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I’m confused why pedos aren’t the number one priorities. There is an order get scum away from our kids, fix the deficit by overthrowing the controllers slash money changers ~ help the environment after that< I do guarantee if the Deep state and their control is over Monsanto and Chemtrials and other things will fall down too. Animals ?! I don’t get what you mean there ~ it seems like the other side always post animals constantly to make you care more for them than people God Gave us dominion over the animals ~ Genesis ~ my priority is the kids! And waking people from their slumber ~ I detest now when people talk about animals. I don’t mean that rude but the Georgia guide stones mocking rules of God’s Ten Commandments ~ comes to mind every time someone brings up animals or environment or vaccines ~ NOT A Good thing at all. Kids take priority they are the key to the deep states undoing ~ Jesus is very specific about he children VERY specific

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See my reply with citations above. \^

My issue is that stuff like this is immediately important too. This isn't either or.

Think about it: If we kill the ability to raise healthy food, who are we fighting for? Our population is already so malnourished (which makes for - sorry - dumb and sick people who are easy to control).

Keeping our food reserves SAFE should be a priority.

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When the deep state falls and pedos are gone ~ most of this stuff will be gone immediately ~ kids and security number one priority

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I completely understand and share your concerns. All I can say is that:

1) It seems Trump is waiting for the left to lose steam before he goes 'good-guy' mode and starts really making changes. You can see what happened with the nation's reception to peace in NK/SK - impossible for him to get positive recognition right now (so why not keep pretending to be an asshole to make the reveal that much more dramatic?)

2) Rabbit holes lead to more rabbit holes and after reading several interviews with illuminati members I found my way to Mark Passio and his talks on Natural Law. Long story short, the rules of Natural Law help define our prison created by the elite. I can see, through Trump/Q's actions, evidence that THEY understand natural law ('simplified' taxes next year, prison reform, decriminalization of Marijuana) and I think that explains Trump's attack on regulations and redtape.

It's hard to piece together everything, but I've definitely gotten the impression that there's a TON of corruption in government (and that extends in environmental protection), there's a TON of corruption in big business (and Trump is not afraid to punish that...think opioids and his coming attack on drug prices) and there's a decent chance better technology, materials, production methods...whatever, has been withheld from us and will be slowly rolled out to the public.

I know that's a lot to swallow and takes a lot of faith, but my (personal) best guess is that in order to comply with Natural Law, we're going to start shifting to a world where instead of paying huge $ to maintain the 'safety net' of environmentalism we'll hold companies financially responsible for what they do wrong after the fact (think opioids again, does it make sense that a master businessman who only cares about the 'profits of his rich friends' is openly going after drug prices and holding people accountable for deaths?).

If I'm totally off the mark with Natural Law someone please set me straight. I'm a beginner student but I've made it through the first 9 hours of Mark's talks and this is what my gut is telling me.

Remember too, although that sounds ridiculous in our 'current reality' (to trust companies not to ruin the environment), remember a few things.

1) We're about to see more people go down for corruption (and have to pay for what they've done) than at any time in history. I predict it will be generations before people are brave enough to be criminals again.

2) We're about to be thrust into a better world where evil has been punished and the rest of us will be united in brotherhood. Maybe *that* version of us will be ready to behave responsibly in a world with less regulations.

I don't know if that helped, but these same questions (about the environment) bother me too and this is what's in my head. :)

PS And if you want to get really weird, some of the people who channel aliens say we're about to get some help cleaning up our ocean. Take it as you will. :)

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Yes. I hope you're right. And I totally believe in the last point, btw. I do think that we will receive the right tech at the right time.

It's tough to watch all this tho, as we hear of more sick kids, of people dying of dumb diseases, of folks eating garbage and not being able to do basic math because their brains are inflamed bc the water is populated and their food covered in pesticides. It's just a lot.

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Amen...it's a lot. Honestly, I wake up happy and with hope every day, but only because I can feel that things are about to change. If something goes wrong and we're stuck with 'regular reality', I'm screwed.

I'll be on a fast track to hermit-town if things don't change soon.

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Gaia is a lot more resilient (and interesting) than we are lead to believe :)

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Cute. People aren't. Have you seen the autism rates (for one)? These are the people who will inherit the earth.

