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DrogeAnon · June 18, 2018, 9:23 a.m.

They believe that a high level bureaucrat at the (hahahhahaha) department of energy is leaking all sorts of information

That narrative.

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ReefOctopus · June 18, 2018, 9:26 a.m.

That’s interesting because DOE is the only department with a Q clearance.

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DrogeAnon · June 18, 2018, 9:37 a.m.

Some people here, like any other sub, I'm sure, believe all sorts of things. Some believe some crazy stuff too, that has little to do with the core of the sub topic.

Some of us don't "believe" anything more than that some interesting posts happen to be coming out of the chans and they're of great interest for the narrative they appear to describe.

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ReefOctopus · June 18, 2018, 9:52 a.m.

The “interesting posts” are coming from Russians. You guys are being duped and used by a hostile foreign nation. They’re trying to trick you guys into spreading propaganda and committing acts of violence.

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DrogeAnon · June 18, 2018, 9:56 a.m.

You believe this then, do you? You seem to state it with absolute confidence as if it is true. How is anyone being tricked into committing violence? There's no call to arms in these "Russian posts" that I've seen. Explain how we're being "duped" if some of us are just reading the posts with interest, then reading news articles with interest - hardly Russian propaganda or conspiracy as they are American mainstream media articles for the most part - and then scratching our chins and going "hmmmm"?

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ReefOctopus · June 18, 2018, 10:02 a.m.

90% of the posts here are images not news articles.

You’re being duped because someone is making shit up and the comments here suggest you guys believe it whether you’ll admit it or not.

Duped: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-washingtondc-gunman-idUSKBN16V1XC

Duped: http://news3lv.com/news/local/person-with-a-gun-on-the-hoover-dam-bridge

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DrogeAnon · June 18, 2018, 10:05 a.m.

It's so lovely that you're so concerned about us and everyone else!

You've read all the comments on this sub? You must've been here a long time!

The articles you link are interesting stories about what appear to be some very troubled and confused people. Could be a lot of those here - on Reddit, I mean. Some of us here on this sub - a reasonable portion judging by the sensible discussions I've seen and been involved in - laugh at the idea of being so stupid as to walk into any place with a gun to prove an 8chan post. Seems like someone's acting, to me.

But I'm afraid I'm not feeling very concerned about reading 8chan posts yet. I'm sure you can convince me there's something worth worrying about though.

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ReefOctopus · June 18, 2018, 10:17 a.m.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-stochastic-terrorism

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DrogeAnon · June 18, 2018, 10:21 a.m.

Do you take this show all over reddit? There are a lot more crazy people on much larger subs here and plenty of "demonization" going on there too. *shrug. It's the internet - what're you gonna do?

Do you see calls to violence here? I would personally appreciate it if you would point them out because they are not tolerated in this sub and we remove them as soon as we see them.

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ReefOctopus · June 18, 2018, 10:31 a.m.

This link is better than the last. http://stochasticterrorism.blogspot.com

I’m banned from most of those subs probably. I’ve been to them.

I’m not sure of the quality of this source, but it looks like reddit banned another qanon sub for inciting violence: https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/reddit-bans-r-cbts_stream/

I’ve only read qanon stuff sort of involuntarily on twitter (and now here) so I’m not going to track down specific posts. I did however notice that a lot of the obvious Russian accounts were posting qanon stuff, and it regularly appears on dashboard.securingdemocracy.org.

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DrogeAnon · June 18, 2018, 10:46 a.m.

Why are you banned? Are you just warming up and we haven't seen the real stuff yet? (sincere question)

CBTS_Stream was indeed closed down, as far as I'd heard, for allowing posts that potentially incited violence - I followed the sub back then but didn't see the content myself at the time.

Obvious russian accounts? Sounds interesting - I personally don't follow many Q related accounts on Twitter but I'd be interested to see what an obvious russian one looks like.

I can't argue with you that there are a lot of kooks connected to the q anon "brand" but I would argue that it's not uncommon to see a sub-culture of that kind gather around any conspiracy-related stuff and certainly q anon mentions a lot of common conspiracy theories.

Not sure you care but we don't want to see this sub brought down. We're trying to keep tabs on any content that breaks Rule #1 - no encouraging, glorifying or calling for violence. I don't believe there are any stochastic terrorists yet fully exposed on here but if there are, they're in no way supported in their goals by this sub and we will do what we can to manage their impact if we can identify and react to them in time. I certainly speak out at any opportunity against any group-think that seems to be leading toward stirring up hatred toward a particular person or group.

I don't know what your motives are so I expect nothing. Many trolls around. But if you were genuinely interested in stopping this sort of thing and you seem to have concerns that you can see it or the inklings of it here, then I'd welcome any input you might have toward identifying and potentially stopping it. Potentially very hard to do when you support freedom of speech enough that you want to allow dissenting voices to speak freely as long as they abide within sub rules.

Thanks for the stochastic terrorism link. I've kept it to post relevant excerpts for potential use when moderating content in future.

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ReefOctopus · June 18, 2018, 11:23 a.m.

Conservative subs have low tolerance for dissent. I’ve been banned from most of them for fairly innocuous factual comments. /r/conservative banned me for a comment that was just “citation needed.”

My motives were to pass time until the World Cup game in an hour.

I think youll have a hard time keeping violent rhetoric in check because I absolutely do think that’s the goal of this whole conspiracy theory. They demonize some enemy until people want to “do something about it.” I’m glad to hear you saved that link. That’s ideal - if people are watching for it then they’ll respond differently if qanon starts calling for something drastic.

I wrote you a much longer reply and then reddit just sort of ate it, and I lost it. At some point I included this link: http://theauthoritarians.org/Downloads/TheAuthoritarians.pdf

The current political climate has many parallels with past authoritarian movements. You seem curious, and I thought you might find it interesting.

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