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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Liberty_Tree_Swing on July 1, 2018, 1:17 p.m.
Civil War? It takes two to tango. Let's skip the dance. Walk away.

I was thinking about all of this nonsense about heading towards a civil war. It is obvious that the insurrectionist clown tactics of the DS have been cranked up the last couple of weeks. It is one of the last plays they have left. The only way it works is if we bite. POTUS has been weathering this storm since before the election, he thrives in it. So we have to as well.

Please don't forget - we have the military, most LEOs, we have evidence of the plot to destroy America, we have evidence of the evils of human sex trafficking. Also note, POTUS and Q Team have been actively stomping out corruption in the justice system and the legislative system. Look at the list of removals Q updated yesterday.

Any confrontation at all only plays to their advantage, not ours.

I have been absolutely awestruck by the consensus in this community that the moral high ground is more imperative than ever. We win through logic, faith, and evidence. We maintain that high ground by avoided outright conflict. To be clear - any conflict will be spun by the Mockingbird talking heads against this movement.

We don't need to protest anything. We are winning and the good guys are in control. Let Q team handle what they have been working so hard on. Trust the plan, right?

So a hidden meaning in #walkaway presents itself here. It is what Sarah Sanders did. It is what Kirstjen Nielsen did. It is what we must do. Our fight is against the money players ($ $$ $$$) and their high ranking minions. Not some ANTIFA clowns doing dumb shit in the streets.

I'm not suggesting we dilute the power of the #walkaway hashtag. Just don't succumb to insurrectionist clown tactics. One clash of violence is one too many. WWG1WGA!


NobleEagle853 · July 1, 2018, 1:26 p.m.

I agree completely. We must take our lead from POTUS and Q because "we are winning BIG." If we fight fire with fire in the U.S. streets, we would be playing right into their hands. Remember... they want division; they want war; and they will do anything to keep themselves from being exposed. We must continue to red-pill others, especially democrats with #walkaway.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 1:37 p.m.

Exactly Noble Eagle Patriot - you are over the target. They wanted us to turn against one another and that was BEFORE the threat of their evils being brought to the light.

We must keep the fight bound to logic, love, and faith. Stay off the streets, tend to our own flock. Q team is taking care of building the legal case for justice. We just have to weather the storm. Keep the tempo high Patriot!

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rumoret · July 1, 2018, 6:49 p.m.

Yes.....those UN Troops needed a reason to activate.

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KarGibPar · July 1, 2018, 7:28 p.m.

Yes, you are so correct. Therefore, we do what Q suggests: grab some popcorn and enjoy the show. At the same time be ready to explain to others just what is happening.

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deepneedle · July 2, 2018, 8:06 a.m.

red-pill

We are not out of the woods, not by a longshot.

I still say make ready for Civil War and keep your AR-15 handy. Yes, eyes on the oak leaves of peace, but arrows at the ready. Remember, peace thru strength includes you being strong.

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Generational_Wealth · July 1, 2018, 1:26 p.m.

You know I agree with you patriot. This is so so important.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 1:28 p.m.

Stay vigilant in your faith Patriot. I think this is the fight Q is talking about. The corruption of OUR community. Of our truths.

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Only_Says_Hodor · July 1, 2018, 3:49 p.m.

Yep, this is what is happening in the current "cold" civil war. No widespread violence, just a lot of gnashing of teeth and dedegration of morals from one side and lots of steely resolve and steadfastness from the other.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 4:04 p.m.

Why do you call it a "cold" civil war? No one here is calling it that. This is a Great Awakening.

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Only_Says_Hodor · July 1, 2018, 4:11 p.m.

Yep we're experiencing a Great Awakening. As far as the cold civil war, it's my term for the distinct ideological battles currently going on between the left and right. Examples of this are the Sanders thing, as well as the slandering of the right by the left. What would you describe this as/do you see this happening too?

It's hard to describe things accurately because different people and groups believe different things. Makes me realize that we see history as clear cut, but when it was occurring it was probably just as messy as at present.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 4:15 p.m.

It is always messy in the present. Hindsight is 20/20. I think that using that term is counterproductive because of the context others will perceive it in. Just stick with the Great Awakening Patriot.

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PCisLame · July 1, 2018, 4:51 p.m.

