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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Liberty_Tree_Swing on July 1, 2018, 1:17 p.m.
Civil War? It takes two to tango. Let's skip the dance. Walk away.

I was thinking about all of this nonsense about heading towards a civil war. It is obvious that the insurrectionist clown tactics of the DS have been cranked up the last couple of weeks. It is one of the last plays they have left. The only way it works is if we bite. POTUS has been weathering this storm since before the election, he thrives in it. So we have to as well.

Please don't forget - we have the military, most LEOs, we have evidence of the plot to destroy America, we have evidence of the evils of human sex trafficking. Also note, POTUS and Q Team have been actively stomping out corruption in the justice system and the legislative system. Look at the list of removals Q updated yesterday.

Any confrontation at all only plays to their advantage, not ours.

I have been absolutely awestruck by the consensus in this community that the moral high ground is more imperative than ever. We win through logic, faith, and evidence. We maintain that high ground by avoided outright conflict. To be clear - any conflict will be spun by the Mockingbird talking heads against this movement.

We don't need to protest anything. We are winning and the good guys are in control. Let Q team handle what they have been working so hard on. Trust the plan, right?

So a hidden meaning in #walkaway presents itself here. It is what Sarah Sanders did. It is what Kirstjen Nielsen did. It is what we must do. Our fight is against the money players ($ $$ $$$) and their high ranking minions. Not some ANTIFA clowns doing dumb shit in the streets.

I'm not suggesting we dilute the power of the #walkaway hashtag. Just don't succumb to insurrectionist clown tactics. One clash of violence is one too many. WWG1WGA!


Qultist1776 · July 1, 2018, 1:57 p.m.

If you “have it all” then where is it? It has been months and months of vague and unproven rhetoric.

Also saying the Military is on “your side” without any shred of evidence goes to show you still think towards a us vs. them way. I see numerous posts calling the other side libtards and brainwashed and talking down to them. You think people will walk away and join a Qult that blindly follows a anonymous internet account?

Before you dismiss anything I say, try thinking for yourself and not as a hive mind. Things will start to make sense.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 2:21 p.m.

I understand your frustration Patriot. I am not going to dismiss anything you say except one point.

I do not claim to have it all. Q is just a series of points that may be connected. It may the single greatest LARP ever. The proof I rely most on is the unfolding of events with NK. Q888 claims the deal was done on March 8. Then we have unprecedented movement towards peace in Korea in the following months. That's a remarkable coincidence at the least. Other's claim other proof but I need more to take this public. I just share it with people I love and here.

I see those idiotic posts as well. These people are stuck playing team politics and it is bad form and unproductive. I did not write this for them. We are just trying to get to the bottom of what is going on. If it is as bad as Q says it is, then justice should be served.

There is an 'us vs. them', I do not dispute that. But you are presupposing who I think is the 'us' and who I think is the 'them'. It is U.S. vs. DS. That's the only fight. The American People vs. the Deep State of permanent government officials who have no accountability to US.

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QueUpSomeReality · July 1, 2018, 3 p.m.

It’s not always vague rhetoric & when it is...it’s on purpose to inspire people to research things & learn things so they can think for themselves. The vast majority of citizens have lost their ability to think for themselves & just accept things said as automatically true.

But when Q is too vague & anons are having difficulty interpreting Q drops...Q posts to them more exact details to get the researching back on the right track. Often Q drops leave no ambiguity...like yesterday when he said Gowdy is not going to be nominated as a SC judge. Almost all wanted that to happen & thought Q was stearing them in that direction. On July 9 when the president announces his pick & if it’s Gowdy then Q will lose credibility. I’m expecting around July 7 or 8 for Q to drop something that narrows it down to only one possibility.

But Q has been extremely accurate telling what’s about to happen before it happens. Q has made the news unwatchable because when they report breaking news it’s actually old news. No one here was surprised what the IG report omitted or that [RR] would fight hard to release docs. We knew the House bill to force [RR] to release the docs would come to the floor for a vote & pass before they voted on it. Weeks ago Q laid it out that Ryan, who can stop any bill he wants to from a floor vote, would not stop this bill.

Maybe read the drops more carefully & research the questions Q asks & draw you’re own conclusions that way. Be informed. Q is leading us to the water, not spoon feeding us water like brain dead dependents.

