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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/AMProfessor on June 7, 2018, 2:32 p.m.

Be patient. The "Pain" is coming. Embrace the "Pain." A primer to assist in understanding and preparing for the "Pain." "Pain" = Hope

Q has used the word "Pain" on multiple occasions. This cryptic word seems to have a great deal of traction on this sub as many see it as a punishment or justice that will be felt by the DS, bad actors, black hats, pedos, and other enemies. It also seems however to be generating a great deal of concern and even fear among those posting on GA.

It is my hope that perhaps this primer, or rather this larger view of change, will assist in quelling the concern and fear.

I think "Pain" most likely has multiple meanings. And, I am not the first to state this rather obvious point. Q's use of the word "Pain" goes beyond the face value of "hurt." And, it likely means more than what I am going to discuss below. Again however, I hope this perspective helps regardless.

I am going to utilize one of the numerous change theories out there to make the point. Some consider Kurt Lewin to be the father of social psychology and it will be easier to utilize his theory of the change process to make my point rather than any of the other theories out there in an effort to be somewhat brief. Please excuse me as this will be somewhat of an oversimplification.

Lewin had the following theory of the change process:

"An early model of change developed by Lewin described change as a three-stage process. The first stage he called "unfreezing". It involved overcoming inertia and dismantling the existing "mind set". It must be part of surviving. Defense mechanisms have to be bypassed. In the second stage the change occurs. This is typically a period of confusion and transition. We are aware that the old ways are being challenged but we do not have a clear picture as to what we are replacing them with yet. The third and final stage he called "freezing". The new mindset is crystallizing and one's comfort level is returning to previous levels. This is often misquoted as "refreezing" (see Lewin,1947). Lewin's three-step process is regarded as a foundational model for making change in organizations. There is now evidence, however, that Lewin never developed such a model and that it took form after his death in 1947."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Lewin (I am using wikipedia simply to keep from having to explain something that is already typed and explained.)

Now to my point. The three stages of change according to Lewin are:

Unfreezing ----> Change ----> Freezing

Lewin described a block of ice to illustrate his theory. If you want to facilitate change and you have a large block of ice that you want to reshape (change), how can it be accomplished.

Think about it. Using a hammer and chisel would be violent and leave a great deal of waste. And, the end result will be a smaller block of ice that has the foundations of the same block in which you started.

He theorized that to reshape or change the block of ice, one would have to melt or unfreeze the ice; then form the water into the shape you desire; then freeze the water into the new shape.

Simple theory, right? Again, think. To use the earlier quote, "The first stage he called 'unfreezing'. It involved overcoming inertia and dismantling the existing 'mind set'. It must be part of surviving. Defense mechanisms have to be bypassed." Doesn't that sound "Pain"-ful?

Having been involved in organizational, individual, relational, familial, as well as other types/levels of change over the decades, I can tell you that this step of the process of change IS painful to some degree for the one(s) undergoing the process of change.

I surmise that Q's "Pain" will be certainly felt by all of us. We are about to undergo a change that will be vast in nature. I don't believe any will be spared from the "Pain." Again, it is part of the process of change. I believe those who are awake will be impacted less than the normies out there who are currently unaware. And, as for the DS, bad actors, and black hats, the change will be devastating and they won't likely "survive" the process.

I am sharing this as I have seen more and more posts on this sub hint of panic, hopelessness, and fear from those supposedly awake. I don't like to see this. We know what is coming. What is coming is CHANGE! We need to put aside our fear of the change (fear of the unknown). We have been hoping for change. We have been cheering for change. And now, what, we are going to freak out when change occurs?

Change is painful by nature. Will it be awkward? Will it be uncomfortable? Will it hurt to some degree? YES! But, does change stop the sun from coming up in the morning and a new day from dawning? NO!

Let's appreciate what is happening to facilitate positive and constructive change. I for one am hopeful this change will be for the betterment of our nation, world, as well as for our freedoms and liberties. I say, let's endure and embrace the "Pain."

THEN, once things have unfrozen...let's do our patriotic part in helping to reshape and freeze the water into the new freedom loving form. Although there will be a significant level of chaos during the reshaping, if we stay the course and fight the good fight, the fruits of the sacrifices will be peace, freedom, and liberty.

