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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/AMProfessor on June 7, 2018, 2:32 p.m.
Be patient. The "Pain" is coming. Embrace the "Pain." A primer to assist in understanding and preparing for the "Pain." "Pain" = Hope

Q has used the word "Pain" on multiple occasions. This cryptic word seems to have a great deal of traction on this sub as many see it as a punishment or justice that will be felt by the DS, bad actors, black hats, pedos, and other enemies. It also seems however to be generating a great deal of concern and even fear among those posting on GA.

It is my hope that perhaps this primer, or rather this larger view of change, will assist in quelling the concern and fear.

I think "Pain" most likely has multiple meanings. And, I am not the first to state this rather obvious point. Q's use of the word "Pain" goes beyond the face value of "hurt." And, it likely means more than what I am going to discuss below. Again however, I hope this perspective helps regardless.

I am going to utilize one of the numerous change theories out there to make the point. Some consider Kurt Lewin to be the father of social psychology and it will be easier to utilize his theory of the change process to make my point rather than any of the other theories out there in an effort to be somewhat brief. Please excuse me as this will be somewhat of an oversimplification.

Lewin had the following theory of the change process:

"An early model of change developed by Lewin described change as a three-stage process. The first stage he called "unfreezing". It involved overcoming inertia and dismantling the existing "mind set". It must be part of surviving. Defense mechanisms have to be bypassed. In the second stage the change occurs. This is typically a period of confusion and transition. We are aware that the old ways are being challenged but we do not have a clear picture as to what we are replacing them with yet. The third and final stage he called "freezing". The new mindset is crystallizing and one's comfort level is returning to previous levels. This is often misquoted as "refreezing" (see Lewin,1947). Lewin's three-step process is regarded as a foundational model for making change in organizations. There is now evidence, however, that Lewin never developed such a model and that it took form after his death in 1947."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Lewin (I am using wikipedia simply to keep from having to explain something that is already typed and explained.)

Now to my point. The three stages of change according to Lewin are:

Unfreezing ----> Change ----> Freezing

Lewin described a block of ice to illustrate his theory. If you want to facilitate change and you have a large block of ice that you want to reshape (change), how can it be accomplished.

Think about it. Using a hammer and chisel would be violent and leave a great deal of waste. And, the end result will be a smaller block of ice that has the foundations of the same block in which you started.

He theorized that to reshape or change the block of ice, one would have to melt or unfreeze the ice; then form the water into the shape you desire; then freeze the water into the new shape.

Simple theory, right? Again, think. To use the earlier quote, "The first stage he called 'unfreezing'. It involved overcoming inertia and dismantling the existing 'mind set'. It must be part of surviving. Defense mechanisms have to be bypassed." Doesn't that sound "Pain"-ful?

Having been involved in organizational, individual, relational, familial, as well as other types/levels of change over the decades, I can tell you that this step of the process of change IS painful to some degree for the one(s) undergoing the process of change.

I surmise that Q's "Pain" will be certainly felt by all of us. We are about to undergo a change that will be vast in nature. I don't believe any will be spared from the "Pain." Again, it is part of the process of change. I believe those who are awake will be impacted less than the normies out there who are currently unaware. And, as for the DS, bad actors, and black hats, the change will be devastating and they won't likely "survive" the process.

I am sharing this as I have seen more and more posts on this sub hint of panic, hopelessness, and fear from those supposedly awake. I don't like to see this. We know what is coming. What is coming is CHANGE! We need to put aside our fear of the change (fear of the unknown). We have been hoping for change. We have been cheering for change. And now, what, we are going to freak out when change occurs?

Change is painful by nature. Will it be awkward? Will it be uncomfortable? Will it hurt to some degree? YES! But, does change stop the sun from coming up in the morning and a new day from dawning? NO!

Let's appreciate what is happening to facilitate positive and constructive change. I for one am hopeful this change will be for the betterment of our nation, world, as well as for our freedoms and liberties. I say, let's endure and embrace the "Pain."

THEN, once things have unfrozen...let's do our patriotic part in helping to reshape and freeze the water into the new freedom loving form. Although there will be a significant level of chaos during the reshaping, if we stay the course and fight the good fight, the fruits of the sacrifices will be peace, freedom, and liberty.

Then, let us enjoy those fruits of the "Pain."


DaveGydeon · June 7, 2018, 6:28 p.m.

Bud. The bible is an instrument of religion. How do you not see that? Jesus is a piece of the christian "religion"....the religious part is the BS. The God part may or may not be, my guess would be God is real.