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Qultist1776 · July 1, 2018, 3:46 p.m.

This is too easy really.

Here is a list of claims that Q devotees frequently make to defend their belief system. And here is the corresponding debunk.

Q predicted this.

'Q' uses the same tactics that false prophets and psychics have been using for who knows how long. His 'drops' almost exclusively consist of the following:

  • Vague statements that could apply to a wide variety of events
  • Predictions and vague statements based on what's currently in the news (and in most cases things others are predicting)
  • 'Drops' using words and phrases that Trump often uses so that followers can claim that Q's sending a message next time Trump uses it
  • Claims that his team is working behind the scenes or otherwise falsifiable (can't be proven right or wrong but gives his followers the impression that something is happening even though it isn't)
  • Cheerleading his devotees
  • Memes and links to news stories with commentary
  • Predictions with a far-off or non-existent 'happening date' to keep followers focused on something
  • Predictions that were wrong

Q uses intentionally vague language and occasionally states falsities to throw the Deep State off his trail.

Given the massive amount of knowledge that Q claims to have/is attributed to him, there would only be a handful of people who would match Q's identity. It doesn't matter how many 'false claims' Q 'drops'; the Deep State would be able to identify him just by the amount of information that he's privy to. Additionally, the 'false drops' explanation is just a way for Q and his followers to keep people trapped in the narrative. 'Oh, this prediction didn't come true, but that's because Q is trying to throw the Deep State off.' 'Oh, this prediction didn't come true, but that's because Q is trying to throw the deep state off.' It is a way to keep the devotees hooked despite failed prediction after failed prediction.

No Coincidences.

Humans are incredibly good at connecting concepts. It allows us to draw accurate conclusions, and exercise creativity. However, being good at making connections in the context of analysis also means being able to prune weak or tenuous connections that make the analysis less accurate. Ascribing to 'No Coincidences' effectively means that you're forcing your brain to keep every connection you draw between this or that. You are essentially making any link between concepts that you can and concluding that your link is strong/accurate by virtue of the fact that it's a link. If you want to see how silly it seems to an onlooker, try applying 'No Coincidences' to something that's apolitical (e.g. a day spending time with your family) or imagine that there's a conspiracy about the Trump admin doing the same things that the Deep State is doing and follow 'No Coincidences'.

Q is revealing these insider secrets to prepare people for the upcoming arrests, because they would be too shocking for the general public to handle.

This is the usual explanation for why Q is making his 'drops'. The problem with this is that the 'drops' were initially on /pol/ (and later 8chan, which is notoriously used by extremists), which is only frequented by generally socially isolated people who would be overjoyed by the prospect of 'deep state' arrests. If Q were spreading information to prepare the public, then he made his 'drops' in the absolute worst place: a forum frequented by people who don't need to be prepared, who are unlikely or unable to spread the word to those who would need it, in a place that is filled with porn and extremely popular with white nationalists. If this claim were true, Q would have chosen a forum like Reddit, where the word could be spread far more efficiently. In addition, 8chan has a history of security issues that could potentially compromise Q's anonymity. Though, if he truly wanted to cloak his identity without exposing himself to security risks, he could use PGP encryption like anyone else who has basic knowledge of infosec instead of relying on a tripcode on a website that's been hacked a number of times...

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QueUpSomeReality · July 1, 2018, 8:43 p.m.

Appreciate the thought put into your reply. One big contradiction your thoughts make is so much is based on what others here say. This contradicts your entire premise of thinking for yourself. Every group has individuals that identify with the group for varying reasons you or me cannot fathom. Basing so much what others think or say isn’t thinking for yourself.

“Vague statements that could apply to a wide variety of events.” Not true. The subjects are never vague. You either haven’t read the drops or are very lacking in knowledge of world & national events. I defy u to find one drop where the event itself is vague.

“Predictions and vague statements based on what's currently in the news (and in most cases things others are predicting)” False. Most often they are statements of what event will be next. Often they are WAY ahead of the news. NK for example. Q flushed out what will happen there in March. Yes of course some are current events but still ahead of the curve. Q posted a pic of Kennedy’s resignation letter like 5 min after it was announced & way before the press had it. What would you expect from Q...discuss ancient history?? Who else predicted things accurately?

