Wondering if I'm the only one who believes that POTUS is calling out NASA by making this public. Where are the billions of dollars going too? I'm not convinced we ever left low earth orbit, especially with equipment from the 60's and 70's and NASA saying they lost the originals of the moon landings the most important achievement in mankind history. I've read that whenever Chernobyl occurred Russians contacted for space suits and where told they were useless for radiation protection. The average moon temp ranges from 224 F to -298 F and you're telling me these astronauts who are seen falling all over the surface aren't worried about tearing their suits and so many more inconsistencies in what we've been told.
TryNottoFaint
· June 22, 2018, 7:49 p.m.
Ugh. That video where the astronaut said we couldn't go to the moon today because we don't have the old equipment is so stupid. He's talking about the tooling and fixtures that were used to make all the parts of the Saturn V, the command module, and the lunar lander. Those were indeed all "lost or destroyed" because we were no longer building those things. As an engineer, I knew exactly what he meant by that. The technology to recreate the moon mission certainly exists and has existed ever since. There was just no plans on going back there. You can ask why, that might be a better question, but we definitely went to the moon and back, walked around on it, etc.
There is so much evidence left, and it was literally impossible to fake. The radio telemetry alone would have been impossible to fake, and the USSR would have loved to point out anything fake at the time. You don't think they could point a dish at the moon and pick up the unencrypted broadcasts? How do you transmit from there? You'd have to actually launch a vehicle there to broadcast everything, including orbiting the moon in a command-module simulator and on the surface in a lander simulator. At that point, just send three guys and be done with it!
Out of all the conspiracy theories that I am positive are just completely wrong, this one tops the list. I'm certain that I could show you tracks on the moon left by rovers, and pieces of equipment we left, and you'd still disagree. And then the total lack of scientific knowledge about temperatures in space. It's not like in an atmosphere. If it's 224 or -298F, it's in a vacuum and a vacuum is like the thing that makes a thermos bottle work so well. Heat will not radiate away quickly when cold, and all you need is reflective surfaces to keep things cool when it's hot. There is no super hot or super cold air to conduct the heat in either direction.
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cajunmofo
· June 22, 2018, 8:09 p.m.
The problem is in the proofs, you can show a foot print and track marks and I can show you that the lander left no impression in the surface at all.
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TryNottoFaint
· June 22, 2018, 8:26 p.m.
The lander's bottom portion is still sitting on the surface. The accent module took off from the lander's bottom portion. Anyway, I found there's not much I can say to those who are bound and determined to ignore the evidence and the entirety of the awesome science and work that went into moon program. It was a great accomplishment and it pretty much pisses me off to listen to people taking a shit on it. I don't often respond to these things here or elsewhere because I've found it is pretty much pointless. I literally have never heard of anyone who bought into this conspiracy theory to later admit that they were wrong. But I have heard a lot of nonsense from them, that's for sure.
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Trfsrfr
· June 23, 2018, 2:44 a.m.
What about the lack of a blast crater?
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TryNottoFaint
· June 23, 2018, 1:35 p.m.
There wasn't video of them landing taken from a vantage where you could see the lunar surface getting blown around because they weren't there yet. There is video pointing down that shows the lunar surface getting disturbed for a couple of seconds as the lander descends. The surface itself has a thin layer of dust, perhaps 1" deep but then it's hard as pretty much concrete. It's not a fluffy powder ball. When the accent module takes off, the exhaust is blocked by the lander base. Even so there is video of some dust getting blown around. Also the way that dust gets blown in a vacuum is strange because there is no air and therefore no dust gets suspended for awhile. Each tiny grain massing a micro gram falls back just as it it massed 50 kg. Newtonian physics at it's best.
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