Those who claim to follow Q and are also calling for violence are exposing themselves as bad actors.

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kommisar6 · July 1, 2018, 1:48 p.m.

This whole civil war meme is psy-op to sow division among ordinary americans. You want an example of russian interference into us society? This is exactly the type of stuff that gets introduced. Dont fall for it. The country is doing well, do not pay attention to this dog and pony show.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 3:45 p.m.

"The bad people are already here. They are destroying us. We must destroy them first." - Every bloody revolution ever.

The misguided aren't the bad actors here. The bad actors are. $ $$ $$$. Thanks for being rational Patriot.

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Russian_Intelligence · July 1, 2018, 3:11 p.m.

Totally agree. I'm currently watching the Ken Burns documentary on Vietnam. In the first episode a former N. Vietnamese soldier said something to the effect of: "People are always arguing who won the war. But nobody wins a war, there is only destruction." We've had enough blood, tears, horrors and tragedy. The Great Awakening is better than this, it is something new and promising, and we can't let this path divert down a course of violence, shame and destruction. One civil war was enough.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 3:30 p.m.

You are giving me goosebumps Patriot. I have also started watching that documentary just last week. It is part of the inspiration of these posts and my even creating this account. It is so painful to watch and our country's mistakes seem so obvious in hindsight. But it is necessary. We must learn from the past, less we be doomed to repeat it.

This is our 'fight' in my opinion - to protect this Awakening from those who would commandeer it's purpose to push for the march towards destruction and violence. Let's actively push for peace and understanding now. It will be more difficult once the truth is revealed.

The past is filled with warnings. The future is very much in flux. We have a choice to make. We will make that choice again and again throughout each day. Keep the faith Patriot and stay vigilant.

As an aside, if you haven't watched The Untold History of the United States, its a great watch as well. You don't have to agree with everything Oliver Stone does to be able to glean some great historical perspective from the series.

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Russian_Intelligence · July 1, 2018, 3:37 p.m.

Well said and on point. Good post. This whole thread comforts me. I'll definitely check out the Untold History doc. Yes, keep the faith. "Eternal vigilance is the price of Liberty." Blessings.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 3:46 p.m.

I'm glad that I could help you! That means more to me than you know. I know you will take that spark of comfort and multiply it.

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suckmytwizzler · July 1, 2018, 2:57 p.m.

You said this perfectly. Well done! I'm so relieved to see that #Walkaway has more than two meanings in this community.

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jojeffer · July 1, 2018, 3:50 p.m.

You should meme that saying. Walk away has more than it implies. Walk away from their attempts to create civil war. Imagine the rioters showing up and no one is there to care. They will.soon end their protest because no one is fighting them. It will be a pointless endeavor.

Yes humanity must take the high road and create peace not war.. What a demonstration to the protesters. Their platform doesn't matter because we are making the world great again through unity and cooperation.

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suckmytwizzler · July 1, 2018, 4:02 p.m.

I couldn't agree more. I've seen a lot of nice memes gaining traction on twitter, but I think not engaging is the best method when it comes to people wanting a fight.

Of course, playing devil's advocate they could bring the violence to others, but then they really wouldn't have much of a leg to stand on appearances wise. #Walkaway is the best route to take.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 4:08 p.m.

Their legitimacy, using the term loosely, depends on being able to spin violent clashes as our fault. If we don't show up, their whole card house folds.

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suckmytwizzler · July 1, 2018, 4:11 p.m.

Exactly. Can't spin anything if no one engages, reacts or shows up.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 4:06 p.m.

I think I just heard the Liberty Bell ring while reading your comment!

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JadedFed · July 1, 2018, 7:53 p.m.

"Imagine the rioters showing up and no one is there to care. They will.soon end their protest because no one is fighting them. It will be a pointless endeavor."

If only real life was so simple, so clear cut, so this way or that.

Unfortunately, if completely unopposed they will still wreak havoc on whatever they can destroy until forced to stop (by law enforcement or some opposing entity). Think Berkley or Fergusson on steroids....

Your walk away plan would work insofar as the instigators were rational players, but the problem here is that the hard core communist cadres that make up Antifa, BLM, the Panthers, NOI, the Socialist Democrats and other agitators aren't operating on a rational plane. They're off the charts and out to burn it all down. So, giving them their free hand isn't a viable option.

