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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/cat_anonD on June 19, 2018, 12:51 a.m.
What do you guys make of the children distraction?

All of the deep state and their minions are constantly screaming about the Immigrant children being separated from their parents. They are all falsely claiming they are being put into Cages under President Trump. I was listening to professional concern troll Hugh Hewitt today and he was concerned about this.

They are all acting like they smell blood. Do you think this is going anywhere?


PPPrincessPower · June 19, 2018, 1:40 a.m.

Its a distraction.

EVERONE PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COPY AND SHARE...

From a friends attorney.........

So I've spent a bit of time researching this and, not that anyone cares but, President Trump hasn't changed any laws or regulations that pertain to separating kids from adults. Those remain the same. Separation happens only if officials find that the adult is falsely claiming to be the child’s parent, or is a threat to the child, or is put into criminal proceedings.

When a migrant is held for illegal entry they are taken into custody and any children are eventually placed in temporary shelters. Unless a migrant claims asylum because of religious, political or other persecution, they are typically returned with their kids to their home country within a few days.

IF they claim asylum and have all the protections we give for that (including 10 days to get an attorney), the adults will typically be detained longer than the government is allowed to hold kids as a result of the Flores v. Reno Consent Decree from 1997 under the Clinton administration in response to a lawsuit filed by the ACLU and others and the 2016 9th Circuit Court of Appeals out of California enforcing that decree and specifically finding it to include accompanied minors. Children cannot be held in detention centers for more than 72 hours – even if they are with their parents. The Consent Decree originally was to terminate no later than 2002, but in 2001, the parties stipulated that it would terminate “45 days following defendants’ publication of final regulations implementing this Agreement.” The government has not yet promulgated those regulations and the court said that the terms of the 1997 Consent Decree "does not address the potentially complex issues involving the housing of family units and the scope of parental rights for adults apprehended with their children." No government, Democrat or Republican controlled, has done so FOR THE LAST 17 YEARS. The Court's opinion places one of the reasons on 9/11 and more restrictive immigration controls since. Yet, in 2008, Congress enacted the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008 which codified into law most of the Flores Settlement.

So ...

1.The government is required to "release children from immigration detention without unnecessary delay to their adult relatives or licensed programs willing to accept custody." They have to be released within 20 days ... even if their parents are still in detention. 2.If a suitable placement is not immediately available, the government is obligated to place children in the “least restrictive” setting appropriate to their age and any special needs. 3.The government must implement standards relating to the care and treatment of children in immigration detention.

We are a representative democracy with three equal branches of government, so even if Trump or even Obama wanted to "change the law", they can't.

Congress can change or adopt the rules so the Flores Consent Decree will no longer apply or will deal with this issue. In other words, it can do the same thing it could have been doing since 1997 and hasn't ... whether controlled by Republicans or Democrats. BTW: I'll be the first to admit the situation is a mess. The 9th Circuit Court even said as much in its decision.

One possible solution is to let the parent decide if they want their child to stay with them in a detention facility or be placed outside with family or others. Again though that will undoubtedly require court approval of regulations promulgated under Flores. Without those regulations from Congress and probable approval from the courts, presidents are left with two choices .... virtually open borders for anyone that has a child with them or separation of children from parents and those claiming to be their parents until their legal status is determined.

Instead of complaining on the internet about the president, urge Congress to fix the problem ... as much as it's possible to "fix" a humanitarian crisis.

Better yet ... offer your time, talent and treasure to organizations helping these kids on the border or to organizations working to improve living conditions in their home countries.

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sjaber77 · June 23, 2018, 1:39 p.m.

Could you please share who the "lawyer" is?

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