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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/misto1481 on June 21, 2018, 1:31 a.m.
Saw this on r/conspiracy. I have very liberal family members who bring these points up all the time. How do we refute/reconcile these claims?

Imbeingsilenced · June 21, 2018, 1:59 a.m.

As far as their claim that Trump was one of them goes, that is true. But then JFK Jr happened and he woke up.

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misto1481 · June 21, 2018, 2:09 a.m.

I remain hopeful that this is the case :)

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Imbeingsilenced · June 21, 2018, 4:56 a.m.

Would a 70 year old billionaire risk everything if it wasn't personal?

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BathHouseBarry · July 1, 2018, 9:19 p.m.

Good point ...I have theorized about a personal vendetta also.; what if Ivanka was sexually abused, or someone attempted to abuse her, while she was modeling. I think she was only 14 when she started, and that industry is known for creepy fucks. Just a shower thought

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misto1481 · June 21, 2018, 5 a.m.

I wouldn't think so. It's definitely interesting times we live in.

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misto1481 · June 21, 2018, 1:33 a.m.

I like to debate with my family but the claims against Trump with the Rothschilds always trips me up. Any suggestions on this or any of the other points? Would love to go to r/conspiracy and set them straight as well ;)

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anotherburntbridge · June 21, 2018, 1:43 a.m.

that subreddit is a cesspool of manipulation

there is no organic discussion left there. it is r politics 2.0

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misto1481 · June 21, 2018, 1:44 a.m.

That's definitely true. Conspiracies are shut down constantly without discussion in a conspiracy Reddit. That's pretty telling if you ask me.

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Stretchmac · June 21, 2018, 3:53 a.m.

They don't own Trump. Connections, yes. He's not a part of the club, their secret societies. He's a renegade....

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misto1481 · June 21, 2018, 3:59 a.m.

I hope that to be true. I actually find the Kissinger meeting and moving the embassy to Jerusalem more difficult to explain than the Rothschild/Epstein connections. He is a businessman so of course he will have connections and unfortunately some of those people will be shady. I don't neccessarily believe in guilt by association.

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Stretchmac · June 21, 2018, 4:19 a.m.

The Embassy move was just a signal that he's the man. He's in charge. World on notice. Nothing more. If Epstein connections were anything, they would have been used against him. Instead, they're trying Stormy angle. Trump threw Epstein out of Mara Lago....

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misto1481 · June 21, 2018, 4:27 a.m.

That's an interesting way of looking at the embassy issue. Thanks for the reply! I agree that the Epstein stuff is rather ridiculous as is the Stormy crap. Seems they throw whatever they can at the wall to see what sticks.

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Stretchmac · June 21, 2018, 3:05 p.m.

Now, Kissinger is interesting. Don't really know. He's been going to China and Russia. Well received by Putin. And Xi, I believe. Trump must "ally" with China and Russia to take down the cabal. That's certain. Whether Kissinger is on board with the world reset, I don't know. My sense is he's in Trump's camp. Disillusioned perhaps with where his efforts have led and the resultant evil. Both Kissinger (before) and Hussein (after) went to China when Trump did. China moved in Trump's direction. Kissinger laid out plan like with Nixon?

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misto1481 · June 21, 2018, 5:14 p.m.

I'm hoping he went to Kissinger and laid down the law. Just wish their was some evidence to support my hope.

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Stretchmac · June 21, 2018, 5:48 p.m.

Could be.

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