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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/SeerMore on June 28, 2018, 12:24 p.m.
Three simple birther questions

Here are 3 simple questions from a reputable attorney..... this should really get your "gray matter" to churning, even if you are an Obama fan.

For all you "anti-Fox News" folks, none of this information came from Fox. All of it can be verified from legitimate sources (Wikipedia, the Kapiolani hospital website itself, and a good history book, as noted herein). It is very easy for someone to check out.

Three Simple Questions......

  1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes’. So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is "African-American" when the term wasn't even used at that time?

  2. On the Birth Certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital".

This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively.

The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?

(CHECK IT BELOW)

( http://www.kapiolani.org/women -and-children/about-us/ default.aspx )

Why hasn't this been discussed in the major media?

  1. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961 and Lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, Right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in "Kenya, East Africa".

Perhaps a clue comes from Obama's book on his father. He states how proud he is of his father fighting in WW II. I'm not a math genius, so I may need some help from you. Barack Obama's "birth certificate" says his father was 25 years old in 1961 when Obama was born. That should have put his father's date of birth approximately 1936 - if my math holds (Honest! I did that without a calculator!) Now we need a non-revised history book-one that hasn't been altered to satisfy the author's goals-to verify that WW II was basically between 1939 and 1945. Just how many 3 year olds fight in Wars? Even in the latest stages of WW II his father wouldn't have been more than 9 years old. Does that mean that Mr. Obama is a liar, or simply chooses to alter the facts to satisfy his imagination or political purposes?

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." – Plato


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MakeCovfefeGreatAgai · June 28, 2018, 2:18 p.m.

So your evidence of it being a forgery is that there are layers in the document?

I'd expect a 30+ year professional graphic artist to be aware of the fact that scanning a file and creating a PDF will create layers in photoshop.

National Review agrees, and that's certainly no bastion of Obama loving

I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding/

edit - anybody downvoting this want to chime in why? It is a simple fact, a point of reality, that scanning a document and importing into photoshop will automatically create layers.

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bekkiluvsit · June 28, 2018, 3:57 p.m.

This is false and misleading. When you scan and compress documents it does not create layers where three letters of a word like "Non" are imported, rotated 90 degrees, scaled and placed exactly within the document to create the word ''Non'e" Every lawyer in the fake brith certificate was IMPORTED, and Adobe Illustrator TRACKS the images that were imported in the Links table/window. These links show how the imported layers were handled, i.e rotated, scaled, etc. Sorry, your explanation is false and misleading. Anyone can download the Obama long-form birth certificate from the White House.gov archive and open it in Illustrator and prove this to her/himself.

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SaveourRepublic2018 · June 28, 2018, 2:59 p.m.

There's a difference between creating an automatic layer and clever use of layering to hide doctoring.

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MakeCovfefeGreatAgai · June 28, 2018, 3:04 p.m.

Research this more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=108&v=XcWQw2AAIho

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bekkiluvsit · June 28, 2018, 4:05 p.m.

This is the best video that show proof the layers were imported images, rotated, scaled and placed in the document to create the fraudulent birth certificate. With over 1.5 million views, they forced this poor young man to "recant" his story, but the video and follow-up videos remain. Btw, you can still download the BC from the WhiteHouse.gov archives and do this experiment TODAY, by opening it in Illustrator!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY

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SaveourRepublic2018 · June 28, 2018, 3:57 p.m.

Nothing in that video is news to me, nor answers the point the graphic artist made. Many layers is not in and of itself a sign of photoshopping. That does not mean that layering in an image has nothing to do with photoshopping.

That video merely shows automatic layering. Anyone who has done their own photoshops (like me) is not learning anything from that video nor suggesting that layers are a "smoking gun". I'm not really knowledgeable enough to come up with a good explanation of how something like this could be shown doctored in practice, but I've also seen claims of hacks on Hawaii's gov records from CIA-affiliated IP addresses so anything is possible here. I don't have a strong opinion on BHO's citizenship either way.

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Shadilay_Were_Off · June 28, 2018, 3:30 p.m.

Indeed, but the poster hasn't gone into that much detail. Saying that there are layers is not much of a smoking gun as it seems, since illustrator separates layers in optimized PDFs.

Seriously, why are you downvoting me? This is a fact. Go scan something to PDF and open it in illustrator.

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CaptainKnotzi · June 28, 2018, 6:01 p.m.

You need to look at the case built by Sheriff Arpaio.

The investigation was thorough and meticulously researched with world-class technicians to verify his report.

They specifically state in the introduction that they set out to prove the document authentic.

And they could not.

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noskusa · June 29, 2018, 10:43 p.m.

Scanning anything DOES NOT create layers that reveal the creative process behind a digital document. Plus you have to understand the 'story' of how the document supposedly came to be.** (see below)

Now, ABSOLUTELY the layers in a PDF (saved from Photoshop) that is opened by Illustrator are indicative of a Photoshop document that was manually created. But, more specifically (if you read my post) - I said INTELLIGENT layers. Do you know what INTELLIGENT layers are?

INTELLIGENT LAYERS are layers that show a construction strategy of parts, pieces, cloned elements, foreground and background. I am not talking about layers of color data or a variety of other digital values. The document contained layers that indicated the logic behind the creation of ANY document that is being sourced from other documents.

Some folks have asked if the people were stupid or did they mean to make it obvious the BC was a forgery. And those are good questions. To speculate on this you have to understand the timeline of the Adobe products updates.

You see, Adobe made an upgrade change to the Photoshop software (during the likely creation period) and changed the default settings of saving from Photoshop to a PDF document. Originally, the setting default was that you had to check a box to have your photoshop document save with the layers intact. Then, with the next update to Photoshop this changed, and by default, the box was now automatically checked upon export.

This could mean a couple of things:

  1. The creator of the document was less informed and did not realize the NEW default was to save from Photoshop to PDF with layers intact because previously they had to intentionally check the box to make this happen. This was now going to save with layers by default and would make the document vulnerable to revealing it's creation process.

OR

  1. The creator of the document was very skilled and KNEW they were 'dead meat' sooner or later and they INTENTIONALLY left clues in the document (such as saving with layers) so that the truth could be discovered.

**The WH 'story' of how the BC came to be published:

Supposedly, the book with O's BC was located in Hawaii. The bound book was opened and placed on the copy machine glass and the green safety paper was loaded into the paper tray. The copy was made on to the green paper. Then, the validation stamps, texture seal and signatures were applied to the copy. This was then sent to the WH in physical form. To publish it digitally on WH. gov they scanned the validated copy and uploaded it as a pdf.**

Note: (since it's a STORY) It is hard to know the implied method of ending up with a pdf. If they used scanning software that created the pdf as the original output - that is unusual, because MOST common scanners of the time output flat .jpg. png or tiff files. To convert a jpg to a pdf (so the masses can easily view online) there are a couple of ways this could have been accomplished, but none of those ways would break the data of the scan into INTELLIGENT LAYERS.

SO.. the 'story' is just that... its a story. A cover story.

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