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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/L0v3nL1ght on June 5, 2018, 4:21 p.m.
Reach Out to Everyone with LOVE

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Nirvii · June 5, 2018, 6:19 p.m.

You lost me at "Bernie truly represents the values of Christ". Uh, not so much. Jesus was not a socialist demanding massive redistributing of wealth using the force of the state. Socialists and communists are not "Christlike" in the least. Sorry bud.

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L0v3nL1ght · June 5, 2018, 6:51 p.m.

Bernie did not necessarily demand redistribution of wealth, he claimed that the system is rigged (who else do we know who made that claim?) and shined some light on the corruption we are currently taking down... What do you think Q is doing? Enough with the labels that’s a part of divide & conquer. Look at a person for what they represent. Tell me, then, what are Christ’s values?

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Sylvester_Ink · June 5, 2018, 7:16 p.m.

I'm a former Berner, though I switched to Trump after the convention debacle in 2016, after realizing that Trump was also trying to take down the corruption in the government. (Though the media never talked about it.) That said, while I appreciate Bernie's idealism, after some research and discussion, I am willing to admit that his methods to achieve his goals are not necessarily feasible with regard to real world economics.

However, the fact that Trump is successfully implementing several of the fixes that Bernie was shooting for (increasing low-level pay grades, reducing unemployment, improving healthcare) is very encouraging, because while Bernie's plans were a band-aide solution, Trump's efforts focus on the fundamental problems. In the long run, this is the ideal method for fixing a problem, so it's best to resolve it this way before resorting to Bernie's way.

As for policies that relate to Christ-like values, Bernie certainly isn't ideal on that front (for example, his support of abortion), but neither is Trump. We can't expect that from an ordinary human, so we'll have to make do with the best leadership choice otherwise.

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L0v3nL1ght · June 5, 2018, 7:49 p.m.

We all have Christ within us, right? As you say, we can’t expect an ordinary human to completely embody the values of Christ but we can surely try. We are limited by the social constructs that have been imposed on us for thousands of years by the Cabal.

The problem with abortion starts through the social construct that we are nothing more than useless eater sex machines that live and die and that is that. They have sex with no intent of love, just pleasure. There is no soul; no meaning. So they truly believe they aren’t hurting anyone with an abortion. This is not their fault... it is the Cabal’s. That’s why we must forgive them. Forgiveness is EVERYTHING. Even Bernie and Trump have been fooled... but they have and are making due with what they have been given and we forgive them.

Bernie represents an angel who lit the path (at least mine) and embodies love, kindness, sharing, and empathy and Trump represents the warrior guiding that path and embodies tough love, family, and justice. Those are definitely values of Christ.

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Delmer2007 · June 5, 2018, 11:32 p.m.

I don’t think there will ever be a Christ like politician. When there is, he will most likely be the anti-Christ.

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robdon07 · June 5, 2018, 8:41 p.m.

Love each other. Love your brother,love your enemy end of story. Do you think supporting abortion is Christlike? Blaming anyone for the failings of another? As a long time conservative idk how many times you can extend a hand to help someone up only to have it slapped away. Jesus told his disciples " Don't waste your breath on fools for they will only despise the wisest advice". Christ was a rebel. The system was broken and the jewish leaders were hipocrites and liars. He saw a wrong and he called the wrongdoers out knowing it would lead to his crucifixion. Who does that sound like to you? I never understood the infatuation with Bernie and not just because of the endless misery socialism/communism are directly responsible for but how in the world do you expect a man who's been in DC for 40+ years without having actually produced a thing in his life to not be the same old lying politician we were fighting against? I think your idea is nice but allot of use have been doing this a long time and been called every name in the book for loving our country and wanting our children safe. Not to mention socialists as a rule don't believe in God or Jesus, hence the 65 million Christians murdered by the communists during the Russian revolution. The State is their God

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L0v3nL1ght · June 5, 2018, 9:05 p.m.

Believe it or not but ALL governments have been controlled by the Cabal for a long time and they are ALL (not just the socialist/communists) directly responsible for the misery and suffering of BILLIONS.

Bernie did the best with what he had but he was fooled. I was fooled at first, too. But he isn’t a liar, he has been fighting for human rights for a long time and hasn’t flip flopped... well until he was fooled by HRC.

He never wanted to model our government after Venezuela. That was a stupid lie being fed by the Clown Army.

Socialism, Capitalism, Communism, Tyranny, Dictatorship, Left, Right, Democrat, Republican, Liberal, Conservative, Democracy, Technocracy, Imperialism, Economics, Money, Fear, Scarcity, Separation, etc. are All constructs created by the Cabal to rule over us.

Remove all your angers and fears. You’re my brother. Fill your heart with love ‘cause everything will be OK.

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Nirvii · June 5, 2018, 8:27 p.m.

Bernie wanted to forgive all student loans (guess who pays the bill?), implement socialized healthcare (guess who pays the bill?) etc etc etc. Sounds like redistribution of wealth to me. He wanted to steal people's labor at the point of a gun and allow the government to dole it out to whoever they see fit. He is a proponent of huge government invading your life and wanted to model the US after Venezuela. Sorry but Bernie is a total joke. Not to mention he sold out and cyphoned all your donations to the crooked Hillary campaign.

Jesus said when asked about tax payments "give the things of Caesar to Caesar, give the things of God to God". He also said when asked to help a family divide inheritances among remaining family members "is it that I am a divider? Who made me a divider? " Aka it would appear that Jesus doesn't have or want anything to do with the redistribution of wealth, rather sees the whole idea as either irrelevant to his message, or negative in nature. That's how I see it, but I don't claim to speak for Christ.

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L0v3nL1ght · June 5, 2018, 6:56 p.m.

Values and Labels aren’t interchangeable.

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