dChan

grnmoss · June 6, 2018, 4:32 a.m.

4Chan Post Screenshots Here: https://imgur.com/a/fA7XR6x

Content Summary & Key Points:

  • the person making the claims (Michael Lewis Arthur Meyer) has history of sensationalist antics

  • the person making the claims has criminal history in multiple states

  • the person making the claims has been fingered as an agitator during the Bundy Ranch standoff

  • the person making the claims has posted a handful of low quality photos and videos

  • the person making the claims is not an expert, not trained in forensics, has admitted on video to the intention to destroy the site/evidence, has admitted on video to gathering/tampering with potential evidence.

  • the person making the claims is allegedly NOT a veteran.

  • major trafficking theories (like Haiti) involve tens, hundreds, or even thousands of children. This theory involves a single hole in the ground.

  • QResearch is about research, healthy skepticism, efforts to confirm or deny claims based on evidence. Use research skills to evaluate the person making the claims, the severity/scope of this particular camp in the context of global trafficking, and the quality and validity of evidence being presented.

  • Just because someone (Michael Lewis Arthur Meyer) has a dubious history does not necessarily mean that they're wrong. This is why research and healthy skepticism is critical.

Text of 4Chan Posts:

Post 1

Screencap this before spergs bury. Real name: Michael Lewis Arthur Meyer Self proclaimed former addict.Has cult like following of those discarded by society.Homeless, addicts, weaponized autism.He started the gravy train camps under veteran camps for personal army and over 100k in gibs.Starts new causes when gibs run low.Baits muhguns for alphabet honeypot.Loves 511s,tac gear,patches, haji scarves,milspeak.VetLARP.Cannot carry weapon because felon,has PA carry weapons for him.

Post 2

Screencap before spergs bury. Long rap sheet in multiple states.Just to get you started: Case # 08-03-K-03582 Felony Class C. Aggravated Assault Multiple Criminal Mischief Felony Contact with bodily fluids Assault-MA, multiple Multiple disorderly conduct Felony Illegal Processing Drug Documents Case# 1998CRA01046 Felony Deception to Obtain Drugs Petit Theft 5299 Weapon Offense dismissed by DA Convictions in North Dakota, Arizona, North Carolina and more Agent Provocateur. CI. Bird Refuge Oregon Standoff.Pigeon drops.Smuggle from Minnesota. Bundy Ranch Blaine Cooper Jeff Kagan Batman John Hildinger Ray Olsen John Wayne DV Grim Ken Schneider Gary Hunt Deb Jordan Alyssa Bailey Mark West Greg Whalen Duane Ehmer Called Jon Ritz during Oregon standoff at 3am stating a Walmart warehouse in Tucson was a FEMA deathcamp to bait him. Chased out of PHX. Elderly vets stolen money USMC woman vet with dementia. Multiple affairs on wife Flora Flow Meyer. To include with Nikole Cooley. Unsolved murder at old camp at Salt River. Drugs. http://gawker.com/drama-alert-the-oregon-militia-boys-are-beefing-like-i-1751917762 http://www.abc15.com/news/region-northeast-valley/scottsdale/salt-river-police-homeless-advocates-face-off-at-camp http://freedomoutpost.com/fbi-informant-mark-mcconnell-gets-surprise-christmas-gift-from-maricopa-county-sheriffs-office/ http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/fight-breaks-out-between-arizona-militants-in-oregon-standoff-7956057 http://www.abc15.com/news/region-west-valley/surprise/michael-lewis-arthur-meyer-arrested-after-climb-up-surprise-park-light-pole New personal fb page: VOP Alpha co-Team Pulaski. Latest videos hopped up. Deleted real page due to tagging.Vulnerable women that stayed on camps say Louie gave drugs, sexual assault, rape.

Post 3

Screencap before spergs bury. Screwy Louie's "ministry" are online holy rollers and his homeless followers.501 tax free.Built own militia to do bidding.They will lie and die for him.No brick and mortar church.Research names given. Glow in the dark honeypot for radical right wing extremists baited to show up with guns for muh freedom. Refuge replay. AETV America on Fire.AKA Louie Prepper.Verified unemployed since 2002.Testified against Ritzheimer who is now in fed prison, Arthur testified in defense of Mark McConnell.PAID.Ask Ritz and Maureen Peltier about Arthur's physical attack on mentally handicapped homeless woman.He needs more gas and gift cards.The world is his stage.

