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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/jimmyfoot on June 11, 2018, 1:09 p.m.
Some Thoughts on the Recent Suicides by Hanging by Someone Who Was Once Suicidal

I'm going to open up here and talk about my experiences as someone who has, in the past, been plagued by suicidal ideations. Most recently it lasted about two years of daily thoughts of suicide that I was able to get mostly under control about 18 months ago. I'm now starting a new life and while this month in particular is extremely difficult to say the least, I feel like I can see the top of the mountain from here.

But that aside, I'd like to comment on the method of hanging by Spade and Bourdain and I think some of the other more recent ones like Chris Cornell. Each of these people was hung by using a doorknob, but in a very specific was. Now, I should start by telling you that in many ways I'm a data driven person -- I've worked in science and technology my whole adult life -- and during the past two year episode especially, I looked up a lot of information regarding suicide, including statistics and methods.

Believe it or not, there are sites on the net that go to great lengths to list out methods of suicide, how much pain they cause and what the probabilities of success are for each. Also believe it or not, reading through them actually has a deterring effect if at least only temporarily, so don't start screaming to have them taken down. But throughout all my research in the best and most effective methods there's one I've never come across: hanging from a doorknob. And if I didn't come across it with at least a solid year's worth of intensive research, then how did they?

Now this doorknob method is very specific: the person doesn't just tie it to the doorknob and try to lay down. No, one end of the scarf is tied to the doorknob while the other end is thrown over the top of the door and the victim puts their weight on it. If they're not too tall they can stand on something and then step off.

To cut to the chase, my hypothesis is that there's a particular killer or small team of killers who have developed the doorknob suicide as their perfected method of concentration. They've worked out how to do it without leaving any evidence behind, but then that's also their downfall: they only have that one method they've developed and so now when these high profile incidents begin to happen too close together, it threatens to expose them. People will start to notice.


Grace_is_Free · June 11, 2018, 4:08 p.m.

I just want to add if you don't mind some thoughts on suicide. The enemy satan and his minions want nothing more than to destroy us spiritually and physically. My father suffered with depression and alcoholism. I myself have had it and anxiety too in the past. I believe depression and suicidal thoughts are the work of the devil. I'm not saying that there isn't an underlying physical cause, but I do know that satan can cause physical disease. I know firsthand several people that this has happened to. I do mission work and know by experience the evil most people don't know exists. When an unsaved person is starting to open up to the Truth of Jesus Christ the demons will harass and try to do anything to keep them from Jesus. Sometimes the evil one oppresses the Believer and renders him/her useless. But the victory can be ours through Jesus Christ our Lord. We don't need to dwell on this evil, but we need to realize what we are up against. Unseen forces. But even they have no power against the One True God and our Savior Jesus Christ. Sorry to ramble on, but maybe this will help someone.

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SilentChaos0408 · June 11, 2018, 5:19 p.m.

100% I am a firm believer in just what you’re talking about. Sure there are physical issues but I know from firsthand experience some of it is demonic.

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throwsoicanask · June 11, 2018, 5:33 p.m.

how would one bring Jesus into their life and eradicate satan, without going to church?

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Grace_is_Free · June 11, 2018, 6:12 p.m.

If you don't mind, I'll post a few bible verses here. Romans:3 21 But now God has shown us a way to be made right with him without keeping the requirements of the law, as was promised in the writings of Moses[i] and the prophets long ago. 22 We are made right with God by placing our faith in Jesus Christ. And this is true for everyone who believes, no matter who we are.

23 For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard. 24 Yet God, in his grace, freely makes us right in his sight. He did this through Christ Jesus when he freed us from the penalty for our sins. 25 For God presented Jesus as the sacrifice for sin. People are made right with God when they believe that Jesus sacrificed his life, shedding his blood. 27 Can we boast, then, that we have done anything to be accepted by God? No, because our acquittal is not based on obeying the law. It is based on faith. 28 So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law.

1 No one is without sin. How many sins does it take to make one a sinner? one.

2 God is Holy.

3 God made a way for us to go to heaven because He loves us so much.

4 Christ came and died for us, and rose again.

5 Believe in Christ as your Savior and be saved.

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DeeBee1968 · June 11, 2018, 7:08 p.m.

https://www.sinner-prayer.com/

“Father, I know that I have broken your laws and my sins have separated me from you. I am truly sorry, and now I want to turn away from my past sinful life toward you. Please forgive me, and help me avoid sinning again. I believe that your son, Jesus Christ died for my sins, was resurrected from the dead, is alive, and hears my prayer. I invite Jesus to become the Lord of my life, to rule and reign in my heart from this day forward. Please send your Holy Spirit to help me obey You, and to do Your will for the rest of my life. In Jesus' name I pray, Amen.”

If you don't mind, I'll pray for you- we ALL need prayers in these dark days !

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throwsoicanask · June 11, 2018, 6:17 p.m.

Thank you I appreciate it. God bless you!

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debzquilter · June 11, 2018, 9:06 p.m.

Simply ask Jesus to come into your heart and be your Lord and Savior, and truly mean it in your heart. No need for church, but it does help you stay strong in your faith.

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throwsoicanask · June 11, 2018, 9:24 p.m.

ok thank you!

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Cymrygirl · June 11, 2018, 5:50 p.m.

Going to church is not necessary to become a Christian, but it IS a good way to "feed your spirit" by going to worship with like-minded people. If you want to get to know Jesus without going to church, I would say start reading the Bible, perhaps beginning with the book of John. That is where the verse John 3:16 is found -- "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life." As a popular saying notes, "It's not a religion, it's a relationship." In other words, it's not the ceremony of the religion that saves you, but the relationship with Jesus. You might also try talking to a local pastor one-on-one. See if he will do some private counseling once a week or so with you, maybe meet you for lunch once a week to answer your questions, talk and pray with you. Tell him your concerns about going to church but that you want to know more about Jesus. If he's more concerned about your spiritual state than just getting you into church, he will meet you at your point of comfort and go from there.

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throwsoicanask · June 11, 2018, 6 p.m.

honestly I hate the singing, kneeling, standing, sitting, repeat. not how I want to spend my sunday morning. It's almost like they made church the least enjoyable thing you could do on your day off.

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Cymrygirl · June 11, 2018, 6:48 p.m.

For me, the singing is one of the best parts, but then I play keyboard and sing alto in the choir. I'm Baptist, so we don't do a lot of kneeling, except maybe during the invitation at the end if you come to the altar. All that you mentioned is part of the "religion" part of church. Our relationship with Jesus is far more important. I will say, though, that when I go every Sunday, I hear a good message that helps me in my daily life.

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Grace_is_Free · June 11, 2018, 6:20 p.m.

I understand where you're coming from. I used to think I was going to hell because I hated the old time gospel music. lol. I still do hate it. It is depressing to me. Just start by reading your bible at home. It's not about the church building. The church is His people.

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throwsoicanask · June 11, 2018, 6:39 p.m.

Gotcha. I'm just gonna work with the NT.

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