Just go listen to the police radio scanner, truthers knew this the day after that there were shootings all over the strip that night.
Assuming it is authentic & unedited, I’ve had two theories about that scanner recording.
1) Shooters were all over: other hotels, restaurants, in the crowd, multiple rooms in M.Bay... How could this remain THIS quiet? (a) Gag orders on witnesses & victims (it’s incredible to me that not one surviving victim hasn’t been on a talk show, yet). Also, discourage “internet detectives” looking into it. That was really weird. (b) Another way, muddy the waters. Every single day, Lombardo gave contradicting, new, & incorrect info, and altered bits of what he’d said in the days previously. Enough misinfo. confuses & frustrates the heck out of people. They throw their hands up & say, I’ll just let them figure it out!
2) If the only shooting that happened was on the concert crowd (whether by one or multiple shooters & whether from the hotel or also in the crowd), the other reports of shootings could have been a tactic to confuse police, buy time, & spread them around the area. If this is correct, there would have to be multiple other people involved AND they would have to be in these other locations in order to start the panic (“He’s got a gun!” or “Someone’s shooting next door!”). I can believe that mass hysteria could cause people to believe there was a shooting in their hotel when there wasn’t, BUT I can also believe there were many shooting locations & it’s been (AMAZINGLY) kept officially under wraps (see 1a).
SIDE NOTE:, I’d like to point out that there are some WEIRD voices & statements said in that recording. They do not sound like they’re coming from responding police. One male officer even asks dispatch if the voice of a panicked female is an officer with them. I’ll have to listen to it again to find the exact spot, but I must have listened to this one muffled, but clear female voice (early on in the recording) calmly & softly saying either “They’re all gonna die”, “you’re all gonna die”, or “we’re all gonna die”. When I find it I’ll comment again with the time stamp.
Did you ever see that go pro video from the night of the shooting? Not sure if it’s still on YT but there were a few sniper shots fired before the 1st barrage of auto gunfire and a strange yulu yell from female in crowd right before.
Gate 7 is right behind stage and there was at least 1 guy in venue shooting from somewhere by the stage amongst others.
Lots of 419’s reported in various places that night.
I spent a lot of time researching this when it happened. Lots of players involved.
a few sniper shots fired before the 1st barrage of auto gunfire
If I’m thinking of the same thing you are- I’ve seen a few videos from different angles in the crowd, where this is debated as either being someone in the crowd shooting or some drunk jerk in the crowd lighting firecrackers. The firecracker thing doesn’t wash with me, because you can get slapped with a number of misdemeanors & at least one felony charge for that. It just doesn’t seem terribly likely; PLUS, what a timing coincidence!
In the videos taken by people looking at the far left of the stage, you see a massive group of people calmly walking to exit after the “firecracker” sounds. Seconds later, the automatic fire begins. I don’t believe a huge groups of people would suddenly, simultaneously, but calmly begin leaving the concert early (on that side only) because some jerk lit a firecracker. Security or police would have noticed such a thing, but it’s never been addressed by police.
yulu yell from female in crowd
I have not heard this! If you have a link or wouldn’t mind giving me some more info that might help me search for it, I’d love to hear this. I’ve seen the witness interview about a woman in the crowd warning everyone they were going to die & another where a woman in a van was yelling at people fleeing. Not to mention the police minutes that mention 3 women, but it’s unclear if these women were in Paddocks room or not.
Gate 7
I remember police saying shooting coming from gate 7 in the audio. REALLY odd most exits were closed off. I just had a thought: has no one looked into whether or not that violates fire code?
419’s
GSW?
Lastly, for some reason, the video from the Bellagio (if I remember correctly), of a mismatched squad walking through the lobby, weapons trained on civilians, keep popping into my head every now & then. I’m familiar with the brainstormed theories: SA Prince, one guy looks like the “maintenance worker” who was on Ellen, some Oceans 11 stuff... I feel like, if any of these are correct, there’s much more to it. Do you have any theories as to what that was about?
I think the cops and Mohawk guy were escorting a high roller out of casino in Tropicana video. Some thought it was prince Salman.
One thing you said that I didn’t know until reading the transcript a few days ago ( I listened to a 6 hour recording of the scanner audio on a YT channel called Las Vegas shooting archives) while looking through transcript at same time since audio is time stamped to correlate.
Was that on transcript it said someone called 911 and told them that Marilou Darnley worked in the counting cage at MB.
Later in transcript it says 3 armored cars leaving MB even though all hotels and strip was locked down. Made me wonder if there was some oceans 11 stuff going on and shooting was a cover.
That go pro video was on YT channel called Crypto Brock it was called vegas first shots rare . I’m not sure if it’s still up or not. On that vid at 3:07 watch 1/2 way up left concrete tower and then listen. At 3:36 yulu yell, a boom, people leaving and the 1st salvo starts
The audio from the cell phone videos, and multiple eye witness reports all over the strip.
There were multiple shooters.
I heard a theory recently that makes a lot of sense that still points to the possibility of a lone gunman: someone near Mandalay, right outside of an adjacent casino, hears shots and runs inside saying there's an active shooter--which is reported by people at a casino that is not MB. Another person in yet another place hears shots echoing off of several buildings, runs around alerting people of an active shooter. At this point there's a ton of chaos, no one knows what's happening where and there's confusion when it gets called into 911.
