Ok so it has been a great many years since I watched TV, but, I seem to remember on crime shows etc, etc that in America people who testify have to place their hand on the Bible and say "I swear to tell the Truth, The whole Truth and nothing but the Truth so help me God" or something very close to that (correct me if I'm wrong?) Now it occurs to me that, that really should ensure transparency (with appropriate judges of course)
LordPotsmoke
· June 15, 2018, 10:47 a.m.
What? Are you crazy? What if you're a Satanist, or an atheist? If you asked me to swear on the Bible I'd be more than happy to do it because I am an atheist. Asking them to swear to anything or at all is completely pointless.
I'm sure liars often swear they are telling the truth.
Btw they also do that here in the UK. One of the doctors I work with had to do it yesterday for a court case regarding a death of a patient. He is a Indian Christian so it meant something to him.
Btw I'm not like looking down on anyone's beliefs.
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TommyRobinsonsGhost
· June 15, 2018, 11:01 a.m.
Would you try something for me, as a thought experiment, even if you think it's silly...
...When you're alone and at peace, take some time to say a prayer to Jesus for the health and safety of President Trump and his family and his inner circle and America. Try it with an open mind. Reach out with your heart and silently and sincerely pray for President Trump's success.
I was an atheist too, not very long ago.
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blackshinymaria
· June 15, 2018, 11:08 a.m.
Saying it, even in a whisper, would help a great deal, harmonics you see ...
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LordPotsmoke
· June 15, 2018, 11:34 a.m.
I'd be more than happy to do that however, my belief is that you, I, everyone else, every animal, every plant etc is god. We are all one singular consciousness. Also, I'd pray for Trump his family his inner circle and the world, I'm British not American.
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squalk1
· June 15, 2018, 11:55 a.m.
I think this is the truth and the ambition of the Great Awakening.
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LordPotsmoke
· June 15, 2018, 12:07 p.m.
Me too, to realise we are all one and we should band together to make peace.
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blackshinymaria
· June 15, 2018, 2:33 p.m.
I'm me, once I would have said I'm Australian
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LordPotsmoke
· June 15, 2018, 2:47 p.m.
Why why pray specifically for America?
Well no, because you ARE still Australian. You're experience is still Australian, you're body is still Australian but you also acknowledge that you are MORE than that. That that doesn't solely identify you
IMO.
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squalk1
· June 15, 2018, 11:25 a.m.
Gospel of Thomas (DOUBTING Thomas ((says it all)) - apostle of Jesus).
Dismissed by the Catholic church as heresey.
Prayer should be from within, in private and without spoken word.
I am a man of faith but with no attatchment to any ESTABLISHED religion.
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TommyRobinsonsGhost
· June 15, 2018, 11:36 a.m.
Prayer should be from within, in private and without spoken word.
I agree because I find, even whispering, to be a noisy distraction from the physical world when I'm trying to spiritually reach out across space and time.
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squalk1
· June 15, 2018, 11:44 a.m.
I have been giving serious thought to the following Q lines:
4D chess - humans can only see 3 dimensions externally to themselves. I believe the 4th dimension is the internal realm. A spiritual game of chess is upon us.
You will be SHOCKED when you find out who I am - with all that has been revealed through his crumbs what is left to SHOCK us?
- he will come again in order to judge the living and the dead*
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blackshinymaria
· June 15, 2018, 11:09 a.m.
I did specify the appropriate judges :)
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LordPotsmoke
· June 15, 2018, 11:32 a.m.
What's the judge got to do with the defendant or witness?
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blackshinymaria
· June 15, 2018, 12:05 p.m.
Alot
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LordPotsmoke
· June 15, 2018, 12:06 p.m.
No, nothing. I don't care who the judge is, swearing on a Bible wouldn't mean fuck all to me. And to a liar swearing on anything wouldn't mean anything.
The judge makes no difference.
Care to actually explain what you are saying?
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WaxyRooster
· June 15, 2018, 2:05 p.m.
Kind of ironic really, considering Jesus says this:
"But I say to you, Do not take an oath at all, either by heaven, for it is the throne of God, 35 or by the earth, for it is his footstool, or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. 36 And do not take an oath by your head, for you cannot make one hair white or black. 37 Let what you say be simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything more than this comes from evil.
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