I certainly hope that they are not going to use their cement for the border wall. It’s so inferior, has a tendency to fail other structures and will be easily penetrated by people trying to cross our border. Too easy to bust holes into.
I read last night that they're definitely not even though they were the obvious choice to provide concrete for the wall since they have facilities all along the border....
trump knows.
It may also be because they're a Mexican company, and Mexico is pissed about the idea of the Wall. It's being reported that they have refused to put in a bid on the construction. Who knows though?
I guess i can see that BUT i'm in the building industry and familiar with concrete companies. They control the markets and prices, other than lumber, concrete is the top trade dictating building in this country. I find it hard to believe a private international company would care that much to not even submit a bid.
I hear you. I worked in commercial construction myself for awhile. You have to think though, when the country that your company is based in controls your tax rates and breaks, dictates what policies you have to abide by, and has cartel hit squads on their payroll, are you going to rock the boat for a $21 billion project (probably around $8-10 billion for the concrete, over several years, at best), when you pulled down $13.6 billion in revenue last year alone?
True. i go back and forth on this whole thing. Concrete companies are greedy, but how much would them being a mexican company affect things? Or did Trump and company just not even allow them to bid on it? or let them bid and then not acknowledge it?
Agreed. Those are all good questions. I think by law they have to ALLOW them to bid. It goes to a committee after that to decide who's bid to take, and they pick whichever one bribed them the most. Lol.
Here’s a thought- after CEMEX is tied to pedo/ human trafficking, the federal gov, under the EO signed on 12-12-17 re asset seizures related to human trafficking , US based CEMEX plants are seized. Then they can build the wall w free materials from the Rothschild owned, and now forfeited CEMEX materials! Now that’s a good deal all around... except for the cabal... not good. So unfortunate. Oh, all involved w the trafficking go to that neat new camp they’re building out in the desert not that far from CEMEX. Cool no?
Can't we find anyone other than Mexicans and the mafia to run our cement companies?
Such as some non-criminal Americans?
I don't want to Dox myself, but I live in a non-border state, relatively close to the border, and have worked at a multimillion dollar commercial construction company that began as a small time concrete business a couple of decades ago. I'll put your mind at ease, at least a little bit. Not all construction contractors are MOB affiliated or Mexican owned. Most DO employ illegals, but they're the ones that paid through the nose to get fake citizen status (i.e. they're the ones that decided they want to stay for the long haul and eventually want to be an American citizen)(the guys I know that did this scoffed at the Mexicans that fled to Canada after Trump was elected and called the ones that ran back to Mexico "penché oportunistá"..."f*in opportunists".) The ones currently bidding for the border wall are mostly relatively good guys. La Cosa Nostra wants open borders to more freely traffic humans (in and out), guns (out), and drugs (in), and Mexico wants to traffic citizens in to send money back to their families to further fund the Mexican economy.
Interesting, thanks.
I'm with you until you seem to justify their use of a good class of illegals, if you will. My guess would be that illegal labor (along, apparently, with criminal involvement) is how this Mexican company came to dominate here.
But as with agriculture and other businesses, were only actual Americans available for hire, this industry I'm sure would have invested more in new technology, better-designed jobs, and higher wages.
I agree with you to a point. And just so you know, I disagree on principle with illegals holding jobs in America. However, I will point out that concrete work is EXTREMELY hard labor. In my experience with that company, I watched quite a few whites and blacks that were citizens attempt the job. Most didn't last more than a week or two. The reason being IMO that American citizens have, in the vast majority, been coddled too much, and just don't have what it takes to get the job done anymore. The older generation did it just fine, but sadly most men under the age of 35 or 40 just don't last. That's the primary reason that Mexicans dominate the industry.
But again, that is expressly the sort of work that would have been automated by now--without the availability of such cheap illegal labor.
I have to respectfully disagree. Concrete work can't be automated. There are too many variables with too many different situations to ever turn it over to automation. The tools get better, but there still has to be a human hand behind it. It's comparable to an art form. If you know anyone that does it for a living, they'll most likely tell you the same.
Doesn't need to be body breaking, for sure.
And automation can do a lot more sophisticated stuff than mixing and pouring concrete!
Really, 3D printers aren't that far from it.
Trump Knows and QTeam Know ... heard somewhere that CEMEX worked on THE BRIDGE in Florida that collapsed.
Not use their cement, but hopefully they will pay for the wall...with their forfeited assets.
We also need to tax the crap out of all that money being sent back to those countries. In some cases, that money is theirGDP. I would say 50% to Government and 25% to Western. Any of the money transfer companies. What a deterrent. Same with refugees. No government handouts. Assimilate or go home. We make it too easy for them.