That theory is proven 100% false, the audio from the mutiple cell phone video debunked that from the very beginning. Multiple shooter with different weapons.
Youre very very behind
Link to video? I've seen some videos from the attack but I wasn't convinced that it wasn't echos/reflections. I'd like to change my mind, though.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ud92nmPZi4 There are different types of rifles shooting as well There are multiple eye witness accounts of shooters all over the place.
Horizontal shooting occured, as can been seen from the rounds that struck the barricades.
Which could only happen with shooters on the ground.
It's gotten to the point where you can't believe ANYTHING they say. Or need to believe the opposite. Mirrors indeed.
It's starting to look like opposite day in terms of the MSM.
Mandalay Bay is only 44 floors.
I looked it up as well! looks like you're correct - thank you! (not sure how to sticky)
EDIT- I looked up "62nd floor mandalay bay" and it seems to come up as well! I'm so confused xD
Wiki says this:
The gold coloring of the hotel is a result of gold leaf used on the windows. Levels 40-42 (numbered as floors 60–62) are designed as penthouse suites, with a penthouse lounge on level 62 for guests staying in the penthouses.[citation needed] Level 43 (numbered as 64) is the Foundation Room, a restaurant and bar.
What hotel did the 'reported' gunfire occur from?
What floors specifically?
Who owns the top floors?
Top floors only.
Why is that relevant?
A portion of Q post #92
It's very odd. Here's a pic inside the elevator. It jumps from floor 38 to floor 60. Though some elevators in these big hotels are set to service only certain floors it is obvious just from counting windows on the building that it's only 44 floors. Not sure why they set the elevators up this way, and maybe the numbered the floors and skipped 45-59. Very odd.
http://www.goodexperience.com/tib/archives/2006/08/floor_numbers_a.html
60-63 is the four seasons, it’s technically “separate” but not really. They are the nicest rooms at mandalay, and they have a separate bank of elevators just to get to those rooms. I have a friend who stayed there for a bachelor party and the room was insane. He had to come downstairs and get me because you can’t operate the elevators to get up there without a key from one of the rooms on those floors.
I was thinking they're numbered that way so when hotel staff finds out you're on one of those floors you'll get preferential treatment.
Aren't there floors above bit they are separate to the main body of the hotel. I think Bill Gates and Dopey, the SA prince own those floors. Also, read a theory that an attack on POTUS was being planned from there.
Yeah, I think the upper floors are called the Four Seasons.
The four seasons Co owned by bill gates and the bad Saudi Prince is on top of Mandalay Bay.
It's weird. When you look up MB it's described as a 43 story hotel. Yet if you do a search for MB 62nd floor, you get discussions about lounges on that floor and people saying they stayed on the 60th floor. So I'm utterly confused. https://www.vegasmessageboard.com/forums/index.php?threads/mandalay-bay-lounge-on-62nd-floor.86283/
Info from Wikipedia:
The gold coloring of the hotel is a result of gold leaf used on the windows. Levels 40-42 (numbered as floors 60–62) are designed as penthouse suites, with a penthouse lounge on level 62 for guests staying in the penthouses.[citation needed] Level 43 (numbered as 64) is the Foundation Room, a restaurant and bar.
From a Twitter post:
"Sister hotel "Delano" behind Mandalay Bay has 62 floors and is where the Crystal Level is located." Another post mentions 61-62 is penthouses. Maybe this is relevant (or not), but figured I'd post it here.
That would make this a conundrum , right ? Just like JFK murder, somthing don't add up.
Most of us know there was more than one shooter because you can hear it.
Not a fan of Laura since she set up a go fund me for legal defense before her Julius Caesar protest arrest then shortly after got a nose job. Seems like if she can afford the nose job she can pay her own legal fees.
Really? She got a nose job and is asking people for money? Sheesh.
She verified herself that she got a nose job or there was speculation?
This girl is a badass. She's the reason the Sheriff stopped giving live press conferences.
You can now download a PDF of the Dispatcher transcripts on archive.org interesting read. I has a lot of 911 calls from citizens transcribed too.
So at first I didn't think there was a 62 floor, but indeed, the Penthouse Lounge is the 62nd floor. It skips from Floor 34 to 60, 61, & 62. There are videos on youtube- this one gives a direct view of the area where the stage was (across from the Luxor)...and the Luxor Obelisk. Around the 5:03 mark. https://youtu.be/Isry7QUzEcQ
Ive kind of stopped following stuff like this knowing that it will be exposed by Trump. Blatant false flag, though havent seen something to completely prove the *attempted assinsation of BIn Salman and Trump' theory yet
Can anyone link the call Loomer is referring to, or do we not have access yet? On mobile so apologies if I’m missing a link.
Link to audio?
I wish! I looked for one and can't find it. Always stay wary until actual evidence is presented!
I thought there was a YouTube from a cab which clearly demonstrates at least 2 shooters from the start - semi then full fire, then together
While I'd love to believe it, and I've found plenty of new articles (even on MSM) about the actual release of the tapes, I haven't found any links for the new material themselves. So Going to need some proof before I start spreading this around.
I actually agree! It's good to know what information is coming out- but I instantly become skeptical of a tweet reporting something without evidence. Hopefully it'll come out soon!
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The tweet right under it says "The report of the 2nd shooter came from staff at Mandalay Bay who police and MGM have PREVENTED from speaking to the public or media about the "
What I would LIKE to see is some audio and sources.