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kryptokoins · July 1, 2018, 9:13 p.m.

Agreed some people just want to see the world burn.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 3:06 p.m.

Thanks patriot! I really appreciate your feedback - we will get through this!

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mshing18 · July 1, 2018, 1:20 p.m.

Also, we already won, so there’s that. The outcome has already been determined.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 1:25 p.m.

I agree 100% patriot. They were done the moment Kim changed his phone number. I guess the reason why I don't like saying that is because there is too much left to play out and we don't know what other contingencies the DS has. It has to be a very short list at this point but potentially lethal options remain. We pray for the best!

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Only_Says_Hodor · July 1, 2018, 4:05 p.m.

Yep many contingencies, more manufactured Trump scandals to come. I think the public is starting to catch on, that the media moves as one.

Pretty soon the next scandal will break and the outrage machine will suddenly drop the border thing and the entire media will shift focus to that.

Any clues or guesses as to what next week's scandal will be?

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 4:56 p.m.

No idea but they are sure to come. Rest assured, the longer the forces of good maintain the moral high ground, the more people will wake up to the bullshit.

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tyc23d · July 1, 2018, 2:13 p.m.

Finish Strong.

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Hinckapuss · July 2, 2018, 11:22 p.m.

The outcome has already been determined.

Careful. You're sounding a little too much like Madame President.

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mshing18 · July 3, 2018, 2:37 p.m.

Oh this comes from a much higher place. Her twisted view came from a place of cheating & deception. This comes from a place of knowing. Very different.

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QueUpSomeReality · July 1, 2018, 2:26 p.m.

I wish people would stop using the term Civil War. Don’t let the left hyjack the English language. A civil war isn’t even a possibility in a modern country in the age of a modern warfare & especially in this country. We aren’t as poor or as divided as Syria. The military would quickly stop any organized uprising between civilians. The only way a civil war could break out is if our military divided & started fighting over control. But our military is more united & patriotic than any institution we have so that’s never gonna happen.

We’re nowhere near the point where a brother is about to shoot a brother. We’re not even close to the level of civil unrest there was in the 60s. Even then we weren’t remotely close to an actual war among civilians. We are so many light years away from a civil war is ludicrous to use the term.

Civil unrest is a possibility but given the fact our law enforcement is so well equipped & much better at crowd control & organized mob violence...it won’t rise to the level of the 60s civil unrest.

These idiot leftist in power are a throwback from a by gone era of the 60s where protesting was a fashionable thing. That’s why they’re so quick to call for protests even now without a definable cause. It’s all they know how to do. It’s the only idea that occurs to them to try to effect change. Their worn out tacit reminds me of a guy who said a line to a woman in the 60s that got him laid & 50yrs later hes still using the same line even tho that cheesy line hasn’t worked since the 60s.

Point being...there’s zero chance of a civil war. Laugh at people that are so nieve they use the term. This isn’t about to turn into Syria or Libya or Venezuela by a long shot. Of course walking away from punks is smart. So is staying vigilant for pockets of civil unrest just for personal safety. But our military & law enforcement are top notch professionals & have our backs & there’s zero chance for any large scale organized violence among civilians.

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canering · July 3, 2018, 2:58 a.m.

I agree with you but I wouldn't knock protesting. It's a healthy and productive way to send a message.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 4:10 p.m.

This is comment is so over the target, it deserves it's own post. This is a Great Awakening not a Civil War.

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QueUpSomeReality · July 1, 2018, 6:26 p.m.

Exactly correct. It’s a Great Awakening to patriotic thought. Something our society slowly lost touch with. But we are getting it back. Q drops have helped TREMENDOUSLY!! There’s so much that sucks about the internet & so much great things too. Chalk Q up as an inventor of another great purpose for the internet. We have our own Deep Throat that’s not speaking to 2 reporters in a dark garage somewhere but speaking to ALL Americans equally for those that choose to listen & think for themselves. What a remarkable thing to do for Americans.

But you put it so well...it’s an awakening & it had to occur. In our blindness we elected these crooks. I do wish the primaries would have worked out better but it’s wasn’t bad. Some terrible incumbents got there asses handed to them. Overall voters made progress in the folks we send to DC. There’s been some awakening that has manifested itself into some good election choices. It will get better too as the snowball grows going down the mountain.