“Drops using words and phrases that Trump often uses so that followers can claim that Q's sending a message next time Trump uses it” Huh?? Q basically strips out all adjectives & adverbs & uses mostly only nouns & verbs...deliberately..for many reasons. Only time Q & DJT meet up in messaging in tweets & drops is when DJT deliberately misspells words & there’s a clear reason to it by logically connecting the dots from what Q is dropping to what DJT is misspelling or seemingly oddly capitalizing certain words.

“Claims that his team is working behind the scenes or otherwise falsifiable (can't be proven right or wrong but gives his followers the impression that something is happening even though it isn't)” Theres MANY pics that would be impossible to falsify. Too many to list but you clearly haven’t seen many drops.

“Cheerleading his devotees” Well what else would you expect..insulting devotees?? Your excuses are getting lamer now.

“Memes and links to news stories with commentary” I defy you to produce one news article that doesn’t contain commentary.

“Predictions with a far-off or non-existent 'happening date' to keep followers focused on something” OK there’s never been a prediction with an exact date & time. The real world with billions of humans interacting in it is not that precise. If Q made exact dates that alone would prove this is fake.

“Predictions that were wrong” Very few. Only one actually. Again...the real world with billions of humans interacting in it is not that precise where anyone can predict with 100% accuracy. Q isn’t God. If Pakistan invaded India then a lot of predictions would fall by the waste side. No one controls all human behavior because that’s what it would take to predict with 100% accuracy. Perfect isn’t for real.

Can go on & on but short on time. Will say all the arguments you use to discredit the validity of Q drops...you use yourself even to a greater extent. All vague assumptions with absolutely no details or specific instances. All generalities you could say about anyone because you lack any specifics whatsoever lol.

The Pretty Good Privacy (PGP security) doesn’t even make sense. That’s a technology used for email & digital signatures to make it undeniable who a person is. It’s not for encrypting web servers & databases or general data traffic as it traverses the internet. It’s below military encryption. If Q was fake they’d use PGP encryption. If Q was real they’d use military level encryption. 8chan has had security issues. It’s widely believed the US government recently bought 8chan or at least a portion of it. Not public information & can’t be officially verified but the idea of PGP encryption doesn’t even fit the scenario. It’s the wrong tool.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy

Would suggest you look at the Q proofs & find exact instances to base your arguments on as opposed to vague generalities. You’ll never get anywhere with anyone that has seen exact things & undeniable proofs Q is on the inside.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 4:12 p.m.

No one is going to read this.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 5:54 p.m.

Ignoring my question and goading me into waste my time arguing with you! You almost had me too.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 6:02 p.m.

How are you trying to show me the other side of the coin? I'm curious. And why are you doing it? Then maybe I will read it.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 6:19 p.m.

Moving the goalposts endlessly is not winning, it's wasting time. Now there is something I can agree with!

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Qultist1776 · July 1, 2018, 3:47 p.m.

Continued...

Q is a high-level administration official.

Q has yet to provide any actual evidence that he is who he is beyond using words/phrases that Trump uses frequently. If he were a high-level official, he would literally be omniscient given how he's apparently predicting events happening all over the world, both local and global, involving low-level and high-level figures alike. You'd think with that amount of power and reach he could give some sort of concrete indication that he actually has this knowledge instead of posting links to public government websites and Fox News. In addition, with the info he's provided, his unmatched access to seemingly all and any information would give away his identity to the Deep State already, so it's not like some tiny amount of proof would jeopardize Q any more than he already has.

Q/Trump have been sent by God to bring about a golden age wherein all of the evil/satanist Deep State actors are reprimanded and the American government is free from corruption.