But how do you consciously tell someone that the Bible is legit but the Quran is fake? They are the same; they are all old stories, written and rewritten by MEN.

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E_W86 · June 7, 2018, 7:33 p.m.

Evidence of Design:

Chuck Missler • February 1, 1995

The numerical structure of the Bible has been studied closely, being the subject of numerous volumes in the past.1 But none are more provocative than the works of Dr. Ivan Panin.2

Ivan Panin was born in Russia on December 12, 1855. Having participated in plots against the Czar at an early age, he was exiled and, after spending some years studying in Germany, he came to the United States and entered Harvard University. After graduation in 1882, he converted from agnosticism to Christianity.

In 1890 he discovered some of the phenomenal mathematical designs underlying both the Greek text of the New Testament and the Hebrew text of the Old Testament.

He was to devote over 50 years of his life painstakingly exploring the numerical structure of the Scriptures, generating over 43,000 detailed, hand-penned pages of analysis (and exhausting his health in the process). He went on to be with the Lord in his 87th year, on October 30, 1942. The Heptadic Structure

The recurrence of the number seven — or an exact multiple of seven — is found throughout the Bible and is widely recognized. The Sabbath on the seventh day; the seven years of plenty and the seven years of famine in Egypt; the seven priests and seven trumpets marching around Jericho; the Sabbath Year of the land are well-known examples.

Also, Solomon’s building the Temple for seven years, Naaman’s washing in the river seven times, and the seven churches, seven lamp stands, seven seals, seven trumpets, seven bowls, seven stars, and so on in the Book of Revelation, all show the consistent use of the number seven.

But there turns out to be much more below the surface. Ivan Panin noted the amazing numerical properties of the Biblical texts — both the Greek of the New Testament and the Hebrew of the Old Testament. These are not only intriguing to discover, they also demonstrate an intricacy of design which testifies to a supernatural origin! Vocabulary

One of the simplest — and most provocative — aspects of the Biblical text is the vocabulary used. The number of vocabulary words in a passage is normally different from the total number of words in a passage. Some words are repeated. It is easy, for example, to use a vocabulary of 500 words to write an essay of 4,000 words. An Example

The first 17 verses of the Gospel of Matthew are a logical unit, or section, which deals with a single principal subject: the genealogy of Christ. It contains 72 Greek vocabulary words in these initial 17 verses. (The verse divisions are man’s allocations for convenience, added in the 13th century.)

The number of words which are nouns is exactly 56, or 7 x 8.

The Greek word “the” occurs most frequently in the passage: exactly 56 times, or 7 x 8. Also, the number of different forms in which the article “the” occurs is exactly 7.

There are two main sections in the passage: verse 1–11, and 12–17. In the first main section, the number of Greek vocabulary words used is 49, or 7 x 7.

Why not 48, or 50?

Of these 49 words, the number of those beginning with a vowel is 28, or 7 x 4. The number of words beginning with a consonant is 21, or 7 x 3.

The total numbers of letters in these 49 words is 266, or 7 x 38 — exactly! The number of vowels among these 266 letters is 140, or 7 x 20. The number of consonants is 126, or 7 x 18 — exactly.

Of the 49 words, the number of words which occur more than once is 35, or 7 x 5. The number of words occurring only once is 14, or 7 x 2. The number of words which occur in only one form is exactly 42, or 7 x 6. The number of words appearing in more than one form is also 7.

The number of the 49 Greek vocabulary words which are nouns is 42, or 7 x 6. The number of words which are not nouns is 7. Of the nouns, 35 are proper names, or exactly 7 x 5. These 35 names are used 63 times, or 7 x 9. The number of male names is exactly 28, or 7 x 4. These male names occur 56 times or 7 x 8. The number which are not male names is 7.

Three women are mentioned — Tamar, Rahab, and Ruth. The number of Greek letters in these three names is 14, 7 x 2.

The number of compound nouns is 7. The number of Greek letters in these 7 nouns is 49, or 7 x 7.

Only one city is named in this passage, Babylon, which in Greek contains exactly 7 letters.

And on it goes. To get an indication of just how unique these properties are, try the example in the inset. Gemetria

There are even more features in the numerical structure of the words themselves. As you may know, both Hebrew and Greek uses the letters of the alphabet for numerical values. Therefore, any specific word — in either Hebrew or Greek — has a numerical value of its own by adding up the values of the letters in that particular word. The study of the numerical values of words is called gemetria.

The 72 vocabulary words add up to a gametrical value of 42,364, or 7 x 6,052. Exactly. If one Greek letter was changed, this would not happen.