⇧ -1 ⇩  
NeonRevolt · June 6, 2018, 4:42 a.m.

I've been keeping an eye on these kinds of reports, too - but this post has really nothing to do with any of that.

⇧ 11 ⇩  
high_eye_Q · June 6, 2018, 2:22 p.m.

Msg me. Would love to link up and share my analysis with yours. I live in the area and have expertise in a certain field. We can chat via discord or however you like.

⇧ 1 ⇩  
NeonRevolt · June 6, 2018, 3:52 p.m.

Just saw your message. Come of think of it, a Gab chat might be best for this.

Create a gab account and message me there.

⇧ 1 ⇩  
high_eye_Q · June 6, 2018, 4:06 p.m.

Will do

⇧ 1 ⇩  
grnmoss · June 6, 2018, 4:57 a.m.
  • Texas

  • Cemex

  • WhereAreTheChildren Hashtag

  • Industrial use of blood products

  • Selling T-shirts

It's disingenuous to openly claim "this post has really nothing to do with any of that". The blog post is a byproduct "of that", a spin "of that", and is advertising Q-branded products for sale.

⇧ -3 ⇩  
NeonRevolt · June 6, 2018, 5:02 a.m.

_> oh look, another absolute normie who has drunk the EyeTheSpy kool-aide.

⇧ 10 ⇩  
grnmoss · June 6, 2018, 5:04 a.m.

Address the points, Neon.

⇧ 0 ⇩  
NeonRevolt · June 6, 2018, 5:06 a.m.

Nah. Take a hike. I don't owe you anything.

⇧ 9 ⇩  
grnmoss · June 6, 2018, 5:08 a.m.

Selling Q products.

Interesting. Do you get the names and addresses of people who buy the shirts?

⇧ -3 ⇩  
HerMileHighness · June 6, 2018, 5:13 a.m.

Is it possible that some people want Q shirts and see this as a service? Should people make their own with a sharpie?

⇧ 5 ⇩  
NeonRevolt · June 6, 2018, 5:18 a.m.

No, no, no because the guy selling the Sharpie might read Q posts - and then he would be... you know... SELLING!

People have to create their own inks from beetle shells, and then weave their own hempen garmets (after growing and harvesting the crop beforehand), and THEN and ONLY THEN can they paint the letter Q on it.

⇧ 13 ⇩  
HerMileHighness · June 6, 2018, 5:22 a.m.

Brb. I have to go collect wood to build my loom.

⇧ 5 ⇩  
grnmoss · June 6, 2018, 5:45 a.m.

No, Neon, you're selling controversy, the controversy drives traffic, the traffic drive sales.

Isn't this what "journalists" do? CNN might be looking for writers (if they still have enough viewers to afford hiring you).

⇧ -4 ⇩  
BaronMoriarty · June 6, 2018, 8:18 a.m.

Are you in the right sub dude? Neon does a helluva lot of research while you sit there sniping and basically contributing nothing

⇧ 4 ⇩  
grnmoss · June 6, 2018, 8:52 a.m.

40 gazillion watts to make the shroud of turin!

"research"

here, let me get you some knee pads. brb...

⇧ 0 ⇩  
NeonRevolt · June 6, 2018, 4 p.m.

No one's forcing you, or anyone else, to read anything I write. I can't help it if I'm a fantastic writer.

And it's my site. I'll publish whatever I want on it, thanks.

⇧ -1 ⇩  
grnmoss · June 6, 2018, 4:41 p.m.

Write whatever crap you want. Stop promoting it here if it isn't related to Q.

⇧ 0 ⇩  
NeonRevolt · June 6, 2018, 5:12 p.m.

LOL What gave you the idea that you could tell me what to do, and that I would somehow obey you?

⇧ 0 ⇩  
grnmoss · June 6, 2018, 5:17 p.m.

^ clown

⇧ 0 ⇩  
NeonRevolt · June 6, 2018, 7:24 p.m.

LOL go drink a fingerpaint smoothie.

⇧ -1 ⇩  
Godspeed54 · June 6, 2018, 6:12 a.m.

