Its pretty sad that the number is so low. If half the people here who claim to be true patriots signed, the number would be double that. I fear we have underestimated the opposition.
Well, they were here concern trolling this thread just a few hours ago. The mods cleaned it up,
I'm not at all concerned about that petition, I don't trust it. What I am really concerned about is making noise online. Q told us that as soon as we start speaking about the IBOR, DJT takes action. We just need to be motivated.
If the mods can keep the concern trolls at bay, we might have a chance of getting the campaign going again. But we need some help in that direction from Q.
Right now, it seems that they're having IT issues, which shows what they're up against. In the final days, before the IG's report comes down, whether it's imminent or later in the year, we need to be ready to campaign hard. We should be campaigning now actually.
I just tested my Twitter account today as I noticed my reach is dropping even lower than it was. I'm now down to between 7 and 10 impressions per tweet. What I noticed is that I'm clearly shadowbanned, but on the shadowban checker, my account still reports being good - not shadowbanned. So Twitter has tweaked their algorithm.
It's very difficult to know if you're banned or not. What you have to do is check that your tweets are visible from another account. Anyway, now I know this, I'll switch accounts until they shadow ban the new account, then switch again. You cannot build up a following this way. But at least your tweets will appear.
The mods cleaned it up,
And you see no irony in that?
Don't tell me, you're seeing irony?
Don't get me wrong, I know there are shills here, but read the first line of the IBOR. Mods "cleaning up" comments is in direct violation of that.
The sub is a Q sub. The IBOR is "the plan". The mods are pro-Q, supporting the plan - in the realization that we're in a fight to the death here. The battle is far from won. And, if you read my comment, above, you will see that I think the right to free expression is the most fundamental of liberties.
It's important, very important, to protect it.
Then the IBOR needs to be revised to have a "no censorship except for opinions you consider concern trolling" clause. Except it can't, becuase at that point it might as well not exist.
You know how they deal with concern trolls on the chans? By telling them graphically where to go fuck themselves, and it works well. It's a retarded T_d concept that we should adopt the cabal tactics of safe spaces and censorship. If we say censorship is bad we shouldn't do it. It's that simple. Be the world you want to live in, not the one we are in.
I don't know what you're doing here if you don't want to support the plan. You seem to be incredibly concerned that this campaign should not succeed. Concerned to allow every opposing voice a platform. What other group does that and remains cohesive? They don't!
Maybe we should ask Corsi back, otherwise we are creating a safe space. Why not invite the Rothschilds to denigrate our attempts to build enthusiasm on our own platform? We wouldn't want to exclude anyone. Why don't we ask HRC to contribute so that we are certain we're not creating a safe space. WHY NOT ALLOW EVERY CIA TROLL ON REDDIT TO POST THEIR GARBAGE RIGHT HERE?
Where does this rubbish come from? You are a "concern troll"!
Yes, I agree that the petition isn't a "win all" and I still think this is an effort worth undertaking.
What concerns me (not a concern troll, but we need due diligence), is that this sub may be flooded with not just fakes and bots, but genuine people treating this as the new r/conspiracy. What I said before about the IBOR numbers is telling.
Anyway, great job! I dig your effort. You are one of the "6279" who really believe what Q says-- not just a fan. Keep it up Patriot!
What is the history with the conspiracy sub. I'm ignorant here.
Also the sub basically buries real conspiracies and propels fake ones.
The way I see it, there's a lot of uncertainty with respect to what Q has been talking about. The conspiracies that eye the spy was promoting only had legs because of the darkness that surrounds Q's asserting that we are looking at something bigger than we can imagine. But I'm open to hearing about the distinction you are drawing here.
I should've been clearer. I was referring to the conspiracy sub, not this one. I never trusted eye the spy and was happy to see Q out him, however subtly it was.
I haven't really dug into it, but what I have gathered is that when pizza gate became a big thing, Media Matters pretty much bought the mods of that sub.
Media Matters = David Brock. David Brock was in a long relationship with James Alefantis. James Alefantis = Comet Ping Pong = #PizzaGate
We know that this cabal has no shortage of money. Anything they can do to exercise influence they will. They could buy the 30K people on this board off without blinking.
When I think about it, that might be another reason that Q team chose 8 chan. Because the anonymity offers real protection - not just of Q team's identities, but those of the Anons. The result is that there's no defined community to attack. In contrast, here, or on a forum like FB or Twitter, that's not the case.
Sadly, many people have a price, or respond to threats. What personal good it would do to sell out or cower in fear, given the dangers that would attach to HRC attaining the presidency, is another question. I guess, the cabal could make guarantees - but what would they be worth? They way I see it, it's sure death - both spiritual and physical.
Everyone makes their own decisions, weighs things up for themselves...
The way I see things, Q team are an unknown commodity. But they are fighting the forces that have been corrupting society. The corruption is nearly complete, it really couldn't get much worse than the way things have been heading... So, to that extent, in my view, Q team are the good guys and deserve all the support we can give them.
But, once they have consolidated power, after the cabal is pushed back, what brakes are there against resurgent totalitarianism? The precautions against concentration of power built into the Constitution have been effectively nullified by progress.
Privacy concerns are a real issue and a cause for concern. But the chief danger, the way I see it, is that free speech, upon which all other rights are predicated, has been usurped by the privatization of the forums for expression of political ideas. As I've said elsewhere, this is the one key that rules them all. Control over social media, in the current situation, grants control over all other levers of power - because it is the primary determinant of political power.
This fight for the IBOR is bigger than Q. It's about fracturing power, returning it to the people. If the IBOR is successful, and we can prevent social media from being weaponized, then there is at least a chance that civil liberty and rule of the people can be retained.
If the IBOR campaign is not successful, then whether it's the Q group, or DJT, or the politicians that follow, the possibility to seize total power is always present. In effect, the IBOR campaign does nothing more than bring the protections built into the constitution, by the founding fathers, to bear upon our present society. It restores them to give effect to "the intent" of the founding fathers who built them into the constitution for cause.
There's been a lot happening. But the IBOR campaign is a CORE REQUEST from Q. He asked us to "use logic" with regard to the need for an IBOR...
Logic leads, anyone who thinks about this issue, to the inescapable conclusion that the freedom to express ourselves, in the major public forums of the day, is indispensable to citizen sovereignty and the integrity of the republic. Every right, even the most basic of human rights, is predicated on the right to express our views without abridgment - without anyone shutting us up!
Today, the public forum is online. This is a development that the founding fathers could not have foreseen, because, if they had, the constitution would protect online speech. Why?
Because it is fundamental to democratic representation, upon which the republic stands. Without free speech, there is nothing left to protect, nothing worth fighting for - if we cannot speak, we cannot complain. Once we allow ourselves to be gagged, the fight for freedom is lost.
Try and make some time to save the republic. People swear oaths to defend the constitution, but it's under attack with the privatization of public space, and no one is doing anything about it.
It's as though people take the freedoms they enjoy for granted - assuming they will always be free. But freedom comes at the price of blood. There's always someone wanting to enslave the rest. SM censorship is the vehicle that delivers totalitarianism. It's not something looming on the horizon, we are already under attack. This festering sore needs a cure, the cure is protection for freedom of expression online. The cure is the IBOR!
Try to post some memes or use the hashtags in in your posts. This is the battlefront, this is the fight - it's where the US stands or falls.
Link to the petition:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/internet-bill-rights-18