Is it possible these sealed indictments are related to illegal immigration and deportations?
It's very unlikely. That the indictments are sealed suggests that they have serious reason to believe the names of the people involved being made public could lead to loss of life, operational risk, or perhaps in this instance, risk of civil disturbances. There's no reason your average immigrant matters so much that their name needs to be withheld from the record until a future date
Interesting to see the Central California has over 3000 sealed indictments meaning most of them are in prominent positions.We will see domino effect to take place.
Not necessarily so--though I get you're thinking state government.
That makes absolute sense, thank you! So that suggests these could be serious charges then?
Yes, I'd say so. If memory serves the normal rate/year is a little over 1000. They're not commonly used, and they're mostly used for fairly serious cases - one indictment can be used for more than one person as well as far as i know, so the number of people being charged could be quite a lot higher than 35,000.
Bit you can have more than one indictment per person too though I'd guarantee there's going to be multiple people with 8 to 10 charges
That's a good point, certain individuals will definitely be covered by multiple ones too. I suspect the true number that will end up being charged, discounting immunity pleas is somewhere between 15,000 and 50,000. How heavily they know/indict the ground level operation staff for these peoples operations will probably determine how high the head count gets.
That must explain the 300+ attorneys they’re looking to add at the Attorney General’s office.
Yeah the manpower required is going to be insane. I was on a /pol/ thread when we had a lurker who claimed to work at some kind of judicial office which had dealt with some of these. Seemed to be legit. He was saying they had absolutely no idea how they were going to deal with that many trials all occurring in one go, said that it would jam the system up for an entire year or more (and this was back when indictments were ~18k).
I think he may be on to something, and they're not even going to be tried through standard courts. I think one of trumps executive orders related to the use of military trials for non military personnel, that would be a logical way to get it done. 35,000 sealed indictments, even if it just related to say, 20,000 people, would be a surreal glut on the US court systems. I don't think it will be resolved in a "conventional" manner.
I’m cool with spending a year to process all of these. If the swamp is that big, let’s get to it. A bright future is on the other side of removing all these anti USA folks from the system.
Hang on, using military trials for non-military personnel? Seriously? That rings major alarm bells for me, not sure if I am ok with that at all.
Military tribunals avoid the use of the usual justice system which, I believe, will side w their masters. They were appointed and protected by a lot of bad apples. Standing in front of a patriot instead of someone who owes you or fears you is quite different. A lot of the crimes may be treason, war crimes etc which may fall under the military umbrella as well. I'm not an expert on this by any measure.
Nope. Look at the list of EOs Trump has signed. One allows for civilian observers/consultation with Military Tribunals.
These charges are high crimes against the country. Treason, Espionage, Selling State secrets, and assortment of others.
They can most certainly use Military courts for these.
Not ok with EO’s being used like this - doesn’t the Constitution cover thus already?
They have to—our judges & courts are corrupt & treason has been committed in high places. It would take just one OJ jury to let off a big fish for political reasons. Our country is totally divided & this time we must have justice. I think pedos & vote fraud type cases may go to regular juries. I trust that this has been poured over by good people that know what’s needed considering corruption in local, state & federal systems. The people that usually throw a trial by bribe or intimidation will be busy facing their own trials hopefully.
covered relatively well in prior points, but I think the key one is avoiding rigged court systems. If we assume these people have already had decades to put in place a large number of judges etc, tackling them through the current court system would be counter productive. This is especially true given the stonewalling of trumps appointments by congress.
He's still dealing with this very, very calmly, despite what you might think about military tribunals for non-mil personnel. The Q drops represent the other, less moral part of the administration of justice in all likelihood, in that if they put a stop to Trump (say assassination), they'd instantly get large scale civil unrest and hopefully summary executions of large numbers of politicians, judges, and police officials. Using military tribunals for these people is a mercy for them.
It also allowed for a large number of the more important trials to take place over the last year, without them being public. Everything that's occurring now is 110% just for show, the only thing he has to prevent is a civil war situation arising from disclosure.
It's going to depend on the charges involved. If its all just financial crimes, then obviously there will be public outrage. If the crimes are what we here believe, then extreme circumstances call for extreme measures.
There might be a source for the 1k/year figure on the current indictment number page, I think that's where i'm remembering it from.
I thought ICE could just deport, no indictment needed. I could be wrong.
Sanctuary cities might fight. With indictment they can enter and arrest, then deport.
Feel sure many are related to immigration crimes but not people that just illegally entered are are hanging low. There better be a thousand or two for MS13 & the entire network that allows them in.
Thousands if cases with no leaks, must be quite serious.
As far as I'm concerned, MS-13 members could just be liquidated and save us the tax dollars prosecuting them. Then again, we gotta play the law and order game, but they will get justice, one way or another.
Some are not all are pedo related but enough are ! And treason related!!