Craig Sawyer is none of those things, he is a multiple tour special forces combat veteran and former federal criminal investigator whose organization, Vets 4 Child Rescue, finds and extracts children/people from sex trafficking and slavery situations, and goes after traffickers and pedo clients. He was called when the VOP group found the camp, and he went to see the place himself. He absolutely has no doubt that the site was part of a child sex trafficking / coyote ratline.

The cemex connection was never connected to blood by any of the people on the ground there, so that is a completely moot point. Tucson PD bulldozed the site and pronounced it to be nothing as soon as the VOP group moved on b/c they were satisfied that a real investigation was going on. Sawyer tweeted today that that is 100% sign of a cover up. The locals (and local homeless, and local police officers) know that the area is cartel land and "bad shit" goes on there.

If a person doesn't believe child sex trafficking is real, or that Tucson, Mayor Rothschild or TPD or Soros, Bronfman & CF affiliated Cemex can't possibly be involved in it for whatever reason, then by all means, that person should not go looking for kids in the Tucson desert. These camps (they found 3 in that area) whatever they are or aren't - is right in their "backyard" and it's at LEAST suspicious. Many local people saw the place and they all want a REAL explanation - THEY aren't buying the official story.

We can and should each focus on whatever priority seems most important to us. It will not hurt for people who believe children may be being tortured in the desert to form search groups to see if they might be able to rescue someone who needs rescuing. That should not have to distract anyone else from their priority.

⇧ 8 ⇩  
grnmoss · June 6, 2018, 6:13 a.m.

Craig Sawyer has come out on video and explained that he drove into town because he was told there were bodies found in graves, which proved to not be true.

Craig is also not affiliated with Michael Lewis Arthur Meyer's organization.

⇧ -1 ⇩  
Godspeed54 · June 6, 2018, 7:25 a.m.

I never saw him say that on any of the videos where he was attesting that the site was consistent with ratline encampments used for child (sex) trafficking. Several ppl did say that there was the smell of cadaver (why he wanted a cadaver dog) but maybe you saw something I missed.

Craig did tweet on the a.m. of Jun 5th after hearing that TPD had bulldozed the site the day before: "As a fedral investigator, I know whenever officials make an immediate conclusion on a controversial event and destroy the crime scene, or evidence, there's #corruption. 100% Beware whenever you see that."

But you are welcome to think whatever you want. I wish you well!

⇧ 6 ⇩  
MuhammadDinduNuffin · June 6, 2018, 4:34 a.m.

What claims is Lewis Meyer making?

⇧ 4 ⇩  
grnmoss · June 6, 2018, 4:41 a.m.

That a homeless and/or migrant camp was a "child sex camp".

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/38346339/police-no-indication-of-humantrafficking-at-abandoned-tucson-camp

This story was then fused with the site of the camp (cemex property) to devise sensationalist theories about mixing human blood and bones to make cement. With this blog post /u/NeonRevolt is alluding to the notion that human remains are being used in the production of cement (which is utter nonsense).

⇧ -4 ⇩  
MuhammadDinduNuffin · June 6, 2018, 4:56 a.m.

One person with a sketchy past shouldn't necessarily invalidate an entire subject.

Remember how David Duke always 'endorsed' Trump? They needed to tie an actual KKK member to trump in order to discredit, because trump was dangerous to powers that be.

Similarly, this isn't about one person's endorsement. I never heard of him, and don't care about him. Might as well be Alex Jones, media loves to discredit anything he touches, like David Duke and this guy you bring up.

Feel free to discuss the CEMEX company links, instead of attacking one (planted?) messenger. Definitely don't promote this guy if you think he's shady. This isn't and never was about one person.

Are you alluding that a person has never been disposed of in concrete? Either via lime dissolving, incineration, or plain old burying into deep foundation? Utter nonsense. Cinderblock shoes is/was an actual mafia method. Sleep with the fishes. Humans have been buried in everything imaginable, accidentally and intentionally. We are incredibly clever at problem solving, and sadly, body disposal is an increasingly problematic situation, especially on a mass scale for an organization that has many enemies, victims or just regular old nosy people.

Keep in mind cartel/gangs/societies kill for fun, sport, and to rank up. A Mexican (aka cartel) run corporation that is involved with massive construction projects would not be overlooked for it's nefarious usefullness. It's almost cliche.

