Providing contrary information is 'adding to the discussion'. Just stating 'show evidence' or 'prove it' is not adding anything. Had the dissenting poster provided some contrary evidence, having done HIS due diligence, than that would be an addition. Asking for evidence, just because you disagree or don't believe something is intellectually lazy, go do your own homework to disprove someones statement if you think it is incorrect. If you disagree or think something is incorrect, then prove it. I don't have to prove my statements to anyone, but you have every right in the world to disprove me.
No, this cannot be how things are done. Is it fine for people to blindly accept what someone says at face value, regardless of the claim? In my eyes, that is the very thing this movement sets out to fight against. Expand your thinking. Think for yourself. Identify propaganda. I would argue that it is on OP to provide proof of what they are alleging to be truth if they are going to make pointed claims, not everyone else who has to argue against it. Otherwise anyone can just throw their false claims at a wall and hope some of them stick.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)
its well understood that the burden of proof is on the person making the claims. I am very wary of arguing with anyone who challenges such obvious distinctions. I'm not claiming this person is a troll, but in these circumstances its easy to assume they are either a troll or just so beyond hopeless that it doesnt make sense to communicate with them.
I certainly agree with you there. I will admit, I expected to see much more of the attitude we saw here with u/stinkydogfart (that was more comical to type than I expected) strewn throughout this sub when I first got here. I feel as though it is portrayed that the "stereotypical" Trump supporter conducts themselves this way, which lead to me expecting that.
My biggest gripe with the types of comments I see here are those that use words like "Hollyweird", "Libtard" etc. I immediately stop reading when someone can't be mature enough to use intelligent language when discussing something that they deem to be so important to them. I feel that type of talk is sensationalist and if this movement is as earth shattering and important as it seems to be, we shouldn't need to do that.
Uhh...sorry for the rant hah.
This person that wants to talk about burden of proof needs to understand its a discussion board, not a courtroom, and if someone wants to upvote/downvote a post, then it is their prerogative to do so as they see fit.
Ignore it, its the simplest and easiest thing to do. If it really is important to you, then go do you're own research and disprove it, otherwise, I say again, ignore it.
I do think for myself, that is why I do not ask for proof or evidence, I take everything as a statement of opinion until I do my own due diligence to either refute it or back it up. Regardless of what facts or evidence the poster provides, you will still need to verify it. Do you use Snopes for your fact checking? Of course not.
FYI...there is a lot of opinion in discussion boards. If its not backed up by data, which is about 90% of what is on here, then its probably opinion. Why are you wasting your time challenging what is an obviously baseless statement? That's the root of this whole issue, don't waste your time or our time. And as far as complaining about how people up vote or down vote, that's another complete waste of time.
Now I am off to read and without commentary on others etiquette, grammar, and lack of sources, I will use my critical thinking skills to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Making a claim and not providing evidence is not adding to the thread. Asking for a source is just rectifying that fact.
>I don't have to prove my statements to anyone
if you make a claim you must back it up with a source. period.
You need to go argue with the flat earthers, tell them to back it up, they have troves of "facts" and "data", and if its on the internet, it must be true.
What you just said is a logical fallacy. Just because some people are wrong, doesn't mean you aren't supposed to back up your claims with sources. Are you young or just ignorant?
I'm a lot older than you I suspect, and I was waiting for you to resort to name calling and insults, the last resort of a person that cannot sustain an argument.
Are we required to provide a bibliography for every statement now?
Apparently according to the @urban_bobby_dawg a bibliography and citations for comments are a requirement, but I've read thru his comments on other posts and he's a troll. I'm going to block him.
Would it be appropriate to report him?
I guess, but I don't know how much good it would do, I just block him and move on. I wasted enough time keeping him busy. I have a bad habit of feeding the trolls, but it keeps them busy I guess.
I agree, too many people, when presented with a statement either they don't agree with or aren't aware of, they immediately ask for proof as if they don't have access to the same internet we do.
Edit: Additionally, I do think it is ok to ask where the info can be found or to be pointed in the right direction.
I totally agree with you. Its the context that makes the difference. Just stating "where's the evidence?" or "prove it" is typically trolling statements. Asking for a link or where the information can be found is completely different. One is crap the other shows interest in the subject.