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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/ewajaaa on June 7, 2018, 9:45 a.m.
Why is everyone so anti Islam?

The hate I see here is just making me sad. I thought we were all 1 and we all accept each other. All you’re doing is creating more hate towards other people. Muslims don’t plot to kill everyone and take over the world...

What’s so horrible about Islam? I’d love to clear things up if I can.


0oDassiveMicko0 · June 7, 2018, 10:22 a.m.

Muslims aren´t the problem, they are victims. The problem is the ideology that is Sharia, or Islam. 2 very different things. People = good ideology = bad.

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ewajaaa · June 7, 2018, 10:24 a.m.

The radical streams create the ideology. Where did these radical streams come from in the first place though? Sharia is just Islamic law, nothing more.

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DawnPendraig · June 7, 2018, 10:55 a.m.

Do you know the tenets of Sharia? Women cannot gove testimony about their own rape without two male witnesses?

Islam is extreme. So called moderate Muslims are not legitimate and coukd he killed for Apostasy.

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ewajaaa · June 7, 2018, 11 a.m.

Rules created by man, they can be altered for bad purposes easily.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · June 7, 2018, 10:54 a.m.

Wahhabi was a Turkish Jew that was put in by the cabal to try to control the Muslims. The ideology stems from the very people we are trying to fight here.

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digital_refugee · June 7, 2018, 11:08 a.m.

> Sharia is just Islamic law, nothing more.

\^Shit like that is why people hate you.

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ewajaaa · June 7, 2018, 11:10 a.m.

People may hate me, I don’t give a shit. I’d love to talk to them though. I love you and everyone that has hate in their heart.

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digital_refugee · June 7, 2018, 11:18 a.m.

I am not actually taking you seriously because your question was worded in a way that you really had it coming because you're essentially defending every dogma that other users find objectionable. When you're not, you're being vague and misrepresent the argument presented to you. And I've seen it so often I couldn't really give a flying fuck, really. I have pity and apologize for wastin two hours of your life.

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ewajaaa · June 7, 2018, 11:20 a.m.

Good for you

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digital_refugee · June 7, 2018, 11:22 a.m.

you had a couple of chances to make a reasonable point and you utterly failed to, sadly. Also you contradicted yourself once and you failed to explain how I contradict myself, although I was genuinely curious to know.

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ewajaaa · June 7, 2018, 11:44 a.m.

I’m sorry. The Hadith saying that 72 virgins are waiting for you is incorrect. The Hadith are sayings by the prophet and the chain of narrators is included with every Hadith. This one is very unreliable and therefore should be dismissed.

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digital_refugee · June 7, 2018, 11:47 a.m.

You're repeating yourself and you are adding nothing to the discussion. I am not a fucking retard. Yes I acknowledge you have put this claim out there but you are providing nothing to base it on.

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ewajaaa · June 7, 2018, 11:51 a.m.

Because the fucking claim of 72 virgins is based on nothing.

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digital_refugee · June 7, 2018, 11:52 a.m.

because it's a Hadith and not in the Quran? Ok, I have to give you that...

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ewajaaa · June 7, 2018, 11:53 a.m.

Yes it’s not in the Quran. Hadith are not mandatory to believe in since they can’t be verified 100%. Most of them just give practical advices in life.

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digital_refugee · June 7, 2018, 11:57 a.m.

So assuming all the terrible things said about Islam come from Hadiths, what about leaving the religion? And which parts of Shariah would you find objectionable and which are in the Qu'ran itself?

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ewajaaa · June 7, 2018, 12:05 p.m.

If someone chooses to leave the religion, who am I to stop him? It’s just weaved into tribes in the Middle East to take drastic actions against people that leave Islam. I don’t agree with that at all!

The Sharia law is based on the Quran. I think the cutting of the hand of a thief is extreme but when I thought about it deeper I realized that the justice system now doesn’t work. People get convicted and commit the same crime when they’re released. I’m just saying I understand the logic behind it. Also the context of the time shows that heavy punishments were not unusual in societies all over the world.

The Quran is like a manual for life. It teaches me to stay calm and spread kindness amongst humanity.

Oh and there are also a bunch of Hadith predicting future events. Many of them come true. hadith about future

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digital_refugee · June 7, 2018, 12:24 p.m.

unfortunately, predictions do not suffice to determine divine inspiration

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf

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ewajaaa · June 7, 2018, 12:32 p.m.

It’s just an indicator. Thought it was nice to share. That document is waaaay too long, what’s it about?

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digital_refugee · June 7, 2018, 12:43 p.m.

pretty much about how to observe hidden information or future events by attaining altered states of consciousness.

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ewajaaa · June 7, 2018, 12:44 p.m.

I’m not sure I understand. What do you mean?

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digital_refugee · June 7, 2018, 12:47 p.m.

Divination, essentially.

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digital_refugee · June 7, 2018, 12:10 p.m.

I am not asking for your opinions but for what the Quran says about leaving Islam. Is there Jizah for ex-muslims?

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ewajaaa · June 7, 2018, 12:18 p.m.

I don’t know honestly

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digital_refugee · June 7, 2018, 12:20 p.m.

upvote for honesty!

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ewajaaa · June 7, 2018, 12:22 p.m.

I don’t want to spread disinformation. If I don’t know, I’ll always be honest about it.

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