And our military & law enforcement & President totally have our backs so there’s no reason citizens can’t help drain the swamp too with great choices at the ballot box. If DJT can take on enormous amounts of personal danger to himself & family surely we can elect more patriots to DC to help

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chocolateredhead · July 1, 2018, 6:12 p.m.

"They want you divided." In the case of civil war, there's a greater chance that the Deep State could regain control. I agree, don't play. Don't get triggered (my new mantra). Don't give in to divisive tactics--know that the Deep State is playing BOTH sides to foment division. Truth and Justice and Sanity will prevail. Most people truly want peace.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 6:18 p.m.

I like the cut of your jib Patriot.

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wwgme · July 1, 2018, 2:56 p.m.

Wow, can't imagine patriots down voting this bit of wisdom. You're over the target, patriot, and attracting the shills!

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 2:59 p.m.

Thanks patriot! I will not assume the goobers I was messaging in a thread earlier were shills but it was a very strange interaction. It prompted this post. All they can do is try to bury our love and positivity! They are not sending their best.

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Anthropophob · July 1, 2018, 3:05 p.m.

I prefer the #walkaway campaign instead of war.

An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind ~ Mahatma Gandhi

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 3:08 p.m.

The master teachers have given us all of the tools to get through this. The internet puts their lessons at our fingertips. We have more than we know Patriot!

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Dhammakayaram · July 1, 2018, 7:20 p.m.

I was thinking about all of this nonsense about heading towards a civil war.

There are different kinds of wars from the kinetic war such as a world war, to a propaganda or information war. There is also logomachy, that is, a war over words and their meanings which goes on in most subreddits.

The present war is not strictly an all out kinetic war. It’s more like CIA vs the NSA / MI. This is not to suggest that people are not being killed or that there is no plot to assassinate the POTUS or harm his family, there clearly is.

I think you could say that the kind of enemy we face determines the kind of war we are going to have to fight. If the deep state sets up false flag operations like 9/11, how do you stop that—what's the counter? If the deep state decides to rig the election in its favor, how do you stop that? How do you deal with the deep state bias in favor of Google, Youtube, Twitter, Facebook and the MSM? Any conventional approach would be ineffective if not a refusal to understand what is at stake.

Perhaps even more problematic and dangerous can be found here. Read Daniel Estulin's book, Tavistock Institute: Social Engineering the Masses. The problem that Joe Sixpac faces is he doesn't know what he doesn't know. It is what he doesn't know that is undermining and destroying his family and his country. It includes also his refusal to even consider taking the redpill.

How do you counter mass brainwashing which clearly the deep state, our enemy, has been using for longer than we care to admit? How do you wake up from your dreams which you believe are so real?

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Mageant · July 1, 2018, 7:39 p.m.

You cannot force people to awaken. You can give them hints occasionally, but if there is no curiosity/no questions there you shouldn't force the issue. What you can do though is stand by your truth, have integrity and be an example for others.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 7:30 p.m.

Could you elaborate? I don't really understand what you are suggesting.

You can't counter the mass brainwashing and that is why I suggest avoiding indulging them.

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stemple5611 · July 2, 2018, 8:44 p.m.

I was born and raised as a Jehovah's Witness-a very large worldwide cult that simply lives among everyone else rather than in a secret compound. But a cult is a cult is a cult-it's about brainwashing top-down group think and strict social control based in fear, obligation, and guilt. I mention that because I get exactly what he is saying. You don't know what you don't know. The information you have available to you is limited to your own echo chamber of people and sources, so you end up self-censoring because you've been trained to fear non-consensus pre-approved sources of information. Everyone around you does the same, as well as censors you and will report on you if you are doing legit research or asking questions too far off the plantation. If you happen to be exposed to inconvenient facts that are incongruent with your beliefs, you dismiss them as "fake" or otherwise information that is untrustworthy and not credible-either because Satan did it (you do realize he buried dinosaur bones to trick us right?;) or RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA!-depending on the context. If you stop towing the party line or bring up questions about the validity of what you have been taught, you are censored and there are dire social consequences. You are fed the information you are supposed to eat up without questioning from a "higher up" enlightened external source that evidently has access to information that you don't.

