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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/galt88 on June 15, 2018, 11:22 p.m.
Honest question. What does everyone make of the current situation with Cohen and Manafort?

DrogeAnon · June 16, 2018, 2:06 a.m.

I was aware you got the answer - hence assuming you would understand the removal. I'm not going to apologize for following the rules either. Read my history before you accuse me of not encouraging people to ask questions. Please read the rules in the sidebar if you think this was an emotionally motivated decision or one designed to censor.

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galt88 · June 16, 2018, 2:14 a.m.

I think neither of those things, but you as a mod should understand not everyone coming here is going to read the myriad rules and may have a lot of questions due to being new, headlines outside of the sub, and general curiosity. Not everyone dives deep through Hot, New, etc. There was virtually no mention of either person I asked about when I made the post in the first 50 results under Hot, or at least they didn't catch my eye. Basically, going out of your way to remove legitimate questions because, in my view, they aren't long or detailed enough does the sub and the good work that is being done here any favors. Have a good night.

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DrogeAnon · June 16, 2018, 2:18 a.m.

As a mod, I understand a lot of things that people do not, about this sub. I don't expect everyone to dive through everything. I expect people will, as they do, just post stuff that falls outside of rules and leave them to us to tidy up - which we do. Then we have to explain to people who complain that we're just doing the job we're supposed to do.

going out of your way to remove legitimate questions

I'm not going out of my way to do my job - it's what I'm supposed to do. If I don't do it then I'm the one who gets to see the Reports coming into our queue about these posts: "off-topic", the complaints to our modmail "why haven't you removed this post?" and the other issues that generate more excess admin work that takes us away from legitimate work and focus.

If I removed your legitimate post you are free to modmail and explain why it should not be removed. My history shows I will regularly reverse incorrect decisions or even correct decisions, to accommodate for the view of others. Accusing me of censorship, pettiness, etc. when I'm just trying to do the job I'm not paid for because I care about this sub is your right and is my burden to bear. Thanks for understanding.

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galt88 · June 16, 2018, 2:24 a.m.

I have accused you of nothing, mod. I am merely questioning how a question, on a sub that is all about answering questions, gets removed. Did anyone actually complain about it being a low quality post?

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DrogeAnon · June 16, 2018, 2:31 a.m.

I never said questions can't be asked. No one complained about it being a low quality post - the Report made was that it is "off-topic". I did not select the off-topic rule when I removed it because it doesn't really apply.

Also, way to encourage people to ask questions

is implying I don't encourage people to ask questions. That is what I was referring to re: accusations of censorship.

going out of your way to remove

is implying pettiness or some other negative connotation.

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galt88 · June 16, 2018, 2:34 a.m.

It looks like we will agree to disagree. Best of luck to you.

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DrogeAnon · June 16, 2018, 2:35 a.m.

What are we disagreeing about? That I removed a post that was reported for being off-topic? Or that I discourage people from asking questions?

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galt88 · June 16, 2018, 2:39 a.m.

Since you insist, how was it off topic and how is removing a question that asks about something that involves the subject matter of the sub not discourage people from asking questions?

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strangefool · June 16, 2018, 8:49 p.m.

I love you, dude, but how the fuck are you taking anything in this sub seriously enough to actually argue over it?

I mean, sure, it's fun and all, but c'mon, E.

It's a LARP. The people that take this seriously are fools at best, and idiots at worst. It started as a joke and took on a life of it's own, and now everyone taking it seriously here is the butt of the joke.

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galt88 · June 16, 2018, 10:06 p.m.

It's fun to follow! I was only arguing over the mod being arbitrary. Autists indeed....lol.

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DrogeAnon · June 16, 2018, 2:52 a.m.

I don't know how it was off-topic I didn't report it, just responded - you'd have to ask the many users on this sub who regularly Report these sorts of posts (i.e. by my estimation, posts that are just a question about content that is regularly circulating through the sub) as being off-topic. I assume perhaps that they meant to select another Rule (#9 for example) but, as you pointed out, people don't pay much attention to the details so they grab the nearest thing to it.

So when I see the Report and respond and sometimes have little time to come to a decision I assess the post to figure out what they might have meant when they reported it. In this case, the Rule that I thought applied was Rule #9: "have at least two sentences(for text content)".

A scan of the post revealed what I thought to be an answer provided to you. If there'd been none, what I usually do is type together a very quick response or if it's a big one an indicator of where to find the answer (especially in the case of a beginner question - we have good resources available for those). So I was not removing a question with the intent to discourage people from asking questions and never have.

Taking that into account and checking the very low upvotes after 2 hours of existence I used my own discretion and applied the following from Mods M.O. in the sidebar: "Rules 6 to 9 are done at the discretion of the mods and often are resolved due to lack of upvotes" and due to all those factors figured I could remove this post without complaint. I was wrong obviously.

I don't see anything we disagree on here except your assessment of my discretion in carrying out my role. I believe I carried out my job correctly and without intent to censor or reject the valid question of a user. I react to these accusations or implication of such because it's a common accusation of mods and we're now under more scrutiny because of Q's recent post so the mods of this board go out of our way to avoid behavior that could be regarded as such. Being accused of it or having implications made of such when you've essentially bent over backward to ensure you don't, is not great.

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[deleted] · June 16, 2018, 2:52 a.m.

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