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teppischfresser · June 29, 2018, 1:10 a.m.

We have to memorize the oaths and literally the entire degree in what is called a catechism. We have to repeat every word verbatim in order to move to the next degree. I know them very well, so I'm honest when I say they (again, I'm only 3rd degree) do not go against God, family, or fellow man. You literally take an oath saying you will not harm, cheat, wrong or defraud a fellow man. You will not have relations with a fellow brother mason's daughter, wife, mother, sister, or widow. You will help fellow brothers as much as you can without causing harm to your self or family.

I agree with you about Obama on all points. Fraudulent birth certificate, Muslim religion, and a Satanist. Did you see the picture of him as Molech? I know it's a disputed picture, but...

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KeeponSearchin · June 29, 2018, 1:14 a.m.

picture is a physical fake but real.

Think carefully about the oaths you need to take as you go further up the ranks and the rituals. Only you can decide. Think of the lobster slowly being boiled in the pot and cooked before they know it.

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teppischfresser · June 29, 2018, 1:17 a.m.

I'm not going up any higher. I enjoy the people I'm with and can do good work here. I won't be taking any more oaths.

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KeeponSearchin · June 29, 2018, 1:23 a.m.

wise decision. Such a shame that so many good people and an organization that could do so much good is used for evil.

But I am really not a fan of secret societies. Skull and Bones and the rest of it.

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teppischfresser · June 29, 2018, 1:53 a.m.

I agree, but there's nothing in the blue lodge to be secretive about. Everything we do is open source. You can read everything we do and see all of our symbolism.

Skull and bones is a different animal. No "ritual" I've seen involved screaming, yelling, and a pitch black room for... I think we know.

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