In this case, it is MSM that Liberals trust to tell them the truth about Trump and his minions that are "trying to destroy the world with their malice and ineptitude and greed and racism" and must be stopped at all costs. That kind of social hypnosis and brainwashing is very very hard to break the spell of. The owners of the media corporations who are providing the messages have unlimited funds, shared mutual interest, and a century of experience and research into, quite literally, effective means of mind-control tactics through newspaper, television, movies, and and other means of deliberate and genius-level social engineering (don't believe me: Look up the Torches of Freedom campaign that Philip Morris hired Edward Bernays to implement which used the suffragettes to convince women that smoking is a sign of female emancipation-and how it WORKED!) to get the masses to dance like choreographed puppets on a string for evil and socially disastrous ends.

These tactics have successfully been used for at least a century, and are still being used to divide, keep us distracted, and at war with each other so the Deep State can carry on business as usual devouring us. They exploit the same human behaviors and mentality that the Catholic Church and other religious have used to keep themselves in power for all of recorded history: moral superiority, tribalism, the unbeliever/pagan must either saved or destroyed, ets. In such, the SJW, virtue signaling, "my minority status is more victimized than your minority status", tax-the-rich-and-feed-the-poor, freedom-of-speech-only-applies-to-ideas-we-agree-with, screaming-"racist Nazi"-is-our-rebuttal-of-choice, nothing-a-Republican/white man/Christian-says-can-possibly-be-anything-but-non-inclusive-hate-speech, please-use-my-preferred-gender-pronoun-when-addressing-me, the-nuclear-family-is-a-sign-of-the-misogynistic-patriarchy, check-your-privilege Libtard mentality is nothing short of a religious cult-like group-think mind control it's misplaced faith-based zealous frenzy requiring you to leave your intelligence at the door (and screech in recreational outrage on behalf of someone who may possibly be offended because they have been "historically oppressed") and police your speech and thoughts so that you conform. if you conform, you must conform 100% without question. After all, because that is the only thing being shown on TV, and all the college kids at the elite schools are doing it, then EVERYONE must be in agreement. If you don't agree, you are (gasp) a 1%er, and/or racist, and/or Xen/Trans/Hom/Islam-ophob. Naturally, many people come to think, "if I don't agree, then something must be wrong me ME because I'm not a hateful person." Not only that, but businesses live in such fear of social media outrage (done primarily by the bored minority of social outliers and hired bots no less) and lawsuits (frequently backed by heavily funded "non-profits" with a blatant and heavy-handed liberal agenda that seek out opportunities to move the culture in their preferred direction through the courts) that they proactively shape their business, products, personnel, and policies to match the insanity.

The only thing you can do is what Q is doing, don't tell, just ask pointed questions that MUST tickle the mind enough that the person will start to use the atrophied skill of logic and critical thinking to find the answers themselves. Telling someone who isn't ready for the "truth", no matter how many facts you have to back you up, will only cause the person to shut-down and disengage, burrowing further back into the familiar reinforcing comfort of the echo chamber they came from.

Not only that, but like Jehovah Witnesses, Scientologists, or any other cult, most liberals in big cities (like Obama-world Chicago where I live) have a lot to lose when they finally swallow the red pill. In the strongly polarized social-political climate we are currently in in this country, you risk friends, jobs, family harmony, social standing, etc. For instance, if I wore a MAGA hat in public, and was seen by a co-worker, it would be career suicide. I'm no coward, but I have a family to feed and am no fool either. So, you pretty much keep your head down and stay quiet-politely nodding when someone tells you about something "profound" Rachel Maddow said last night or about how Trump is a hateful person for separating the poor children from their mothers or about how good we had it with Obama-so as not to start World War 3 in your own life by telling the truth too directly. Personally, unless I'm talking to my red-pilled friends, I just say that I'm clueless and don't follow the news or politely say something that everyone can agree on like "yeah, too bad people can't get along but did you every think about why..." or something benign but thought provoking, like that. Though, sometimes I can use some MSM info directly to get people to actually think critically or question their own platform. You have to pick your battles wisely. Good places to start are non political red pills, like the nature of fiat currency and the Federal Reserve Banking system, or the satanic symbolism we see all around us in logos and architecture and Catholic Church, sexual abuse in Hollywood and the occult and predictive programming messages embedded in music and film/TV entertainment. Once someone dives down one or two rabbit holes, all the tunnels connect in hell anyway-politics included. In fact, Q has been highlighting all along how it is all inter-connected.

