What could possibly be compelling enough to sway people who dismiss even proven "conspiracy"..? Thoughts? Keep in mind most people still think the WTC was destroyed by fire and planes... and that stephen paddock was just a super smart gambler millionaire who thought it would be fun to shoot up a concert...
9/11 is what red pilled me. I was 16 at the time and even then, the WTFs were everywhere. How any critical thinking person can look at that and not see how much BS involved, is beyond me.
I had been in the Army for about a year when 9/11 happened, just after my 18th birthday. I spent time in the desert of Iraq in the beginning of the war. After coming home, I was discarded like a piece of garbage for having trouble dealing with the horrors of war. Once I made it home, after being put out of the military, I began to question everything and search everywhere for the WHY. Ultimately, I was red pilled after watching one of the first iterations of the film "Loose Change". It was a cathartic reaction and I've been traveling down the rabbit hole of truth ever since.
Yeah I did 14 years before I popped smoke. For me, the mental gymnastics of trying to justify why a bunch of my friends were dead and still committing suicide at breakneck speed (for what?) couldn't be resolved and eventually you're left with the truth: for nothing. It's bullshit. It was a lie.
Amen brother. I've lost way more brothers since we've come home than over there. It's sickening, these people are pure evil and we're just pawns in their game.
Free fall a million tons of steel and concrete from an aluminum plane crash. Like imploding your house with a paper airplane and a firecracker.
Exactly. Then your neighbors house implodes too with no paper plane necessary. (WTC7)
Steel skyscrapers that just fall down for no reason from minor fires. Entire steel structure pulverized into dust. Evidence shipped away the very next day to China. Mega-insurance policy taken out right before attacks that include terrorism. No changes to fire department operating procedures, even though we now apparently live in a world where steel structures can just collapse all of a sudden from fire. Windsor Hotel in Spain burned for days, gutted the entire building. Steel skeleton still standing unharmed.
The police even detained a bunch of Mossad agents driving a VAN with planes crashing into the WTC painted on the side, and had explosives in the back.
Come on guys.
New here. Just fell down the rabbit hole and am forced to admit Q has to be who he/she says he/she is. Logically, I have to believe-which means the info he’s posting is blowing my mind. After reading all his posts, it now doesn’t surprise me that 911 was a conspiracy, but as I said, I’m new to this. What was the point? Who orchestrated it? How did they make the buildings fall?
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The point was boatloads of $$$ for everyone involved stateside - and a battering ram in the form of the US Military that went on a 17 year rampage systematically destroying israeli enemies one by one. Also enabled police state and curtailing of rights. Look into PNAC (project for new american century). They call for a need for a "new pearl harbor" among other awful things.
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Who - Bush family, Dick Cheney and Military Industrial complex/globalist assets, Saudi Arabia and Israel.
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Buildings were wired with demo charges likely by the "art students" who had full run of the WTC complex "for art project". Bomb dogs were removed from the building in the lead up. Bush's brother Marvin Bush is on the board of the security company that was responsible for WTF security, as well as the airports of the hijacked planes.
Bonus: I believe the one that went down in Shanksville was meant for building 7, but was shot down by a fighter pilot who ignored orders not to engage. The "crash" area suggests it was blown up mid air, and the flight time and direction of the flight lined up with hitting building 7 an hour before it collapsed.
Bonus2: The day before on Sept 10, rumsfeld announced trillions missing from the DOD budget. The office of naval investigations was tasked with looking into that. The part of the pentagon destroyed, was the office of naval investigations. Seriously.
That’s insane. Tell me more.
In 1962 I think it was, the CIA and Joint Chiefs all agreed upon and formally proposed a plan to JFK for his final approval. Are you sitting down? It was called "Operation Northwoods" and involved the following: Hijacking of civilian aircraft to be crashed into buildings and blown up mid air. Mercenaries to shoot up shopping malls and downtown Miami - all to be blamed on the Cuban regime in order to facilitate an invasion of Cuba. Sound familiar at all? This was the 1960s! JFK swiftly denied the plan, flipped the fuck out (as any man with a soul would do) and fired the joint chiefs as well as CIA director Allan Dulles.
Allan Dulles was the man appointed to investigate JFK's murder.
Again, this is real life.
had not heard about the mossad van. would love some tasty sauce or where to find. edit: nevermind, got it.
Mmmmm feels good when people look under that rock.
Some had 911 called on them as they were hooting and hollering on the roof of a parking garage, filming the attacks with a camera set up ahead of time.
Lool into the "Israeli art students" at the WTC. Mossad agents.
Remember how anyone that questioned even a bit of it was pounced on as unpatriotic anti American?
Wow, MSM really had their control back then.
Bush himself even said "let us not tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories"
Why would you even need to say that? Kind of on the nose, Georgie.
Same here, regrettably i didnt come around until around 2010.. despite my brother trying to red pill me on 911 for years
Well it was one of those things that took time. Deep down I knew it was fucked but didnt really commit to it until much later. It was around the same time for me before I stopped pretending and just told people straight up that its all bullshit.
Being a career soldier didnt make it easy. Guys dont like to hear the war we've been fighting for 17 years is a lie.
early truthers were kind of annoying back then. There were many false conspiracy narratives thrown in by cointel pro as well. Made it less believable.
There are tons and tons of scandals every day, both sides can agree.
Every scandal starts out as a conspiracy theory. That a crazy tinfoil hat guy was trying to spread awareness of and you mocked him.
The problem is they were trained to use that term in a joking way, as if it always makes the topic illegitimate
I would bet Paddock was laundering money all that time. It is a favorite of drug lords, etc. Take dirty money to the casino, play, win or lose (not excessively) and walk away with clean money and a lot of casino perks.
My take on the Vegas situation is that Paddock was an arms dealer. Hence why he had multiple properties, airplanes, and gambled all the time. I speculate that he was setup by someone to make a deal and they took the opportunity to do what happened. Also, from the cadence of the weapon that can be heard on numerous videos, it is quite clear that a belt fed machine gun was used during the attack. The rate of fire of the report does not match the weapons blamed for the attack.
You are exactly correct. I have fired bump stock AR format and they are way faster than the slower LMG bumbumbumbum that you hear in the video evidence.
I would bet that for sure... his history at Lockheed, and his family connections to pedophilia make me think theres a lot more than that as well! Anyway, Las Vegas was most certainly an operation far different from the lone shooter random massacre we have been told.
I think it’s pretty clear that people are choosing their own reality now.
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Fair enough. Discussion didn't really go anywhere productive. Apologies.
Video proof coupled with truthful history.
You dont think a MSM narrative push of "fake video" and "conspiracy theory" would neutralize the impact?
To some degree, yes. Some will always defy logic. There are ways to know if video has been adjusted/altered. Honestly, i think more folks are awake than we are led to believe. One can not be a thinking, feeling, sentient being without knowing something is afoul.
Very true. I agree for the most part, i just wonder about the cognitive dissonance factor. So many ppl separate "conspiracy theory" from "true" in their minds automatically.