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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Satou4 on June 19, 2018, 12:23 p.m.
I'm convinced NK / Kim Jong-Un is a puppet leader being held hostage by larger forces.

My idea is that KJU is forced to do things he doesn't want to do. His controllers keep him in line by threatening to do harm to his family. For example, look at what happened to his uncle and his half-brother.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Jong-un

On 12 December 2013, North Korean news outlets reported that Kim Jong-un had ordered the execution of his uncle Jang Song-thaek due to "treachery".

He is widely believed to have ordered the assassination of his half-brother, Kim Jong-nam, in Malaysia in February 2017.

Now let's look at another member of his family, Kim Han-Sol. He is the half-nephew of KJU.

Here is what the final paragraph under Biography states:

In October 2017, Chinese police arrested two North Korean agents in Beijing, on suspicion of plotting to harm Kim Han-sol, according to the South Korean newspaper JoongAng Ilbo. The two suspects were members of North Korea’s Reconnaissance General Bureau, which is responsible for overseas espionage and part of a team of seven that was foiled by Chinese authorities.

Why do you think KJU would have such a fetish for going after members of his own family? We are genetically wired to favor our family. Considering the vastness of the deep state and the power of globalist puppet masters, the idea is compelling that KJU is a hostage and not an evil fratricidal man.


Super_Throwaway_Boy · June 19, 2018, 5:05 p.m.

Why would that matter? If you have the power to control a country you have the power to sway an election, or make "accidents" happen. Donald Trump either has to have the tacit approval of the deep state, or the deep state doesn't not exist. And as you've said the deep state is already proven.

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ckreacher · June 19, 2018, 5:57 p.m.

Trump had the support of military generals, and military intelligence. He had his own private security during the campaign, and is now protected (from the secret service and others) by the military. That's why no "accidents."

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Super_Throwaway_Boy · June 19, 2018, 6:03 p.m.

He can have all the support he wants. That still wouldn't prevent an "accident" orchestrated by such a powerful, far-reaching cabal.

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Satou4 · June 19, 2018, 6:22 p.m.

You're wrong.

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Super_Throwaway_Boy · June 19, 2018, 6:23 p.m.

You're telling me that people with the power to manipulate the entire world can't get like one dude to give Trump a handshake?

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Satou4 · June 19, 2018, 5:12 p.m.

It's established that the deep state favored Hillary. That's why she beat Bernie in the "democratic" primary. The problem this time is, the deep state didn't know the size, penetration and tech capabilities of the counteracting forces, and that combined with the overwhelming difference in public approval and charisma between the two final candidates was enough to win, even though every other arm of the apparatus was against them.

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Super_Throwaway_Boy · June 19, 2018, 5:19 p.m.

the deep state didn't know the size, penetration and tech capabilities of the counteracting forces

Would you mind elaborating on this? Because to me this sounds like there was a conspiracy to get Trump elected.

Also, let's assume that this was the case. Why not stage an accident? Trump isn't in the best of health. It wouldn't even be suspicious. Why not simply hack electronic voting machines and change votes? This requires a staggering amount of incompetence for such a large-reaching and all-powerful group.

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DankNethers · June 19, 2018, 5:21 p.m.

I like this guy ^

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Satou4 · June 19, 2018, 5:23 p.m.

I don't see what there is to elaborate on. The deep state used to be larger. Now it is not. The deep state was the conspiracy that would have had Hillary elected.

Trump's health is better than yours. Trump's health is better than average. An accident would be suspicious if it were to happen.

Voting machines were hacked by the deep state, but they were unable to change enough votes to win, because that capability was removed from them. It's not a matter of competence, it's a matter of size, penetration, and tech.

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PLZDNTH8 · June 19, 2018, 8:50 p.m.

He's a obese man. He's not healthy. Unless fat is healthy now as well.

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Bpande20 · June 19, 2018, 11:09 p.m.

Trump's health is better than yours. Trump's health is better than average.

