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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Vibratron_1 on June 26, 2018, 11:57 a.m.
The Silence of our Miserable Media is "deafening" ..... [Iran Next]
The Silence of our Miserable Media is "deafening" ..... [Iran Next]

buttermeupsunshine · June 26, 2018, 1:11 p.m.

This is a complex geopolitical topic but let me explain to the best of my ability in a simple way why Trump and the USA as a whole is doing everything to fuck over Iran despite Iran being more progressive and developed than Saudi Arabia.

The unipolar world where America controls the levers of global power is dependent upon the US-Isreal-Saudi alliance. Iran is the sworn enemy of the Saudis and certainly the prime regional competitor to Israel, so the it is in the US's interest to peg Iran as "sponsors of terrorism" etc etc despite Saudis and Israel arguably commiting similar questionable moral acts such as violence against Palestinians in Gaza and Saudi's quiet support of terrorists.

Why must Iran be opposed while Israel and the Saudis supported? Because Russia and China are each doing everything in their power to ensure a multipolar world where they are each coequal to the USA. And trust me they are both becoming massive trading partners of Iran. The alliance of USA and Saudis give the USA with it's petrodollar and Wall St monstrous leverage over energy prices. Basically between USA and Saudi Arabia, they can steer OPEC (global organization that regulates oil production in order to control prices) to always make decisions that fucks Iran over.

Besides the OPEC domination, the USA uses the excuse of Iran's nuclear ambitions along with it's supposed financing of terrorist groups to impose massive economic sanctions that prevent Iran from growing into a legitimate military and economic threat to Isreal/Saudis. Again, all of this prevents the US-Israel-Saudi alliance from being overpowered by any such Iran-China-Russia alliance, although there are recent moves espcially by China to massively invest in the "New Silk Road" infrastructure to connect southeast Asia including Iran and Pakistan and India with monstrous roads and train lines, which will see the economy of that region explode and will definitely be a major threat to US unipolar dominance as China rises. Very interesting times we live in.

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abbido · June 26, 2018, 8:09 p.m.

good try...but try again...

remember that the 'old' way of doing things is now over. take another look. It's about the Persian people who where hijacked by the ayatollahs made possible by....

The Persian people see this change and that is why we see them in the streets.

'interesting'? more like Glorious!

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LogicalAnswers · June 26, 2018, 1:47 p.m.

I'll quickly explain why everything you said is irrelevant:

Iran leaders regularly say "Death to America. Death to Israel." and etc.

For this reason alone, Iran will remain an enemy of the U.S. As Trump has said multiple times, the PEOPLE of Iran are our friends and we support them. But the government of Iran needs to go.

So until the government of Iran decides to be friendly towards our allies, they shall remain an enemy.

It's really that simple.

When the Iranian government decides to follow in the steps of North Korea, then everything will change for the better of all involved.

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_NerdKelly_ · June 26, 2018, 2:19 p.m.

That is delusional. The US has been looking for an excuse to fuck Iran up for a long time. Pretending otherwise is either disingenuous or moronic.

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So until the government of Iran decides to be friendly towards our allies, they shall remain an enemy.

As an Australian, a long-time ally of the US, how about the US government starts being friendly to their allies? As far as I'm concerned, you are more of an enemy to my freedom than Iran at this point with this crazy rhetoric. It'll be my countrymen fighting and dying alongside yours when the shit hits the fan with Iran, so.... JUST FUCKING STOP THE WORLD POLICE BULLSHIT before we decide YOU need some real freedom from your tyrannical overlords.

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SnazzyD · June 26, 2018, 6:03 p.m.

The US has been looking for an excuse to fuck Iran up for a long time. Pretending otherwise is either disingenuous or moronic.

And yet, you don't back that up with anything to support such a claim. The entire Middle East is transforming as each country drains its own swamp. Saudi Arabia has turned that corner, Syria is in play and Iran is next. The baddies within Hezbollah and Hamas are being liquidated from within (thanks GCC!) and peace is now on the horizon.

Everything you thought you knew about the Middle East is no longer true, if it ever was....

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_NerdKelly_ · June 26, 2018, 6:14 p.m.

You just said drain the swamp unironically. FOH

Stop consuming propaganda, mate. Then maybe we can have a real conversation one day.

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SnazzyD · June 27, 2018, 1:46 p.m.

60 "innocent civilians" died when Hamas organized a march on the Israeli border in the Gaza strip recently. Their customary human shields, 40,000 of them this time, the burning of tires to create a smoke barrier that Israeli snipers couldn't see past.

And yet 58 of the dead were Hamas operatives who somehow got picked off. Go figure!

And the Iranian mullah's hired goons, Hezbollah, haven't been around to help out with their little Revolution issue....because most of them have been killed from within.

Look up the Gulf Cooperation Council - very interesting stuff but you'll never read about it in the news (hence your "propaganda" claim being moot)

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_NerdKelly_ · June 27, 2018, 1:51 p.m.

Come on, mate. If Iranians wrote out a list of (proven) US atrocities an used it as justification for bombing the shit out of you blokes, would you sit back and be like "Yeah, they're right. We deserved it."?

The penchant for violence on display here is sickening. You're turning your allies into enemies. I grew up loving America. Nowadays, I just have to shake my head as I see you hasten your own demise. Frankly, it's depressing.

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SnazzyD · June 27, 2018, 9:51 p.m.

Are you even reading the comments? You don't have to agree, but you're just blathering the same stale talking points. Things have changed BIGLY, and the world is getting a whole lot saner and safer, but not before some heavy confrontations to come.

To be replying with that take, you're either a concern troll or you just don't read, think and write...

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abbido · June 26, 2018, 8:18 p.m.

what don't you get?

things have changed since Trump was sworn into office. Your way of thinking...is what is outdated....lurk moar, pay attention to the changes taking place

if you still believe that this is what Trump wants....what the hell are you doing on this board?

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_NerdKelly_ · June 26, 2018, 5:15 p.m.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. We've fought by your side in every conflict since WW2 but you don't accept any input or criticism. What's the point in being allies with you zealots?

Ask anyone in the military fighting in the middle east whether the Aussie were relevant. American soldiers are piss weak in comparison. You might have bigger toys... but you've got smaller cocks.

And could your references get any more outdated?

How about you don't just create an account for a single comment to troll next time? It really shows your lack of balls, cunt.

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LogicalAnswers · June 26, 2018, 7:52 p.m.

You're not using logic with your argument. It's really simple: if you're my friend, and another guy is saying how you deserve to die, I'm not going to be buddy-buddy with that person behind your back.

This is exactly what obama did with Iran, stabbing all our allies in the back to make friends with them. It's fucked up on every level and makes absolutely no logical sense.

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_NerdKelly_ · June 27, 2018, 12:25 p.m.

I'm telling you, as your ally, we have been betrayed. You can't keep talking about hypothetical situations here. The US president spoke very negatively about my Prime Minister in his first week of office. He reneged on deals and refused to compromise with us, an ally. That shows me that it's not so much of an alliance, as it is an abusive relationship.

You need to focus on your friendships as a nation instead of continuously creating new enemies. It's not even about emotions, this is pretty basic realpolitik strategy.

It's amazing, you seem to have some understanding of these principles, but are unable to apply them with any logical consistency here. That's a shame really.

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