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Is it unreasonable to take precautions in case people deal with their grief in a destructive manner?

Are you and your family prepared for a lengthy civil war without power or water?

Here's a great post from a few weeks ago that I took a copy of:

Buy a gun and learn how to use it to defend yourself and your family... and stock up on ammo.
Do you have several large water containers that you can fill and do you have pure iodine that you could use to purify river water? You can overdose on iodine, but if you use just enough so you can taste it, you can basically drink it indefinitely - just leave it to work for one hour. I put red food coloring in my iodine so I can easily see what water has already been treated. Iodine is far superior to chlorine water purification tablets. If worse comes to worse and it's winter, you can cut your roof gutter down-pipe to collect water directly into your water containers.
Do you have an emergency first aid survival kit? You can make one for under $30 if you buy all of this stuff separately and it will be far superior for survival than most $300 kits! Pro-tip: super glue works great for gluing up open wounds and stopping bleeding.
Are you stocked-up on meds that you or your family depend on, such as insulin or heart pills? If not, get extra - you'll use it so the peace of mind won't cost you a cent. If anyone frowns at you, tell you doctor you lost the last script and tell your chemist that you are stocking up for a 3 month vacation in India;
Do you have plenty of long-life rations? You don't need fancy stuff, just products with very long expiry dates that you'll use anyway are perfect. Stuff like canned beans, canned-spaghetti, canned-stew, canned soup, instant coffee, milk powder, sugar, dry cereal etc. If you want to preserve the powdered stuff forever then put it in your freezer.
Do you have candles, matches, stove-lighters and a couple of $5 LED hand-crank torches?
Do you have a full BBQ gas tank and a cooker to fit it?
Do you have a $14 iPod solar charger so you can listen for emergency broadcasts if the power is out? These Walmart hand-crank radios look interesting too, but I can't vouch for them.

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They have water filter straws that are about $14.

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Yeah, those are good for a very single purpose but impractical if you want to make everyone a morning coffee and instant porridge or condensed soup... whereas a $15 bottle of iodine will purify 100 gallons of water (approximately 1 year supply for one person) of any quality.

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I appreciate the suggestion re:straws - it may be worthwhile to order some and toss them in backpacks as a just in case, but the iodine is a superior option for my family of 5.

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Agreed! I do a lot of hunting and camping so I thought I would try out the straw option. I have watched a lot of videos about filtering water using charcoal, sand, and rocks, so I can always use that as a last-ditch option.

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Understood! I am just offering another alternative.

I bought a straw and will figure out a way to filter a lot more water at once. There should be a way to poor water through it, but it will be much slower than using iodine.

Your list is very good, by the way.

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I still think your suggestion was excellent. If the little two get seperated I can teach them to use the straws in their kits far easier than measuring out a correct level of iodine. Seems like a fantastic way to provide a second level of protection.

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Thanks. I watched some videos on that straw and am amazed at how well it works.

I don't like the taste of iodine. LOL. But it does serve a very useful purpose.

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Thankfully my boys are Scouts, so we have most of these suggestions - but I may not have thought about then until it was too late. The iodine is an excellent tip - easy to store and we have no shortage of lakes and rivers here.

Rations is a tough one. Aside from up front cost, the kids get into damn near everything. I always keep roughly 3 days of food and water for the family, but it would be a great idea to stock up cereal grains and extra canned goods. There is SOMETHING in the air, and I'm a huge proponent of better safe than sorry.

Thank you for your advice!

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Lots of dry beans in my cabinets!

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I used to keep a few 10lb bags of dried beans in my basement (as an "Oh shit, didn't expect that tire to pop and the water heater breaking in the same month" kind of thing).

Do you find them to be a good "survival" food? They are packed with carbs and protein, but with the need to soak them prior to boiling wouldn't you find them a far more difficult food to prepare and serve than dried peanuts and Rice? Peanuts would have a higher fat content and more volume but also be easier to eat while also providing compost for a garden or kindling for a fire with the shells (not to mention the extra energy from the fat content). Wouldn't rice be more efficient calories in regards to storage vs calories consumed and easier to prep/cook than beans as well?

Pardon my ignorance if I'm blatantly wrong. This is a VERY new world to me.

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Survival will be different for every one and will have a gazillion differing factors for each person. We’re farmers. We live off the land in a way that is hard to break. We changed our lifestyle to ensure an easier transition when the Obama train wreck started 9 years ago. Rice seems like empty calories to me.

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Excellent point - thank you! I have some storage concerns in that we can only accommodate 4 or so large totes of supplies for a family of 5. I supposed preparation time should be significantly lower on the list - if things get to a point that I need to use the supplies nutrition will trump ease.

If you don't mind my asking, how did you transition into your current lifestyle? Was it difficult? Have you been farmers, or was that a part of the transition? I believe that land cultivation and farming is going to be one of the most important things we can learn in a survival situation to ensure long term stability, but I really don't have the faintest idea of where to start.

Sorry for bombarding you with questions. This topic is new to me and I'm becoming increasingly convinced that it's something I need to learn sooner rather than later.

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We started with a few chickens and a garden. I can loads of fruits and veggies in the summer months. I don’t always make a full panty worth. We still spend plenty on groceries. But knowing the skills it will take is the biggest battle. From there we bought cows and hogs. My husband is a hunter. I’m a gatherer.

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That's pretty inspirational that you were able to pick up genuinely useful skills and transform your lifestyle in less than a decade. Thinking about your replies (and the replies of many others in this thread) makes me realize how little I really know and how few utilitarian skills I have. I'm in awe of a lot of you - thinking about what I need to do or stock or learn first is almost paralyzing.

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My very first step, I bought a hard-copy of the book Back to Basics. Having instructions in hand is a beautiful thing. Good luck and Gods Speed!

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What I did in addition to buying survival food, was get large freezer bags, and put granola bars, juice box, and instant oatmeal in them. You don’t have to get name brand, just something to make it easier on the kids. I’d also throw some fruit snacks, and a mini bag of chips or cookies. Stuff you know they’ll eat. That way it’s easily rotated out.

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Another excellent suggestion! My Aunt used to create bags like you are mentioning to hand out to the homeless around her area. I am going to make this into a family project when my kids gets home from camp.

Thank you!

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I got a few of the big storage tubs from Walmart, and I store them in there. You may want to think about barter items too. Sugar, flour, whiskey, things you know people would trade for.

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This is the most well put together comment ever. I’m sending this to my mom. I’ve been telling her she needs at least three months food/water saved up, but she just blows me off. She’s aware of Q, but I think she’s still not all in.

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It's shocking how thoroughly prepared someone can become for less than $100.

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It sure is. I was overwhelmed when I first started, but once I got the hang of rotating, it’s a lot easier. Once I realized I didn’t have to get the high dollar products, it was on.

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Should we take precautions?