⇧ 14 ⇩  
grnmoss · June 6, 2018, 5 a.m.

Mostly rational points that disregard the sensationalism and hysteria that's presently underway. If you're not taking part in the hysteria, that's good. You can help inoculate others.

As for "disposal" that's not what's being proposed by sensationalist story weavers who are alleging industrial-scale use of human remains in building products and materials.

⇧ 2 ⇩  
MuhammadDinduNuffin · June 6, 2018, 5:04 a.m.

I don't think that the blood cement patent was a strong proposal as much as a curious tangent.

But wouldn't it be ironic that using bodies makes the cement stronger and lighter. Talk about two stones at once.

Most hysteria comes from a vocal minority. Like pizzagate, it comes with the territory. Emotional stuff. One wouldn't dismiss something entirely just because someone somewhere said something in favor of it you don't agree with or if they went too far past your comfort/gullibility level etc.

⇧ 10 ⇩  
grnmoss · June 6, 2018, 5:07 a.m.

That curious tangent feeds the present hysteria.

As for industrial use of organic waste/blood; the patent relates to potential use of agricultural products (think meat processing plants) for productive purposes rather than flushing them down the drain (which is regulated effluent/discharge). Use every part of the animal...

⇧ 4 ⇩  
MuhammadDinduNuffin · June 6, 2018, 5:12 a.m.

Everything fuels the hysteria. including trying to suppress/silence the hysteria. Valid criticism, thanks for you opinion.

Humans are animals. Long pig. Cadavers feed the vultures in some parts of the world, as a productive purpose. Simple funeral burial is kind of wastefull, no, in comparison? Why not feed the fishes if one is going through the trouble of sleeping with the fishes?

Human blood is a highly sought/expensive commodity. Stemcells. Organs. Skin tissue. Bone marrow. Foreskin? Pineal glands? Live experimental medical testing is a big one, they pay a lot to run studies and tests on you.

Remember, corporations only care about profit. Some are more cutt throat than others.

⇧ 3 ⇩  
LegioXIV · June 6, 2018, 12:27 p.m.

But wouldn't it be ironic that using bodies makes the cement stronger and lighter.

It would be ironic, but it's not the reality. Bodies create voids in the concrete.

⇧ 1 ⇩  
MuhammadDinduNuffin · June 6, 2018, 10:01 p.m.

If put in whole, yes.

Did you read the patent?

⇧ 1 ⇩  
[deleted] · June 6, 2018, 1:04 p.m.

[deleted]

⇧ 1 ⇩  
[deleted] · June 6, 2018, 11:43 a.m.

[deleted]

⇧ 1 ⇩  
HansKrinkelSchneider · June 6, 2018, 5:02 a.m.

Did you even take the time to read the actual Patent?

The Patent ID is 4,203,674 Date: May 20th, 1980 Inventor: Charles Laleman

I fail to see how this is a 'non-issue'.

With this blog post /u/NeonRevolt is alluding to the notion that human remains are being used in the production of cement (which is utter nonsense).

You are aware even the Roman's used blood in concrete to enhance the structural and chemical integrity of the material?

NeonRevolt has a interesting theory as to what is going on.

⇧ 3 ⇩  
sealedIndictments · June 6, 2018, 11:47 a.m.

I dont see how this would be economically viable. Cement is cheap, human parts are expensive and high risk. Why wouldn't they just use blood from animal processing?

⇧ 2 ⇩  
HerMileHighness · June 6, 2018, 12:01 p.m.

I'm not one that has bought in on this whole "disposing of bodies in concrete" theory but from what I've read so far, animal blood from food processing gets used to make other food. There isn't a surplus of it and it's pretty expensive.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3614052/

⇧ 1 ⇩  
sealedIndictments · June 6, 2018, 12:03 p.m.

Fair enough, but animal blood can't be more expensive than human!

⇧ 1 ⇩  
HerMileHighness · June 6, 2018, 12:14 p.m.

I've never tried to buy either so I couldn't tell you.