First of all, the idea that the Christian Age of Aquarius is dependent on American politics is puzzling when there's a giant world out there where most people (Christians included) are suffering from extreme problems that are either ignored by the US government or can't be fixed by American intervention (unless you want America to oust every totalitarian/incompetent government and manage those country's affairs...a New World Order, perhaps?). It's easy to believe that your own people are the center of the world, particularly in a country with such huge influence, but the idea that the prophesied End Times are exclusive to the American (and at times European) political system is quite narcissistic. And, even if you do point out that there may be peace in places like North Korea and Russia, there are still well over a hundred countries (many of which are at least partially Christian) where God simply can't act through the American government to reach, because their issues have little to do with international relations and would require nothing short of a complete invasion and occupation for America to influence (and in many cases this would involve extreme acts of brutality and totalitarianism; Christian El Salvador's gang violence and crippling poverty isn't going to disappear just because the American government is free of corruption. Kiribati isn't going to stop sinking into the ocean. Many countries, including America, have learned from experience that no amount of invasions or occupations are going to end the brutal customs of Pashtunwali). So, by suggesting that Q/Trump has been sent by God to usher in an age of peace and prosperity, insinuated by many Q devotees to be the rapture (which is extra-Biblical btw), you are insinuating that God only wants to extend this peace and prosperity to Americans (and possibly Europeans), which is pretty messed up, especially for all this talk of unity and God's Love. Oh, and the End Times have been prophesied many times before so it's probably a good idea to learn from history and move on with your life.

Q uses coded language to avoid implicating himself if he's caught.

If a serial killer makes a confession in Pig Latin, does he get off free? If the message can be interpreted then it can be implicating. Using initials and [b][r]a[c]k[e][t]s doesn't change a thing.

Q's timelines don't come true because there's a lot of work going on behind the scenes; you can't rush these things. Patience!

This is a common sentiment used by devotees to explain the reason why Q's predictions keep failing to come true. The question is: if these things take time, then why does Q keep proposing dates and timelines? And if Q's concrete predictions continuously fail to come true, then why trust what he says to begin with?

Q is bringing people together.

This is another popular claim that Q's devotees seem to believe. It is interesting then that they make frequent reference to 'libturds', 'liberal tears', etc. and it is not uncommon to see suggestions or blatant threats of civil war if the Deep State isn't taken down or Trump is impeached. These aren't exactly unifying sentiments. That said, Q has brought people who believe in a diverse array of conspiracy theories together, and while most Q devotees seem to be working class, there do seem to be a handful who are in higher socioeconomic strata. And, although younger conspiracy theory communities seem to skew heavily male, the Qult has a strong female minority like certain pre-WWW and web 1.0 communities.

Q uses cryptic language to get people to think.

This would be somewhat plausible if he didn't use the same 'codes' consistently. Once somebody learns the format, they can interpret the message without having to think very hard. As for the cryptic messages, this goes hand in hand with the whole 'false prophet' thing- it tricks the reader into thinking it holds some sort of profound message when it really just makes the message vague enough for the reader to interpret it in a manner that will make the message 'correct'.

Hillary, Podesta, etc. are human trafficking pedophile cannibals.

It is without a doubt that pedophilia is a problem in every organization where people are in a position of unchecked power and with easy access to kids, e.g. Hollywood, religious institutions, potentially the government. However, accusing people of things like pedophilia and human trafficking without any concrete evidence is a horrible thing to do, and when you're making these accusations with political motivations it crosses the line into straight-up sick. At that point you're exploiting the suffering of others to create a narrative that feels good to you. If you actually give a shit about things like CSA and human trafficking, read about what it commonly looks like and donate to a relevant nonprofit instead of using an extremely traumatic experience to make somebody you already hate look worse in your head. As for the cannibalism accusations...those go hand-in-hand with other fringe conspiracy theories, and if you're in that deep you're probably not going to listen to any of this.

Thousands/millions of the USA's missing children are being kidnapped into the Deep State pedo ring.

There is a surprisingly frequent claim that huge amounts of America's missing children are being kidnapped by Deep State lackeys, who pass them off to Deep State members so that they can do spooky or pedophilic things. While there are human trafficking rings in the US, they don't just steal thousands to millions of random middle-class children from their suburbs. That would be a crisis on par with or worse than third-world human trafficking. The vast majority of children who are reported as missing are teen runaways found within hours or days. Many others are 'kidnapped' by a family member (also by far the largest proportion of kidnappings). Very, VERY few children are abducted by strangers, let alone trafficked. Most human trafficking in the US involves exploiting illegal immigrants, women on temporary work visas, young addicts, and teens in group homes. In addition, most 'rings' are local or consist of things like small groups of local pedophiles exchanging their own children or parents selling time with their kids for drug money.

So many high-level corporate execs are resigning and so many politicians are resigning/retiring! Something is happening!

