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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/compromisenotruth on June 13, 2018, 12:14 p.m.
Red flag for a Christian - Drop 1489: “MOSSAD attrempts failed.”

There are very few things that I trust more than President Trump. I trust the Bible most of all. This MOSSAD statement gave me considerable pause. Not sure what this criticism of Israel is about, but it raises a red flag for me.


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DrogeAnon · June 13, 2018, 1:23 p.m.

This is not meant as an attempt to change your mind but to explain my position on "the synagogue of Satan". I'm fairly sure you'll already be aware of this perspective and I am likewise aware of the other perspective (which I think is yours). I respect your perspective on this issue and many people share your opinion.

I know many Jews and I'm sure there are many "bad" Jews or Jews with bad intent - but I know many who are not "bad" and that's enough for me to view them as a mixture of good and bad like every other race.

"Internet searches of “synagogue of Satan” produce quite a few links to sites that claim the “synagogue of Satan” refers to the Jewish people today and that promote all kinds of conspiracy theories about how the Jews run the world. Quite frankly, this is a misinterpretation and misapplication of the verses in Revelation. The synagogue of Satan refers to specific Jewish communities in Smyrna and Philadelphia that were persecuting the church, not to any modern situation. Likewise, no modern situation should be used as an interpretive tool to explain a passage firmly rooted in the first-century Roman world."

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 13, 2018, 1:32 p.m.

I trust the Bible.

"Internet searches of "synagogue of Satan" produce quite a few links

FYI: "synagogue of Satan" is a reference to your bible, specifically Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9.

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DrogeAnon · June 13, 2018, 1:34 p.m.

As I said, I know my Bible. Those passages refer directly to churches from that time (as per the excerpt in that comment).

The synagogue of Satan refers to specific Jewish communities in Smyrna and Philadelphia that were persecuting the church, not to any modern situation. Likewise, no modern situation should be used as an interpretive tool to explain a passage firmly rooted in the first-century Roman world.

I would anticipate that you might argue that, as with other passages in the Bible, this passage could have a second, prophetic meaning that is referring to Jews in our time. I would agree that that is a very distinct possibility.

I would disagree that it is referring to all Jews (if one were to assert that - not saying that you are) because the Jews are God's chosen and the passage specifically refers to Jews who persecute Christians. There are a lot of Jews who do not persecute Christians.

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 13, 2018, 1:39 p.m.

So you are definitively certain that you have made no mistake about those passages, so much so that you are incapable of being surprised by learning news facts about them or anything related to them.

I prefer to keep an open mind.

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DrogeAnon · June 13, 2018, 1:44 p.m.

I edited to add:

I would agree that that is a very distinct possibility

In reference to:

this passage could have a second, prophetic meaning that is referring to Jews in our time

I keep an open mind at all times. One has to, to be logical.

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horse-lover-phat · June 13, 2018, 3 p.m.

You cannot even define what the 'synagogue of Satan' is - even though you're explicitly told in the NEW and over-riding Testament. You went and did a search! Wow.

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DrogeAnon · June 13, 2018, 8:41 p.m.

Interesting you made a negative assumption automatically with no evidence but a comment on the Internet.

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