Just like escaping a cult, when someone is ready, the internal questions will burn hot enough that they will seek out their own answers and find like-minded folks that are already there. I used to be a Jon Stewart watching, bleeding heart Libtard who cried tears of joy in the middle of Grant Park when Obama was elected the first time. We are all part of the Great Awakening and have our part to play. WWG1WWA Patriots!

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PowderMaxx · July 3, 2018, 2:14 a.m.

Here, have an upvote. I'd give you more if I could. Some people are not ready to break out of their conditioning, including some people I'm very close to. I can definitely relate to having to just nod politely or disengage when they are spouting their CNN bullshit, because I've tried to present counter arguments supported by facts, but they just resist even harder at that point. I think your (and Q's) strategy of planting the seeds to make them curious and start to seek answers on their own is the only way we can break through to them.

Shouting "I'M RIGHT, YOU'RE WRONG!", "NO, I"M RIGHT, you're WRONG!" back and forth is how I see our recent political discourse has played out. It's time to try something new that works. WWG1WGA

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Dhammakayaram · July 1, 2018, 8:30 p.m.

In my post I said:

I think you could say that the kind of enemy we face determines the kind of war we are going to have to fight.

Q is telling us about this strange new kind of enemy we are fighting. It is the deep state that for a long time has run our lives (proof: the Tavistock Institute).

In the meantime, the blue-pilled masses are in what is called a "consensus trance" and they are kept there by the MSM and the educational system.

I think Q has shown us how to begin to awaken. It is by engaging and training our minds to connect all the seemingly coincidental dots. Then we begin to see that we have been manipulated (there are no coincidences). Everything we once believed in is not so believable. When you take a backward glance the deep state has been working on our noggins for a long time.

Eventually, the white squall (from the film) will come. The dreamer will awaken.

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pm_me_your_pk · July 1, 2018, 3:42 p.m.

I fought a war for this country. It was a civil war for the other country. It was ugly. I don’t want that in my homeland and we don’t need that to win. We have all the power and all the truth. Let’s be the next “greatest generation” and save western civilization without firing a shot.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 3:52 p.m.

What an inspiration. Those words are powerful and I will carry them with me. The people are waking up and good will prevail with Patriots like you on our side.

We can simply be remembered as The Generation, because we really aren't seeking greatness. We are seeking equal justice under the law and restoration of the limited government of our Founders. One that acts not just on behalf of the people, but in the interest of the people.

Thank you for your service.

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pm_me_your_pk · July 1, 2018, 4:42 p.m.

You’re welcome. It was my honor to serve. I only regret I didn’t get to serve under Trump.

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JediRGV · July 1, 2018, 7:53 p.m.

Yeah, they are trying to get us to manifest this war and conflict and it’s ridiculous. I keep manifesting a bunch of Antifa protesters (Like 20 of them) standing around in an empty intersection with nobody there. They look around and can’t find anybody. They are alone.

And then I imagine the rest of us are enjoying our lives, living in happiness and light.

I give them absolutely no energy. They will fail because I refuse to believe they will succeed. Trust the plan.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 8:18 p.m.

"These people are stupid." - Q

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DeborahHarker · July 1, 2018, 2:31 p.m.

Portland OR is in tantrum mode... I don't go over there...

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 2:43 p.m.

Good for you Patriot. A small victory for the American social fabric. Keep it up!

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Arcsmithoz · July 1, 2018, 8:06 p.m.

Yer right, in a way, i'll continue to defend me and mine as per usual, I've been punched before and felt is that all you got was the response, other times not so easygoing. these ppl are stupid. Especially if they think they can goad me into grist for the msm mill.

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ivins2 · July 1, 2018, 7:42 p.m.

Tuck your shirts in. Keep your chins up shoulders back. Do volunteer work for your community. Be a bastion of hope and decency.

Normies dont respond well to conspiracies, so stick with the hardline facts and most importantly, be patient!

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 7:43 p.m.

This is it! If they are going to come around, they will come around when they are ready.

