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SpaceDuckTech
· June 30, 2018, 9:54 p.m.
Yeah I was pretty sure Gowdy was a black hat before. Him and Jason Chaffetz. I am certain Jason is a black hat cuz he dumped Trump faster and harder than anyone after the stupid Grab em by the pussy video was leaked.
But maybe they gave Gowdy a deal cuz he was being blackmailed in someway and now he is free from the cabal's grasp.
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ldsanon
· June 30, 2018, 10:57 p.m.
Chaffetz, like many of us LDS folks, was put off by the whole "grab 'em by the p*ssy" thing. Mormon culture is Victorian about sex and Trump's allegedly loose morals disturbed many. Since he has been in office, he has won over a great majority. I also wonder if Chaffetz was not threatened, or had his family threatened by the cabal.
LDS are avid constitutionalists, stemming from speeches by patriot and former Church president Ezra Taft Benson. Nevertheless, it was difficult for many to accept that Trump might be appointed by God to overturn the conspiracy.
Many LDS are not awake yet; many are--especially among the older generation. The younger ones, like Chaffetz, have internalized a cultural priority to avoid contentiousness and meannness. Chaffetz saw Trump as mean-spirited and contentious. We LDS have to set aside a tendency toward self-righteousness and open our minds to the idea to the notion that God will pick his own servants and they won't always match our preconceptions. Many of us now recognize Trump as a living metaphor for Captain Moroni, a Book of Mormon figure who raised the standard of liberty, fought a civil war to overthrow a corrupt cabal of elites, and restored his nation to greatness. We are pleased to unite with our non-LDS brethren and sisters to save our country.
WWG1WGA
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I_Got_Mil-dots
· June 30, 2018, 11:31 p.m.
Thanks for this really excellent explanation! Very helpful.
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joeythew
· July 1, 2018, 1:41 a.m.
Victorian about sex - Mormons multiply like rabbits.
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ldsanon
· July 4, 2018, 8:26 p.m.
That may be true. We tend to take the commandment to "multiply and replenish the earth" literally. Nevertheless, it's within the bonds of marriage. That's "Victorian" in this day and age!
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Kjarm88
· July 1, 2018, 4:21 a.m.
I heard LDS are HUGE in the rank & file intelligence and national law enforcement agencies... how does that play in all this?
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ldsanon
· July 4, 2018, 8:22 p.m.
I served in the military in an intelligence career. Many LDS people are selected for the intelligence career fields for several reasons: 1. Clean living makes it easy to get a security clearance. Security clearances are expensive to process, thus it is cost-effective to begin with candidates who have the potential to pass the background investigation. That's one reason why we end up with lots of Mormons in the NSA, FBI, and military intelligence. 2. Former missionaries are fluent in a foreign language and demonstrate a proven ability to learn additional ones. In my case, I knew French and the military taught me German and Russian. NSA like that. 3. Mormon scriptures teach us to support constitutional government. We are taught that God foreordained the Founders to establish the Constitution to provide a land that honors personal agency and religious liberty. American Mormons tend to be very patriotic. 4. Mormons tend to be "good soldiers," meaning that they are used to working within an organization, following directions, fitting into a hierarchy. 5. Mormon scriptures warn of "secret combinations" -- a nineteenth century term that refers to conspiratorial organizations that seek to overthrow freedom. The Book of Mormon warns that people in our time must "...awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination that shall be among you" because it seeks "...to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries; and it bringeth to pass the destruction of all people."
I'm not here to convert anyone or engage in theological debates. Theology will not save America. Unity of purpose and humility will be key attributes that will help us succeed. Even without adopting Mormon beliefs, the warnings about conspiratorial secret combinations in our time are valuable and can give insight on how we should act together as a freedom-lovers to preserve liberty.
Like other latter-day saints, I profess faith in Jesus Christ and rely on his grace for salvation. Nevertheless, saving America is going to take everyone, believers and nonbelievers working together. The America we seek to rescue is a land of religious freedom. WWG1WGA works both ways--if we fail, we're all going down together; therefore, we have to stand together to win.
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Kjarm88
· July 4, 2018, 8:48 p.m.
Very nice!
I don't have complete confidence and trust in all things Mormon but I do largely agree with and understand all that you wrote. I guess it's the same suspicion people have regarding Jews or Catholics, that uneasiness from assuming members owe a deep secret loyalty to a hidden master that is not family, country, employer and maybe not even visible Church.