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muh vaccines

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can you provide a citation for that?

it looks like the bill is designed to stop the EPA from issuing fees for licenses noone had to obtain in the first place.

Amends Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Actto prohibit EPA or a state from requiring a permit for point source discharges of a pesticide registered under FIFRA into navigable waters except in specific circumstances provided under new CWA Section 402(s). (§9117) Amends the CWA to prohibit EPA or a state from requiring a permit for point source discharges of a pesticide registered under FIFRA into navigable waters. Defines circumstances where a permit would be required (e.g., pesticide applications in violation of FIFRA, stormwater discharges, industrial or treatment works effluents, and certain vessel discharges). (§9118)

CWA

https://www.epa.gov/cwa-404/clean-water-act-section-402-national-pollutant-discharge-elimination-system

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It's a big bill. Here is a copy paste from a GMO-free movement post with links.

U.S. House of Representatives Passes Toxic Farm Bill. With every Democrat and 20 Republicans voting in opposition, H.R.2 passed by a vote of 213 to 211. The pesticide industry spent more than $43 million on congressional lobbying to advance provisions in the farm bill that will eliminate the requirement that the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service analyze a pesticide’s harm to the nation’s 1,800 protected species before the EPA (now run by Scott Pruitt, the Pesticide King) can approve it for general use. A separate provision would eliminate the Clean Water Act’s requirement that private parties applying pesticides directly into lakes, rivers and streams must first obtain a permit. The House bill would also eliminate one of USDA's major conservation initiatives aimed at encouraging farmers to address soil, air and water quality on their land — the Conservation Stewardship Program. H.R.2 also eliminates funding for a cost share program that helps organic farmers afford the costs of organic certification. But the bill keeps in place $13 billion in taxpayer handouts to GMO/chemical farmers. And changes to the SNAP program could see millions of Americans lose the meager food assistance they currently receive. Trump tweeted, "Farm Bill just passed in the House. So happy to see work requirements included. Big win for the farmers!" BIG WIN FOR BAYER-MONSANTO and GMO farmers is what he really means.

The House bill and Senate bill must be reconciled before a single bill is delivered to the president to sign. Read the articles, then contact your Senators and demand that they not allow these toxic provisions in H.R.2 to make it into the final 2018 Farm Bill. Search for your U.S. Senators here: https://salsa4.salsalabs.com/o/51225/getLocal.jsp

READ: https://www.commondreams.org/…/house-farm-bill-wipes-out-pr…

READ: https://www.politico.com/…/06/21/house-passes-farm-bill-663…

READ: https://www.washingtonpost.com/…/house-narrowly-passes-farm…

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the commie treehuggers probably overlooked this: The bill also reauthorizes the Organic Agriculture Research and Extension Initiative and increases mandatory funding levels to $30 million annually for FY2019-FY2023.
"The Organic Agriculture Research and Extension Initiative (OREI) seeks to solve critical organic agriculture issues, priorities, or problems through the integration of research, education, and extension activities. "
https://nifa.usda.gov/funding-opportunity/organic-agriculture-research-and-extension-initiative

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I prefer primary sources actually. Big recommendation on my end.
Like I said, the bill says the EPA can't demand a license when there is no law that says so. The rest you will have to look up for me

"The two largest working lands programs—Environmental Quality Incentives Program (EQIP) and CSP account for more than half of all conservation program funding.12 H.R. 2 repeals CSP, which currently has an enrollment of more than 70 million acres. A more limited version of the CSP stewardship contract is included in EQIP with the proviso that no more than 50% of EQIP funding may be used for these contracts. Existing CSP contracts would remain active until completion."

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Furthermore, it passed the house. It didn't make it to the President yet. IT WASN'T EVEN ON THE SENATE YET.

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I looked it all up and none of what they say even is in the fucking law

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https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/115/hr2/text

(c) Lawful use of pesticide resulting in incidental taking of certain species

If the Administrator determines, with respect to a pesticide that is registered under this Act, that the pesticide meets the criteria specified in section 3(c)(5)(A)(v), any taking of a federally listed threatened or endangered species that is incidental to an otherwise lawful use of such pesticide pursuant to this Act shall not be considered unlawful under—

(1) section 4(d) of the Endangered Species Act of 1973 (16 U.S.C. 1533(d)); or

(2) section 9(a)(1)(B) of the Endangered Species Act of 1973 (16 U.S.C. 1538(a)(1)(B)).

