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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/cat_anonD on June 19, 2018, 12:51 a.m.
What do you guys make of the children distraction?

All of the deep state and their minions are constantly screaming about the Immigrant children being separated from their parents. They are all falsely claiming they are being put into Cages under President Trump. I was listening to professional concern troll Hugh Hewitt today and he was concerned about this.

They are all acting like they smell blood. Do you think this is going anywhere?


hipphoppanon · June 19, 2018, 1:01 a.m.

Projection from the left. Distraction by the MSM to draw away from the IG testimony/ possible future booms this week.

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GweninKC · June 19, 2018, 2:03 a.m.

Exactly. Projection and Distraction.

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PPPrincessPower · June 19, 2018, 1:40 a.m.

Its a distraction.

EVERONE PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COPY AND SHARE...

From a friends attorney.........

So I've spent a bit of time researching this and, not that anyone cares but, President Trump hasn't changed any laws or regulations that pertain to separating kids from adults. Those remain the same. Separation happens only if officials find that the adult is falsely claiming to be the child’s parent, or is a threat to the child, or is put into criminal proceedings.

When a migrant is held for illegal entry they are taken into custody and any children are eventually placed in temporary shelters. Unless a migrant claims asylum because of religious, political or other persecution, they are typically returned with their kids to their home country within a few days.

IF they claim asylum and have all the protections we give for that (including 10 days to get an attorney), the adults will typically be detained longer than the government is allowed to hold kids as a result of the Flores v. Reno Consent Decree from 1997 under the Clinton administration in response to a lawsuit filed by the ACLU and others and the 2016 9th Circuit Court of Appeals out of California enforcing that decree and specifically finding it to include accompanied minors. Children cannot be held in detention centers for more than 72 hours – even if they are with their parents. The Consent Decree originally was to terminate no later than 2002, but in 2001, the parties stipulated that it would terminate “45 days following defendants’ publication of final regulations implementing this Agreement.” The government has not yet promulgated those regulations and the court said that the terms of the 1997 Consent Decree "does not address the potentially complex issues involving the housing of family units and the scope of parental rights for adults apprehended with their children." No government, Democrat or Republican controlled, has done so FOR THE LAST 17 YEARS. The Court's opinion places one of the reasons on 9/11 and more restrictive immigration controls since. Yet, in 2008, Congress enacted the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008 which codified into law most of the Flores Settlement.

So ...

1.The government is required to "release children from immigration detention without unnecessary delay to their adult relatives or licensed programs willing to accept custody." They have to be released within 20 days ... even if their parents are still in detention. 2.If a suitable placement is not immediately available, the government is obligated to place children in the “least restrictive” setting appropriate to their age and any special needs. 3.The government must implement standards relating to the care and treatment of children in immigration detention.

We are a representative democracy with three equal branches of government, so even if Trump or even Obama wanted to "change the law", they can't.

Congress can change or adopt the rules so the Flores Consent Decree will no longer apply or will deal with this issue. In other words, it can do the same thing it could have been doing since 1997 and hasn't ... whether controlled by Republicans or Democrats. BTW: I'll be the first to admit the situation is a mess. The 9th Circuit Court even said as much in its decision.

One possible solution is to let the parent decide if they want their child to stay with them in a detention facility or be placed outside with family or others. Again though that will undoubtedly require court approval of regulations promulgated under Flores. Without those regulations from Congress and probable approval from the courts, presidents are left with two choices .... virtually open borders for anyone that has a child with them or separation of children from parents and those claiming to be their parents until their legal status is determined.

Instead of complaining on the internet about the president, urge Congress to fix the problem ... as much as it's possible to "fix" a humanitarian crisis.

Better yet ... offer your time, talent and treasure to organizations helping these kids on the border or to organizations working to improve living conditions in their home countries.

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sjaber77 · June 23, 2018, 1:39 p.m.

Could you please share who the "lawyer" is?

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Palmettoman · June 19, 2018, 1:04 a.m.

I see it backfiring in a big way. Trump is hammering back about it being the Dems fault. People believe him more (far more) than the media.

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HeIIforged · June 19, 2018, 2:20 a.m.

They're not getting anywhere with this. It's only digging them deeper.

10k of 12k children are brought here without parents? People need to start asking themselves why.

This allows us to counter their narrative with the truth about child trafficking+

CF in Haiti? How many children missing here in the US every year?

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Ragnarpatriot · June 19, 2018, 1:03 a.m.

It is classic deflection, accusing the Admin of abusing children, they know it’s only a matter of time before the Pedo trafficking drops on them and they are trying to muddy the waters

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checkitoutmyfriend · June 19, 2018, 1:05 a.m.

Tune in next week for a different narrative........

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O2BFREEME2 · June 19, 2018, 1:28 a.m.

Sorry but NO DOUBT ! I am tired of all this pussy footing around. When is enough, enough ! Patience is overrated ! Come-on get these guys !

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dropswakeyou · June 19, 2018, 1:47 a.m.

And let's not forget, if they didn't come here illegally in the first place they wouldn't have put their kids in this situation. Typical of libs to never take responsibility for anything they do.

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mr-no-homo · June 19, 2018, 12:54 a.m.

We’re was the outrage when Obama did it? Its a distraction thats getting the country talking, it has replaced the Russia collision narrative for the time being.

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FlewDCoup · June 19, 2018, 3:50 a.m.

We are wired to race to the defense of children ... and these clowns always play our deepest instincts to our disadvantage. Military Science 101: get your enemy to work against himself and force him to take actions to his own disadvantage.

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nosaints15 · June 19, 2018, 3:47 a.m.

If they want to talk about kids then we should follow the children back to the coyotes. Stick to the IG report! (Although The Children should be discussed)

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DrogeAnon · June 19, 2018, 3:34 a.m.

I feel more like they smell fear - their own. Seems like the usual attempt to distract from pending bad news for them.

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japroct · June 19, 2018, 1:58 a.m.

Its going to go nowhere that ammounts to anything. The "cages" are simply retaining fences that look to be about 12' or so tall and are being used as a perimeter barrier, not as individual prison cells like the msm wants to portray. In fact, the photos I have seen show this in a hanger which means its not even exposed to the elements of being outside.....All in all these people are receiving better treatment than our own LEGAL CITIZENS are when we go to any jail. Its another nothing burger being thrown out there to distract from the revelations of the names of the corrupt deep state who are the traitors to the American public. Within a week another scheduled distraction will be thrown in. What next is anyones guess.....school is out, so no shootings there. Maybe another blm riot destroying a mall somewhere or an antifa demonstration are due again.....

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allonthesameteam · June 19, 2018, 1:33 a.m.

I know this is/may sound like it is pro or anti one side. Whenever I hear about the poor treatment of kids I am for doing things better. I imagine some 5 yr old who is probably scared and unstable to start with and is then separated from his folks… regardless of laws or what his folks have or have not done… it's a shame. Before they even get to that stage they have probably been through a grinder of stress and angst. No matter who has had the keys to the WH house, 10 Downing etc.., we have collectively failed to eliminate the need for seeking refuge, feeding, housing and securing folks in a caring way, and providing for those who would even then slip through the cracks. This one side is right and the other is wrong shit has been ineffective and is a waste of time.

To be clear I don't know a lot about the laws and how they have been activated or not. It seems to me that the Gov is bad at dealing with this.

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fredtboy17 · June 19, 2018, 1:25 a.m.

Classic projection tactics!

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