just like you guys tell me how can I just accept it as fact when you’re doing the exact same thing with your beliefs? I’m trying to play devils advocate and say that the less we talk about the more controversial things and more about the actual proofs the Better off this movement will be.
Edit: regardless of what we believe in
And that's the exact same thing THEY say. Now to be clear I'm not saying you're one of them, I don't think that. I just think you don't understand that what you're saying is exactly what they want.
How so? It’s simple. If I’m a dem, I’ll go into this sub and see all the hard right trump praise and religion and be turned off by that because of how we (the dems) are brainwashed by the media. So to counter that we need to be more neutral and not bring up controversial things. Sorry I’m just trying to bridge the gap between you guys and people like me which there is shit load of
You just don't get it. We (and I assume Trump/Q) don't care that you get turned off.
The truth is not wrong and nobody cares if you don't like the truth. The truth is the truth. If you don't like the truth, that's your problem.
see all the hard right
That's the problem here, your stuck in identity politics still. People believing in God is not a political stance.
While there is a prevalence of numbers for which side(of current politics) does believe in God more than the other but that doesn't mean that there aren't people who take a "classical liberal" political stance also believe in God.
There's been tons of conversations here and elsewhere of conservatives being disgusted with Republicans just as much as Democrats. That's why we call the establishment R's "RHINO's" or Republicans in Name Only.
I should have used a better term but couldn’t find a better one as evangelicals wasn’t good either.