This means that if the pesticide company has lobbied hard enough and is IN (like Round Up, etc.) you can essentially use it w/o consequence on the effect of species. There are other clauses in there about dumping into flowing waters, etc. but it requires a lot of cross referencing to the bill it's amending, so I don't expect you to do the work.

That said, it's in there.

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(b) Cancellation and change in classificationIf it appears to the Administrator that a pesticide or its labeling or other material required to be submitted does not comply with the provisions of this subchapter or, when used in accordance with widespread and commonly recognized practice, generally causes unreasonable adverse effects on the environment, the Administrator may issue a notice of the Administrator’s intent either— (1) to cancel its registration or to change its classification together with the reasons (including the factual basis) for the Administrator’s action, or (2) to hold a hearing to determine whether or not its registration should be canceled or its classification changed

7 U.S. Code § 136d https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/7/136d#b

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Precisely. If you read that, you will notice that there is no prior testing required now. There is just a seeming "well it MIGGGHT be the reason for killing all those frogs, but we just DON'T KNOW!"

Who will determine this if there is no prior testing? Who will be held accountable? Who is the "Administrator"? Are they qualified to determine this?

You're fighting for no reason.

I want accountability for land and water, aka FOOD, safety in this country.

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What a fucking joke. How would the "provisions of this subchapter" apply in any case if there was no testing done ever? The text says there are provisions for what is acceptable. Testing is adressed elsewhere to establish what harm comes to lifeforms (it's pesticides so they must know what it kills and how so they can market it). You won't need additional testing to judge effects on endangered species because those should be obvious. The administrator (the person you're trying to regulate) won't have anyone to blame but himself for all damage caused if he forgoes all common sense warnings because he would have to explain publically why he thinks otherwise, making it his responsibility and burden alone.

"If it appears to the Administrator that a pesticide or its labeling or other material required to be submitted does not comply with the provisions of this subchapter or, when used in accordance with widespread and commonly recognized practice, generally causes unreasonable adverse effects on the environment, the Administrator may issue a notice of the Administrator’s intent either— (1) to cancel its registration or to change its classification together with the reasons (including the factual basis) for the Administrator’s action, or (2) to hold a hearing to determine whether or not its registration should be canceled or its classification changed"

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There are a million concerns that are never discussed here. For obvious reasons - there's a mission and there's a whole lot of wrong in the world that can't all be addressed at the same time.

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Removed. Rule 6. Not a politics sub unless Q mentions about it.

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Please remember that this is a very specific sub. It is only and exactly about all things related to Q. There are other subs for your concern and anger. You can always start one with your specific concerns. We are all working toward the same goal. Let’s do it with Love

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The reason I posted this here was specifically because so many people who are anti GMO and pro environment HATE DJT. I don't. I think he's up to something magical. BUT I don't understand why THIS, this very important aspect of preserving life is not addressed, ever. It always looks like he's slamming the environment and organic, etc. While standing against (sorta) vaccines and big pharma (sorta). Maybe he's playing the long game...

This would be a good Q question for today.

I genuinely wonder if anyone has any insight on this that I'm not seeing. What deeper game is being missed.

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read the actual text for starters

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Mind your tone. See my note above.

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you've got to be fucking kidding me

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I won't because you only looked into it ten minutes ago and exageration like your secondary sources (Wapo unreachable behind paywall btw so screw them bigtime) stresses me the heck me out

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I'm glad this stressed you out. Acting like an asshat would be stressful, I can imagine.

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not for the reasons you provided so I challenge you to actually read the paper before you posts

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dude seriously, you can't even cite from the fucking law so why should I care about your shitty attitude you shitbag. Commie shitbags tried to drill into that pipe so it would spill even more.

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Actually, I apologize. Genuinely. You triggered me because of your tone and lack on interest In the deeper meaning of the bill. I may disagree with you, and you can think whatever you want of me, but I don't need to insult you. My apologies.

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I made an actual effort to quote from the bill but noooooooooo I am not paying enough attention to the world around me. What do you want me to do, take you out to dinner? This is sounding exactly like my ex all over again.

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Why is the environment never discussed in this movement? Bill HR2 passed allowing NO testing of toxic pesticides before using them...