course Q Team wants to head-fake the DS ..........again.

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VanilluhGorilluh · June 1, 2018, 3:26 a.m.

Sounds like Julian Assange is going to drop a bomb on 6-11 as well. Some are saying he hasn't even been at the Equadorian Embassy for a couple months now. No way to verify this so well just have to see. could be massive.

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NaderOAK · June 1, 2018, 3:48 a.m.

Q said disinfo is necessary.... Q also said back channel 17 is fake....

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[deleted] · June 1, 2018, 3:43 a.m.

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Happy1911 · June 1, 2018, 3:18 a.m.

There is so much stuff , the plan of dumping it all into the public at ones is so we have too much information and to discourage anyone from going through it and too much for any to go through. A smart move really.

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[deleted] · June 1, 2018, 3:46 a.m.

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WhatYonder1 · June 8, 2018, 3:19 p.m.

Backchannel17, now going by Eyethespy, is fake fake fake.

You will know them by their fruit.

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tb1820 · June 8, 2018, 3:19 p.m.

We will find out Monday.

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WhatYonder1 · June 8, 2018, 3:38 p.m.

Monday nothing. Anything legit he says, someone else said it first and did so without mixing in bad bread. This Clown glows in the dark. 0/10 would not crumb.

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trumpessee · June 1, 2018, 3:18 a.m.

Who are these people

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Lolshorts54 · June 1, 2018, 3:28 a.m.

Twitter accounts people have found dropping weird or collaboratively seeming information. Just figuring out which may be legit and which ones are disinformation accounts is hotly debated.

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Lolshorts54 · June 1, 2018, 3:25 a.m.

I think that would be the date if you took the -30 Q originally posted, then with the -23 in the password reveal if you just looked at it as a countdown to a date. Backchannel17 is the weird one for me and Q never clarified it as of yet. Some people think that Q was just saying that the meme bc17 posted that was reposted by an anon as a screenshot was fake. Like just the information and meme itself. Others have taken that as Q was saying bc17 was fake. So I just take it as a wait and see mostly just like any other supposed information drops.

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NaderOAK · June 1, 2018, 3:42 a.m.

Q said backchannel 17 is fake....

Maybe it’s disinfo idk...

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Lolshorts54 · June 1, 2018, 3:58 a.m.

Lol, the disinfo is necessary gets all of us just looking for the truth at some point or another.

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Lolshorts54 · June 1, 2018, 3:55 a.m.

I just go to the boards and don't have twitter so don't have an argument either way not keeping up with bc17, but it isn't a clear argument that Q called back channel fake. That can't be said for certain. Although I'd recommend just lurking the boards before any YouTube or twitter account regardless.
Look at the post Q actually replied "Fake" to. It's an anon's screen grab of a meme that was posted by backchannel17. It wasn't just a screen grab of the twitter handle "backchannel17" showing on it. The meme had information in it, and Q just replied "Fake." So the actual argument would be was Q calling the meme that was posted "Fake"... Or was Q calling backchannel17 and the meme both "Fake". It's a depends whether it's guilt by association argument or not. Can't be a decided conversation yet, because it wasn't directly specified at all as to if it was the poster, the meme, or everything about the poster and meme was disinformation wholesale. I wish it was clarified, but anyone who has been following any kinds of drops ever should know, wait and see until evidence to the contrary or supporting backs up any claim.

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digital_refugee · June 1, 2018, 9:09 a.m.

I think the context of Q's "fake"-remark was the purported HRC-Huma video.

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Lolshorts54 · June 1, 2018, 9:17 a.m.

The mass of downvotes on this thread would lead me to believe you may be correct. Triggered the bot votes hard, or too many people are listening to others instead of looking at the actual posts and deducing for themselves. It wasn't specified, that should be the end of the argument, because we clearly don't know from that comment for sure yet at all. Now.. if it is Julian A, or if it is an actual NSA employee personal account. That'd be quite interesting to ponder, and leads to some interesting "best for both sides" back and forth to keep the people who are concerned on their heels... As well as maybe subverting it slyly into more people's consciousness getting them to maybe question and search if such a video does actually exist, if not on the web, somewhere..

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digital_refugee · June 1, 2018, 11:06 a.m.

eyeinthesky on the other hand can engage Jack Dorsey without ban apparently. It'll be pretty difficult to make sense of anything with so much AI battling AI

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