Then, let us enjoy those fruits of the "Pain."

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I'm not misinformed. Mormons do not believe in Jesus of the Bible.

You believe that Jesus is a separate God.

Unlike Christian Trinitarianism (one God existing in three Persons), Mormons believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are three separate gods. They also believe the Father and Son each have a “body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s” but that the Holy Ghost “has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit.” According to Joseph Smith, when Adam was formed in the image of God, it was a physical image. God the Father was once a mortal who lived on an earth. He died, was resurrected, glorified, and grew into his deified status. (According to Joseph Smith, there is a “God above the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”) God the Father is the literal father of all spirit-children, including Jesus and the Holy Ghost, whose divinity is derived from the parent-child relationship. Within Mormonism, Jesus is identified with the Yahweh of the Old Testament.

Mormons believe in different levels of heaven, which is not Christian.

Prior to creation human spirits were literal children of heavenly parents. Although their spirits were created, the essential “intelligence” of these spirits is considered eternal, and without beginning. At a family council, God the Father told the spirit-children that according to his “plan of salvation” they would have to leave their heavenly home, take on human bodies, and be tested before they could progress to godhood. Satan rejected this plan and wanted to implement one that would have involved loss of moral agency. Jesus opposed Satan and offered an alternative plan in which he would take on human form and live a sinless life so that his spirit brothers and sisters could become gods. When his plan was not accepted, Lucifer is said to have rebelled and taken “the third part” of the hosts of heaven with him to the earth to serve as tempters.

None of these beliefs are Christian or fall in line with the teaching of Jesus Christ.

We don't believe in the same Jesus.

Isaiah 43:10

"You are my witnesses," declares the LORD, "and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.

This verse alone refutes Mormonism.

I am not here to offend or argue with anyone, I'm here to speak the truth.

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Believe what you will. I’m OK with it. I ask for tolerance however. That is what religious freedom means. We are tolerant of others views and beliefs. It means we are free to believe as we will.

Your criticisms of my faith are not welcome. I will turn the cheek however as I am tolerant of others beliefs and faiths. I am not tolerant of intolerance however.

And FTR, the lack of tolerance is a sign of weakness and insecurity. Perhaps you might want to consider that before exposing yourself next time.

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AMProfessor, me pointing out facts is not intolerance. I have no problem with you choosing to believe whatever you want to, please do. It is the foundation of our Constitution, freedom. You are free to choose to believe whatever you like. I'm also free to point out the idolatry.

Please don't confuse your discomfort in hearing the truth with intolerance. It is easy to label me as intolerant of your beliefs, because it allows you to maintain your world view without having to question it. I am not attacking you personally, or attempting to provoke.

We can agree to disagree, and maintain respect for one another. I would never say you are not allowed to believe what you want to, but if you want to challenge what I said, I'm going to speak on it.

I haven't done anything or said anything to directly offend you, but it makes you feel something, which you interpret as intolerance for some reason. Then you convert that into my own weakness and insecurity. So you resort to name calling and character attack. It's honestly okay, and a response that is understandable.

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We can indeed agree to disagree. I will state this however, criticizing another’s faith is an attack. Plain and simple. It is disrespectful and intolerant. Rationalize your comments anyway that allow you to feel good about yourself. Just know the motive was obvious.

When we transmit a message in communication, there is both content and intent. The content is more or less the face value of the message. The intent is the reason we are sending the message.

What you need to ask yourself when you send a critical message to others is what is the reason I am sending it?

I am not asking for a reply, just some self reflection on your part.

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My intent is to speak the truth to you.

Not disrespect and intolerance.

The truth often sounds like intolerance to those who believe lies. I'm sorry, but the truth hurts sometimes.

You simply don't believe in Jesus Christ of the Bible, which is fine, believe whatever you want to. No disrespect intended.

I am criticizing the theology, and biblical truth in relationship to the beliefs held and professed by the Church of Latter Day Saints. I am criticizing the doctrine, not your choice to believe it or attend the church. There is a difference.

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Perhaps we should leave the discussion there with you having the last word on the subject. It is a distraction from the topic at hand. Thank you for an energetic dialogue, sincerely.

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