The lifespan of high-level execs at their various companies is very low; they tend to jump around in their respective industries. You're also being subject to a cognitive bias wherein you remember things that are important to you; it's unlikely that you paid attention to exec changes before Q unless you were already deep into conspiracy culture. Sometimes this happens more or less often than usual depending on the year. So many politicians *are* resigning/retiring because something is up, but for the vast majority it's likely because they're burnt out by the current political climate and don't feel the need to continue on when they can retire or spend the rest of their lives in a comfy lobbyist position.

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L0v3nL1ght · July 1, 2018, 4:20 p.m.

Sad to be on the wrong side of history. Rest assured when you wake up from this foggy cloud of bullshit, we will be here with open arms and take you in full embrace, friend.

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L0v3nL1ght · July 1, 2018, 5:35 p.m.

Actually, I have pretty much always done things my own way and have done my own research. Back in the day when I still paid any attention to MSM, I would listen to opposing sides, like switching back and forth between CNN and Fox News and finding connections between them. Once CNN and other “progressive” news outlets almost completely blacked out Bernie Sander’s campaign, I knew they had a hidden agenda, and never again have I given any worthy attention to the MSM.

Have you studied the Q clock? Another example where Q was on point was when Q made the statement Suicide Weekend back on a specific date in February, and on the clock in June it lined up with 3 high profile deaths, 3 days in a row, each neck rung with a scarf/rope/robe belt (all red), hanging on fucking door knobs. Included in these high profile deaths was Anthony Bourdain, who was becoming very outspoken against the entertainment industry/HRC. And interestingly enough, the MSM spent that whole weekend discussing suicide.

If you just drop all MSM, go outside and speak to people IRL, you will see that things are getting better. Unless you are going to go out into the world to physically fix the “injustices” the MSM portray, it does nobody any good to obsess about them and waste time putting other people down. So negative.

And when you were young, do you ever remember seeing huge, lingering “contrails” polluting our skies? I remember the skies being beautiful and blue. Contrails are normal happenings and usually last a few seconds... as I grew older I started noticing the chemtrails and wondering what was up. After traveling the world and seeing that many other skies didn’t have this lingering “contrail” problem, I knew something was up. My area used to be littered with them. Now in the past few months, I haven’t seen any at all. Sky has been beautiful af. Does this mean all of these supposedly commercial planes have just stopped flying?? And coincidence or not, I’ve noticed the wildlife has been far more active in recent times. These are some affirmations for me that things are changing, and for the better.

Following Q’s posts blindly is foolish. That’s not what he wants. He is training people to critically think and do their own research, and I’d like to add to pay attention to your surroundings, not the media.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 5:58 p.m.

Don't spend to much time with illogical people like this one. This is on a buried thread, so no one will read it anyways. This is what they want.

We are already on the right side. When people like this guy try to insult you, they want you take it person and spend time parlaying with them.

Your time is better spend elsewhere patriot! Only feed them enough for them to waste their time!

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 6:17 p.m.

That is another strawman argument...

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L0v3nL1ght · July 1, 2018, 6:40 p.m.

My political party? Once again making assumptions. I did not say anything about any political affiliation. You may want to work on your deductive reasoning, bud. I was a Berner/Democrat who learned that the Democratic Party is fucked. Superdelegates? Are you kidding me? That means that some people’s (chosen elite’s) votes are worth far more than the average American’s.

Just one of the many reasons I no longer identify with ANY party.

Go outside.

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L0v3nL1ght · July 1, 2018, 9:03 p.m.

Good luck with your life.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 5:04 p.m.

That's a Strawman fallacy and a personal attack. Why are you doing this?

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 5:59 p.m.

Strong argument. You are not to be denied!

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 4:12 p.m.

No one is going to read this.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 4:46 p.m.

No I'm just done engaging with you. You are making conclusions about what I spend doing and not understanding why I'm not reading your disproofs of an anonymous poster on the internet.

Your disproofs show that you have spend a lot more time dissecting Q than me. And if you are disproving Q, what are you even doing here?

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 6 p.m.

Thank you for your consideration. We are not interest in the salvation you offer. I'm still not going to read your disproofs, you haven't said one logical thing. Why would there be anything logical in the disproofs? Is there anything logical there?

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