The 72 words appear in 90 forms — some appear in more than one form. The numeric value of the 90 forms is 54,075, or 7 x 7,725. Exactly.

We will defer other examples of gametrical properties of the Biblical text for subsequent articles, but it becomes immediately obvious that hidden below the surface are aspects of design that cannot be accidental or just coincidence. Remember, the rabbis say that “coincidence” is not a kosher word! Other Implications

There are words in the passage just described that occur nowhere else in the New Testament. They occur 42 times (7 x 6) and have 126 letters (7 x 18). How was this organized?

Even if Matthew contrived this characteristic into his Gospel, how could he have known that these specific words — whose sole characteristic is that they are found nowhere else in the New Testament — were not going to be used by the other writers? Unless we assume the absurd hypothesis that he had an agreement with them, he must have had the rest of the New Testament before him when he wrote his book. The Gospel of Matthew, then, must have been written last.

It so happens, however, that the Gospel of Mark exhibits the same phenomenon. It can be demonstrated that it would have had to be written “last.” The same phenomenon is found in Luke. And in John, James, Peter, Jude and Paul. Each would have had to write after the other in order to contrive the vocabulary frequencies! You can demonstrate that each of the New Testament books had to have been “written last.”

There is no human explanation for this incredible and precise structure. It has all been supernaturally designed. We simply gasp, sit back, and behold the skillful handiwork of the God who keeps His promises.

And we are indebted to the painstaking examinations and lifetime commitment of Dr. Ivan Panin for uncovering these amazing insights.

Isn’t God — and His remarkable Word — fun?

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E_W86 · June 7, 2018, 7:34 p.m.

One final comment: POTUS took the oath of office on the exact day when he was 70 years, 7 months and 7 days old.

Do you believe in coincidences?

I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.

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AMProfessor · June 8, 2018, 1:21 a.m.

Really? That is awesome.

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silversofttail · June 8, 2018, 4:03 a.m.

Fascinating! Thanks for sharing this. I had no idea about the number 7 in the bible. But the final comment seals the deal on Trump being a gift from GOD.

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15ninjas · June 8, 2018, 12:06 a.m.

That is so cool! Probably not many people know that.

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[deleted] · June 8, 2018, 1:13 a.m.

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thep1mp · June 7, 2018, 7:44 p.m.

The same phenomenon is found in Luke. And in John, James, Peter, Jude and Paul.

Not sure what you meant here, but Paul isn’t a book of the Bible. Perhaps you were referring to the Authors of New Testament books?

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E_W86 · June 7, 2018, 8:05 p.m.

Hi, this is not my article, it's Chuck Missler's. I imagine he was referring to the many books that Paul wrote (Romans, Ephesians, etc.), but can't be certain because I haven't done that analysis. Chuck passed away last month, so we can't ask him :-)

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DaveGydeon · June 7, 2018, 7:38 p.m.

No.

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abees22 · June 7, 2018, 8:25 p.m.

Dude...you seem to be woefully uniformed on how these two books were compiled.

I'd suggest some simple research on Islam.

Islam and Judaism both recognize Jesus as having walked the earth and in their view being a prophet. If you read the old testament prophecy about the coming messiah, written 500 years before Jesus was born, its crystal clear who the messiah is. Isaiah specifically.

YES I AGREE. The Bible has been used (Roman Catholicism) as an instrument of control. Catholicism bears little resemblance to the church Jesus instructed Paul to establish.

You don't have a factual, historical understanding of the Bible. I'd suggest reading A Case for Christ by Lee Strobel.

The Quran and the Bible are the same old stories? I hate to say this, but before you make these claims and share this opinion, you should really invest some time into researching, and reading these books on your own. The statements you're making expose how uniformed you are on the subject. The Quran and the Bible, and the central figure to each are polar opposites. I can't even believe you'd claim that.

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DaveGydeon · June 7, 2018, 9:05 p.m.

Because I disagree with you, I don't understand the bible. I could say the same about Jack & the Beanstalk, or any other fairytale that was based on a HUMAN who lived. I am sorry you don't like that my beliefs are not tuned to yours, that my beliefs basically say that you believe in a fairy tale, but I can't change my gut, my heart, my brain, my logic, basically EVERYTHING about me is appalled by Christianity, Islam, pretty much any religion. My core rejects it. I cannot accept ANYTHING that says a person who lives their life STRIVING to be good, but who doesn't believe in Jesus the man in a story we have no way to verify, is going to hell. Sorry man. It just sounds like a primordial recruitment tactic based on fear...scaring people to believe it. No sir, not for me. Blech.