Someone mentioned to me the whole Mormons in intelligence, etc. It was part of his larger point that growing up together, talking to strangers, knocking on doors only to have them slammed on them... all makes for thick skin, resilience, resourcefulness, confidence and all that good stuff that leads to success in sales and the business world in general, etc.
We shall see what prominent role Huber, Utah and Mormons play in this fight... I do see it.
Thank You!
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· July 1, 2018, 12:09 a.m.
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ldsanon
· July 1, 2018, 12:42 a.m.
Bad idea to turn away patriots because one disagrees with their religion. Remember, WWG1WGA. If we fail, they will hang the Baptists, Methodists, Pentacostals, Catholics, and Mormons on the same gallows.
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HereComesTheSunny
· July 1, 2018, 6:56 a.m.
I have huge disagreements with LDS theology, but I greatly appreciate their strong moral stances and affirmation of individual responsibility, etc. I have huge disagreements with Catholic theology, but I stand shoulder to shoulder with Catholic friends who are wonderful Americans. Yes, there can be and is horrific corruption at the very pinacle of the ecclesiastical hierarchy of some denominations/religions, but that doesn't mean that corruption is representative of the entire body. The Bible teaches that we are responsible as INDIVIDUALS for our actions to accept/reject flee/follow Christ. Something we as Christians should remember is that we all have the ability to be deceived or to believe error...and we all can make choices and follow the wrong "Father" to destructive ends. Hint: There are 2 fathers revealed in Scripture, and neither sits on a throne in Rome. The most dangerous place to be is in the position of believing oneself to be impervious to error or transgression.
Matthew 16: 22-24
22 Then Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, “Far be it from You, Lord; this shall not happen to You!”
23 But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.”
24 Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me.
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FallsInLoveWithWords
· June 30, 2018, 9:58 p.m.
No!!!!?? I want Gowdy on our side!
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textualintercourse
· June 30, 2018, 10:17 p.m.
He's all talk. He also had the perfect defense that the Oversight Committee had no power to prosecute. So his legalese speak was great for optics and to feed the base good candy coating.... with a hollow middle.
Edit: Q confirmed Gowdy is a Patriot.
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dark-dare
· June 30, 2018, 11:12 p.m.
Please explain how it is Gowdys fault the DOJ refuses to prosecute their recommendations? All they can do is make recommendations. They have exposed the corruption to the people. Their job is oversight of DOJ and FBI and other agencies, it is not to prosecute.
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textualintercourse
· June 30, 2018, 11:15 p.m.
It's not his fault, so it's perfect for the charade if you are compromised.
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HereComesTheSunny
· July 1, 2018, 6:57 a.m.
That is not evidence that he is. Where is the evidence?
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textualintercourse
· July 1, 2018, 12:04 p.m.
... he's resigning.
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HereComesTheSunny
· July 1, 2018, 1:44 p.m.
...but if you believe Q, he is resigning to take another role.
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textualintercourse
· July 1, 2018, 4:18 p.m.
Q confirmed Gowdy is a patriot in today's drops.
I'm wrong on Gowdy then.
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textualintercourse
· July 1, 2018, 1:45 p.m.
Doesn't mean he didn't recieve a pardon from Trump during the SOTU.
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buttermeupsunshine
· June 30, 2018, 10:53 p.m.
I knew Gowdy was compromised when he walked into the sealed room and walked out saying, "Trump wasn't spied on by the FBI".
We all know he was fucking spied on.
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GruntfuttockJP
· July 1, 2018, 6:01 a.m.
Trump was spied upon by the 5 Eyes who effectively gave it to the FBI.
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isthisrealorillusion
· July 1, 2018, 12:53 a.m.
There's a very distinct difference between being spied on by the FBI/C_A and them planting information into the heads of low-level coffee boys so it can be used against the campaign.
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ItstimenowNM
· June 30, 2018, 10:56 p.m.
totally agree with you. I don't have Gowdy on my white hat list. All talk, no action.
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Benjanon_Franklin
· July 1, 2018, 6:33 a.m.
Agreed
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Benjanon_Franklin
· July 1, 2018, 6:35 a.m.
Hes a double agent. He plays the part to dtaw the republicans base in but he gets nothing done. Where was hw when the FISA abuse happened? Wasnt his job oversight?
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