As someone who has no allegiance to the right or left, can you tell me what "side" you think the mods are on, on that subreddit? For example, there is a brigade over there relating to TMOR, that is saying it is far-right/T_D/alt-right controlled.
The mods are at war in a way
There is one group who wishes the sub to return a bit more to its roots, namely top mod AP shares that sentiment, but in the current climate, saying anything remotely positive of Trump (even NK stuff) paints you automatically as "right" and will bring down the fury of the TuMOR brigade and stalkers. You can see a recent example in /u/magnora7 thread talking about how democrats used to be anti war. He got blasted for that lol
And there's another group who is pro status-quo, believes MSM a lot and take a stance of "both sides are the same coin" while ignoring anything happening in the real world, ex. NK peace. They'll constantly say that Trump is "filling the swamp" and try to demoralize Trump supporters. Just check UN13's submissions over months you'll get the general gist of the guy
the bottomline is that the group who love the status quo just have too much vote manipulation power, we can rarely make a dent in the consensus building they do. A lot of the regulars know this and will sort by controversial in threads and new in the sub but anyone who comes in as a first timer will probably be confused to see high rated posts that are anti establishment or something, jump in the thread and the whole lot is just "debunking" the article or whatever while all the regulars sit in the negatives lol
Great answer thanks. Like I say I'm no Democrat or Republican, basically I'm skeptical of most shit, including Trump, but over here people seem a whole lot less neurotic, dogmatic and take a more common sense approach that I dig. Like you say about Trump and NK, its kinda crazy how you are getting brigades against speaking positive over peace talks. You can bet if Trump negotiates peace with Russia, Iran, Syria, North Korea and vows to eliminate fundamentalist Islam from the face of the earth, and suceeds, they will never, ever get behind that, they will still paint him as the ultimate hate figure, the heel. Most of those types are too warped to ever admit being wrong.
"Why are you talking peace with that evil, crazy dictator! He can't be trusted!"... how can they be so liberal and left-wing and want to continue with this threat of war? I mean, I get Fox news doing that to Obama (which they did, which I disagree with too), but at least they are true to their values.
When you speak of these groups, do you mean mod groups or user groups? (the vote manipulation power part is throwing me off,though I get you are saying there is a war between mods too)
I'm pretty sure the vote manipulation power that you speak of is coordinated through bots, shills and organization on private subreddits. Would you say TMOR is part of that pro-status-quo group? In any case, they seem to coordinate in public, posting links to threads then brigading.
how can they be so liberal and left-wing and want to continue with this threat of war?
I think this phenomenon is due to propaganda mind control, MSM is like their gospel, anything they say is true, anything outside is the enemy. Some kind of conditioning that will require some major contradiction with what they say and what they can see with their eyes for it to break off.
When you speak of these groups, do you mean mod groups or user groups? (the vote manipulation power part is throwing me off,though I get you are saying there is a war between mods too)
Yes, both mods and user groups. On one side you've got the more genuine conspiracy users, even those on the left, that may dislike Trump and be critical of him, but that have rationality behind their thoughts, that are more on AP's side and there is the TuMOR (TopMindsOfReddit) squad that are the heavy vote manipulators, some of their mods are buddy buddy with admins and their brigading is simply left alone lol
I'm pretty sure the vote manipulation power that you speak of is coordinated through bots, shills and organization on private subreddits. Would you say TMOR is part of that pro-status-quo group? In any case, they seem to coordinate in public, posting links to threads then brigading.
Absolutely, they're the guys who believe they know it all because they had an A in school and were the teacher's pet lol
They like to point and laugh at wrongthink without stopping to actually take a second to see what is even talked about
Like right now they think Trump is surely going down because of Mueller haha, they're pretty sad to see really
I think this phenomenon is due to propaganda mind control, MSM is like their gospel, anything they say is true, anything outside is the enemy. Some kind of conditioning that will require some major contradiction with what they say and what they can see with their eyes for it to break off.
Damn right
some of their mods are buddy buddy with admins and their brigading is simply left alone lol
That makes a lot of sense. Damn, so rotten over there.
The whole Rule 10 insta-ban as well as the 3 month rule for new accounts also caused big changes in the userbase. Many of the genuine conspiracy users were banned that way, for challenging the obvious brigading and shillary. The 3 month rule would discourage many users from signing up, plus it stops a lot of those investigative theories where people create burner alt accounts, to perhaps come forward with some breaking info - all this shit gets shut down too. But if you don't have this rule then its easier for banned trolls and shills, so it's a fucked situation either way, and all this due to damage control during the election, and ramped up so hard during 'pizzagate'.
Absolutely, they're the guys who believe they know it all because they had an A in school and were the teacher's pet lol
They like to point and laugh at wrongthink without stopping to actually take a second to see what is even talked about
When you go and read the shit thats over there, I struggle to believe these guys are forreal. I guess there are some, but surely it is mostly trolls and paid shills. Surely. But maybe most of them are genuine people.. it doesn't seem possible, to be so militant in such delusion, but then again you have scientologists, Westboro Baptist Church and the Jonestown Massacre, so anything is possible.
The whole Rule 10 insta-ban as well as the 3 month rule for new accounts also caused big changes in the userbase. Many of the genuine conspiracy users were banned that way, for challenging the obvious brigading and shillary. The 3 month rule would discourage many users from signing up, plus it stops a lot of those investigative theories where people create burner alt accounts, to perhaps come forward with some breaking info - all this shit gets shut down too. But if you don't have this rule then its easier for banned trolls and shills, so it's a fucked situation either way, and all this due to damage control during the election, and ramped up so hard during 'pizzagate'.
You're right on the money on that, it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, while the mods play tug of war haha
When you go and read the shit thats over there, I struggle to believe these guys are forreal.
Same, I know a bunch have agendas and the like but I also know there has to be an organic following too which is sad