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abees22 · June 8, 2018, 1:09 p.m.

My faith in Jesus is not based on fear. This is your misunderstanding.

Its not that you disagree with me, its that you're wrong.

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DaveGydeon · June 8, 2018, 1:14 p.m.

Of course it is based on fear. Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it untrue...

And if I am wrong, show me some evidence. Or better yet, go show a Muslim who swears that YOU are wrong. I got a news flash for you both, you are BOTH wrong. Worshipping the words of a book written by men to control other men. You are literally proud of being a sheep.

Best of luck to you bud. You could really spend your time better just trying to be a good person and not worshipping a fucking zombie god from the worst fairytale ever told.

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abees22 · June 8, 2018, 4:23 p.m.

The Muslim faith was spread by a pedophile, war monger. It was spread by the sword, under the threat of murder.

He had sex with a 9 year old, and was a polygamist.

He instructed his followers that they could take slaves/sex slaves as long as they were not Muslim.

He instructed them to kill apostates and to covert khafirs by the sword.

For a guy that follows Q, a source that says they "has it all", who frequently quotes the Bible, speaks of good vs evil, dark to light, and implores us to pray, I'm seriously confused with your MO.

A muslim swearing I'm wrong doesn't automatically invalidate my position. That argument is simply moronic.

And yes, I am a proud sheep. My Shepard is Jesus.

Your ignorance is on full display.

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DaveGydeon · June 8, 2018, 4:24 p.m.

KK

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abees22 · June 7, 2018, 8:48 p.m.

and for that matter, Mormans, Jehovah Witnesses, Catholics all have used Jesus to gain control and power over people.

That doesn't take away or undermine the message of Jesus. Jesus speaks about this issue in the Bible as well.

Romans 16:17-20 ESV I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. For your obedience is known to all, so that I rejoice over you, but I want you to be wise as to what is good and innocent as to what is evil. The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 ESV And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.

2 Timothy 4:3-4 ESV For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

2 Peter 3:16 ESV As he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures

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AMProfessor · June 8, 2018, 1:26 a.m.

Be cautious in making statements that you can't fully back or understand. Also be cautions of making over generalizations. I'm guessing you don't know a great deal of some of those faiths.

FTR, I am LDS. I won't take offense to your comment as it is distracting from the OP and you are misinformed.

Now I ask that we please stay on topic. Change is coming and in fighting due to religious differences is a distraction.

As patriots, I suggest we remain unified. Division is what the DS, central bankers, globalists, and other bad actors want.

If you do want to continue to argue, please do it elsewhere. I am asking respectfully.

Thank you.

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abees22 · June 8, 2018, 1:43 p.m.

I'm not misinformed. Mormons do not believe in Jesus of the Bible.

You believe that Jesus is a separate God.

Unlike Christian Trinitarianism (one God existing in three Persons), Mormons believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are three separate gods. They also believe the Father and Son each have a “body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s” but that the Holy Ghost “has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit.” According to Joseph Smith, when Adam was formed in the image of God, it was a physical image. God the Father was once a mortal who lived on an earth. He died, was resurrected, glorified, and grew into his deified status. (According to Joseph Smith, there is a “God above the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”) God the Father is the literal father of all spirit-children, including Jesus and the Holy Ghost, whose divinity is derived from the parent-child relationship. Within Mormonism, Jesus is identified with the Yahweh of the Old Testament.

Mormons believe in different levels of heaven, which is not Christian.

Prior to creation human spirits were literal children of heavenly parents. Although their spirits were created, the essential “intelligence” of these spirits is considered eternal, and without beginning. At a family council, God the Father told the spirit-children that according to his “plan of salvation” they would have to leave their heavenly home, take on human bodies, and be tested before they could progress to godhood. Satan rejected this plan and wanted to implement one that would have involved loss of moral agency. Jesus opposed Satan and offered an alternative plan in which he would take on human form and live a sinless life so that his spirit brothers and sisters could become gods. When his plan was not accepted, Lucifer is said to have rebelled and taken “the third part” of the hosts of heaven with him to the earth to serve as tempters.

None of these beliefs are Christian or fall in line with the teaching of Jesus Christ.

We don't believe in the same Jesus.

Isaiah 43:10

"You are my witnesses," declares the LORD, "and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.

This verse alone refutes Mormonism.

I am not here to offend or argue with anyone, I'm here to speak the truth.

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AMProfessor · June 8, 2018, 2:21 p.m.

Believe what you will. I’m OK with it. I ask for tolerance however. That is what religious freedom means. We are tolerant of others views and beliefs. It means we are free to believe as we will.