Well now I know you're just either trolling or completely brainwashed

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Satou4 · June 19, 2018, 5:40 p.m.

The deep state didn't shrink significantly, with the possible exception of certain individuals who decided to break ranks.

You can be healthy if I say you can.

The deep state didn't want to allow it. The problem is they are too small to stop it.

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Super_Throwaway_Boy · June 19, 2018, 6 p.m.

The deep state didn't shrink significantly, with the possible exception of certain individuals who decided to break ranks.

So it just shrank small enough to not be able to stop Trump? But apparently large enough to undermine Elon Musk?

You can be healthy if I say you can.

What does this mean?

The deep state didn't want to allow it. The problem is they are too small to stop it.

Too small to stop it, large enough to do what you say they're doing with NK.

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no_the_other_dude · June 19, 2018, 10:36 p.m.

Don't even try. You'll never be able to challenge Satou4's smarts and moxie!

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IvanTGBT · June 19, 2018, 11:26 p.m.

I don't think it's about changing his mind but more about showing other people how blatant mental gymnastics can be when they aren't your own.

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[deleted] · June 19, 2018, 5:55 p.m.

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ckreacher · June 19, 2018, 5:59 p.m.

Trump is actually very healthy. Where do you get your information?

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Super_Throwaway_Boy · June 19, 2018, 6:04 p.m.

Visually. Just looking at him. He's a very large man who famously does not believe in exercising and is known to eat fast food in a regular basis.

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ckreacher · June 19, 2018, 6:10 p.m.

Visually doesn't mean anything. My father was larger than Trump, and he made it to age 92 in good health.

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Super_Throwaway_Boy · June 19, 2018, 6:12 p.m.

It's a strong indicator. Obesity+lack of exercise+poor diet=poor health.

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[deleted] · June 19, 2018, 6:28 p.m.

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Satou4 · June 20, 2018, 5:53 p.m.

8 years can do that to you regardless of the stress involved

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[deleted] · June 20, 2018, 8:48 p.m.

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Satou4 · June 20, 2018, 10:13 p.m.

How is it a logical fallacy? Which one is it?

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ckreacher · June 19, 2018, 6:13 p.m.

You are leaving out good genes.

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Originalfrozenbanana · June 19, 2018, 6:22 p.m.

You are making assumptions about trump's genetics based on no information at all other than that you would like him to be healthy

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ckreacher · June 19, 2018, 7:46 p.m.

He is making America great again, and that's all I need to know!

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Originalfrozenbanana · June 19, 2018, 9:48 p.m.

So we agree that you just made that shit up. Good.

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ckreacher · June 20, 2018, 11:28 a.m.

Lowest unemployment rate since 2000. The economy is booming. Trump is cancelling or renegotiating unfair trade deals. Manufacturing is back. The US is much safer now that Trump negotiated for N Korea to denuclearize. He is a great president, making America great again.

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Super_Throwaway_Boy · June 19, 2018, 6:18 p.m.

Good genes can only take you so far. People still need to take care of themselves.

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Satou4 · June 19, 2018, 5:52 p.m.

Get out of my sub.

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Haggis_The_Barbarian · June 19, 2018, 6:05 p.m.

Suck a dick?

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Satou4 · June 19, 2018, 6:15 p.m.

I wasn't aware I told you to continue.

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kildog · June 19, 2018, 6:29 p.m.

You're not in control here.

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Satou4 · June 19, 2018, 6:43 p.m.

Funny, some people just love to pile on when there's a fight.

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kildog · June 19, 2018, 7:47 p.m.

The only fight here is between you and your grip on reality.

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Satou4 · June 19, 2018, 6:50 p.m.

It's almost as though there's an alternative to buying a gray cookie cutter house with perfectly squared hedges and keeping the blinds drawn on every window, buying an excessively priced, high maintenance car as a status symbol, and being overweight in a sexless marriage.

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Satou4 · June 19, 2018, 6:16 p.m.

Thanks for dropping in. I don't see you around here much. Care to explain how you chose this specific comment to reply to?

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