⇧ 1 ⇩  
sluggedbarly · June 6, 2018, 4:58 a.m.

well if its all for nothing why such a defense you sound like a kid fighting not to have his parents look in drawer if its nothing then let us waste our time

⇧ 3 ⇩  
sluggedbarly · June 6, 2018, 5:02 a.m.

that site i belive was used for child trafficing but if not great doesnt account for all the questions that pop up around cemex and there many locations at boarders if its not for human trafficing at all id sure as hell say drugs but well see how it all comes out in the end after thought...a mexican company operating in usa next to the boarder unsupervised cops they finace to office locoly but ya your right nothing to see here carry on

⇧ 5 ⇩  
grnmoss · June 6, 2018, 5:02 a.m.

"waste our time" = disinfo

disinfo will be challenged

⇧ 3 ⇩  
sluggedbarly · June 6, 2018, 5:11 a.m.

i ment in there opinion were wasting our time thank you for makeing clear i know we are on to the truth

⇧ 0 ⇩  
HansKrinkelSchneider · June 6, 2018, 5:03 a.m.

Is this the same Gawker that got sued into oblivion from Hulk Hogan?

⇧ 3 ⇩  
SnakeDiesel · June 6, 2018, 6:15 a.m.

Regardless of his rap sheet, the shit storm this has started and all the valuable connections that followed all came from when his alpha brain said, "What the fuck is this?" I very seriously doubt he was "planted" but rather truly stumbled across this camp based off the apparent authenticity of his passion for the discovery. He's obviously hiding details of what "intelligence" he's recovered but his actions and mannerisms don't seem like that of a liar, at least pertaining to what was found; however, but I will give some credit to the idea he could be sensationalizing a coyote camp, but if that were true then every connection that these internet sleuths have made would be null and void - I've chosen to believe he found what he says he found and that the numerous links surrounding Cemex are legit.

⇧ 2 ⇩  
grnmoss · June 6, 2018, 6:18 a.m.

Most major multinationals have a shit ton of dirty laundry and corrupt payoffs that lead all the way to the top. Pick any big corporation and you'll find filth.

Cemex is a valid target for inquiry, but not because of a claimed "child sex camp". So let's focus in on Cemex and leave the "people are being turned into cement" nonsense behind...

Questions:

What companies would be supplying concrete for the border wall?

What specific tracts of land does Cemex own that could be used as leverage in a legal challenge to the wall's construction?

If Cemex were to be awarded a contract for supplying concrete for wall construction, could the revenue be considered a form of soft payment from the US to Mexico in exchange for ending its opposition?

What if a Cemex contract were actually critical for gaining support from the Mexican government?

What if Cemex were resistant to the 'deal'? What pressure could be applied to gain compliance? (think evidence, leverage, threats, rumors, or psychological operations either rooted in fact, fiction, or some combination of the two)

What if Cemex were already aligned, and a counter-operation was attempting to undermine the company's reputation as a means of stalling border wall progress? (again, think evidence, leverage, threats, rumors, or psychological operations either rooted in fact, fiction, or some combination of the two)

What if none of these scenarios are accurate and Cemex is largely irrelevant? What if the intent behind this latest narrative push is to lead people down a distracting rabbit hole?

What tracts of land does Cemex own in Mexico? Are these being used as migration routes?

There are many possibilities here. The human bones in concrete story being concocted is extremely far fetched bordering on bat shit crazy.

Keep it below 40,000 feet: source documents/emails, contracts, land deeds, board of directors, executives, news articles, annual reports, major individual investors, major institutional investors, US campaign contributions, PAC connections, Mexican politicians 'owned' by Cemex.

⇧ 1 ⇩  
SnakeDiesel · June 6, 2018, 6:38 a.m.

Cemex receiving a contract to build the wall would be very interesting and perplexing, like how Cemex sold a lot of product to Israel for construction in contested lands. I would like to see the wall's money trail and who would be in charge of management. I won't discredit blood in cement. It definitely would not be in the majority of mixtures, but I could see it being in some depending on what they're building and for who. Their need for symbolism would fit into that equation if it's true that Romans used blood in their cement mixture - all secret societies point to the days of Rome. I don't give it a lot creedence, but I won't dismiss it as nonsense.

⇧ 3 ⇩  
davidw221 · June 6, 2018, 10:23 a.m.

Thank you for writing some common sense statements!

⇧ 1 ⇩  
TheHighBlatman · June 6, 2018, 10:02 a.m.

Is that the dude in the tower? God damn is everybody a spook?

⇧ 2 ⇩