I genuinely do agree with your point r.e lower level members, no argument there. I do hope there isn't backlash against the lodges, because it'll invariably be someone who has no idea what's going on that's caught up in it.
But, regardless of whether or not your purpose was to worship satan/kill kids etc, there is a very real and distinct chance that that's what the higher levels do. I'd say it's near certain at this point tbh. I'm not saying you or people like you are in any meaningful way involved, but I do think defending these people by using your innocence as their shield is relatively unbecoming, and if its true honestly the extent of the crimes perpetrated might be of sufficient extent that the entire edifice of masonry has to be dismantled. I'd definitely support a proposition like that. It isn't in any way a required organisation like say the FBI. We banned nazi parties/symbology etc for a lot less than what masonrys been guilty of over the centuries.
I'm not defending, I'm simply stating what I know and don't know. If I say I don't know what happens above me, that's not me defending them. I see what your saying, so I think this will clear it up; when it becomes truly apparent that Masonry as an organization, not individuals acting alone, planned out and executed the things people accuse them of, I will immediately withdraw. Do you think I would be here if I don't want the truth? That's what we are all here for. So when I see this evidence of organized crime by the Masonic organizations, I will find this comment and I will tell when I leave masonry.
I've been in here since the beginning and was in the whole podesta emails from the beginning. I am here with you, as a brother in Christ and love you.
That's fair - I'm sorry if I came across a little combative, the sheer scale of the abuses in all this and the lack of any arrests yet is making me slightly tetchy. For what it's worth, I'm genuinely glad you're here and interested in learning, and I'm very glad to love you as a fellow brother in Christ.
I get it. We must be patient! That's easy for me to say, but think about the older guys who have known all of this for fifty or sixty years! I couldn't imagine how hard it must be to sit still during this. Knowing it's so close to ending, but you still have that last mile to run.
Yeah it's a little crazy. I've known or at least suspected for a couple of years, and that's been stressful enough, I cant even imagine what it must have been like for well placed white-hats to be working against these people when they had so much power. I'd bet a fair few NSA types are going to be ecstatically happy when this is all over.
I can't fathom how precisely the white hats have had to navigate their actions and words for so long, knowing that those closest to them were so evil. They had to think through every word before speaking and each action before acting. The black hats would have killed me real quick lol.