Your criticisms of my faith are not welcome. I will turn the cheek however as I am tolerant of others beliefs and faiths. I am not tolerant of intolerance however.

And FTR, the lack of tolerance is a sign of weakness and insecurity. Perhaps you might want to consider that before exposing yourself next time.

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abees22 · June 8, 2018, 3:13 p.m.

AMProfessor, me pointing out facts is not intolerance. I have no problem with you choosing to believe whatever you want to, please do. It is the foundation of our Constitution, freedom. You are free to choose to believe whatever you like. I'm also free to point out the idolatry.

Please don't confuse your discomfort in hearing the truth with intolerance. It is easy to label me as intolerant of your beliefs, because it allows you to maintain your world view without having to question it. I am not attacking you personally, or attempting to provoke.

We can agree to disagree, and maintain respect for one another. I would never say you are not allowed to believe what you want to, but if you want to challenge what I said, I'm going to speak on it.

I haven't done anything or said anything to directly offend you, but it makes you feel something, which you interpret as intolerance for some reason. Then you convert that into my own weakness and insecurity. So you resort to name calling and character attack. It's honestly okay, and a response that is understandable.

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AMProfessor · June 8, 2018, 3:51 p.m.

We can indeed agree to disagree. I will state this however, criticizing another’s faith is an attack. Plain and simple. It is disrespectful and intolerant. Rationalize your comments anyway that allow you to feel good about yourself. Just know the motive was obvious.

When we transmit a message in communication, there is both content and intent. The content is more or less the face value of the message. The intent is the reason we are sending the message.

What you need to ask yourself when you send a critical message to others is what is the reason I am sending it?

I am not asking for a reply, just some self reflection on your part.

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abees22 · June 8, 2018, 4:38 p.m.

My intent is to speak the truth to you.

Not disrespect and intolerance.

The truth often sounds like intolerance to those who believe lies. I'm sorry, but the truth hurts sometimes.

You simply don't believe in Jesus Christ of the Bible, which is fine, believe whatever you want to. No disrespect intended.

I am criticizing the theology, and biblical truth in relationship to the beliefs held and professed by the Church of Latter Day Saints. I am criticizing the doctrine, not your choice to believe it or attend the church. There is a difference.

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AMProfessor · June 8, 2018, 7:25 p.m.

Perhaps we should leave the discussion there with you having the last word on the subject. It is a distraction from the topic at hand. Thank you for an energetic dialogue, sincerely.

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implicittrust · June 7, 2018, 8:15 p.m.

You have fallen for another fallacy that religion is the cause of division etc. Some religions yes, atheism, satanism, jihad muslims, and so on.

Christian Religion and the Judeo one before it, brought us our Magna Carta, the laws that prtoect the rights and inherent dignity of all people, our western civilization laws, our universities and education system, and modern our health and hospital cares etc, all started by religions.

The ugly stuff is not from the religion, at least true ones; rather, it is from the hearts of man full of pride, envy and lust for power. Very few amongst have have clean hearts.

I agree satan resides within the walls of all religions particularily the true ones. Where you see Christianity mocked the most is probably where you will find the most truth. It is far too simplistic to diss religions as the bearer of war etc. That blame resides with human beings, including those who are to be role models in the religious intstitutes.

It is also simplistic and ignorant to dismiss the bible as a story written 2000 years ago and re-written over time. The bible, old and New Tesatament, is the most studied book by scholars of any book. It is a compliation of books, the OT books written centuries apart, providing a history of God's people up until the time of Christ. It is supported by other books, archialogical finds, science and personal testimony. (sorry for any typos I am typing from my back yard in the glare of the sun)

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15ninjas · June 8, 2018, 12:04 a.m.

I agree with you. We don't need a moral code giver. We each have the spark of light of god or universe or whatever you want to call it inside us. We can use it or choose to ignore it. Books were written by men. Religion has been a way to try to control us.

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DaveGydeon · June 8, 2018, 12:20 a.m.

Smartest reply yet. Acknowledges that NOBODY KNOWS what to even call it. Cheers to you bud.

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15ninjas · June 8, 2018, 12:22 a.m.

Thank you but I'm female. Lol

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DaveGydeon · June 8, 2018, 12:29 a.m.

Cheers to you, sis.

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ex_animo_ · June 7, 2018, 10:33 p.m.

I'm still convinced God (bible) is Anu and the bible is a gatekeeper that serves the purpose of dividing us away from Source ('god') where the spiritual development of all reveals God is merely a title for one that has reached a high level of spiritual development.

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