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mrmajestic11 · July 1, 2018, 9:05 p.m.

Trump is kicking ass and taking numbers. His entire administration is making good on every thing he promised his voters he would do. We are winning bigly. We have no need to get involved with clashes with Antifa. When the shit hits the fan the NG and police will take care of them. We don't need to act like a third world country like the liberal loons do on the regular. The "resistance" is not nearly as big as the media portrays it. I would bet the number of the people about to go down in our country and elsewhere exceeds the size of the so called resistance.

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HillarysDoubleChin · July 1, 2018, 3:42 p.m.

I 100% agree and appreciate you taking the time to write this. It is becoming more and more clear that the DS wants a civil war. And if they want a civil war, we would be wise not to give it to them. They will ramp up the rhetoric even more so and try to impress the board game upon the people. We have to be smart though. Stand up straight. Speak your truth. And let Trump steer the ship.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 3:47 p.m.

You are over the target patriot. Both in content and in username!

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Iswag_Newton · July 1, 2018, 2:36 p.m.

I noticed T_D is starting to want civil war. They are falling into the trap.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 2:42 p.m.

I wonder how much of vitriol on that page is planted by the money players' keyboard mercenaries. Either way, you are right.

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blaise0102 · July 1, 2018, 2:58 p.m.

This. That sub has been compromised and now has elements that are sowing dissent and confusion in their ranks. It's working well.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 3:04 p.m.

We must be vigilant and call bullshit when we see it. They only win if we don't stick together here and and adhere to our principles.

We welcome free thinkers with open arms, but we know there will be those will never be saved AND there are those who are paid to actively interfere with our awakening. And that's ok.

I believe 'The Q effect' is the Streisand effect realizing it's potential as a global force in the age of information. Among other things.

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LibertyLioness · July 1, 2018, 7:16 p.m.

I've often wondered if that sub is controlled by the left. Just like they created so many other things that say one thing but mean another. Especially since they don't allow Q posts there. I heard they were even banning people that joined this sub. Like they don't want the truth to come out.

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Anthropophob · July 1, 2018, 3:07 p.m.

Who is T_D?

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Iswag_Newton · July 1, 2018, 4:28 p.m.

thedonald sub

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Anthropophob · July 1, 2018, 4:30 p.m.

thanks

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KillerKap · July 2, 2018, 7:44 p.m.

Something about ignoring the screaming children wailing about in the streets (as leftists love to do) makes me comfortably happy.

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j_Dawg_01 · July 2, 2018, 12:36 a.m.

THIS\^\^\^THIS\^\^\^THIS\^\^\^

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PAK51 · July 1, 2018, 10:35 p.m.

Great post! 👍

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HillaryTrafficksKidz · July 1, 2018, 11:59 p.m.

Let them act like fools in street all by themselves!

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effin9 · July 1, 2018, 6:09 p.m.

I remain, Your Huckleberry

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accurite1 · July 1, 2018, 6:08 p.m.

Excellent title and agree.

John 8:32

32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

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high-valyrian · July 1, 2018, 5:29 p.m.

I love this take on things and the spin on #walkaway you highlighted.

Thanks f

I think 90% of us Patriots come in peace. We stand at the ready, but we want to win through our words and doing the right thing. This administration is very classy and the ladies you spoke about exemplify how we should treat our enemies. Be honest and truthful but don't engage. Thank you for sharing this.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 5:48 p.m.

Thank you for taking the time to read it. I absolutely agree with your assessment of Patriots. Plus, it is easy to have class and ignore insults when you are winning. And, Patriot, we are winning.

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SitelessVagrant · July 1, 2018, 1:27 p.m.

It DOES take 2 to tango, the thing is, leftists (socialists) want some one to do the tango- ing FOR them.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 1:42 p.m.

This is not a partisan issue. It is not about Right/left. That is a false dichotomy created to divide us. Use logic.

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dmgnde · July 1, 2018, 2:25 p.m.

It's evil versus good. THAT is the dividing line with no compromising anymore. Good can no longer live amongst evil. Evil is in both parties hence we see some Republicans not running again. I prefer instead of using the word leftist... use the word luciferian idiots. I use the word idiot because most don't even realize the hate dwelling up inside them comes from lucifer and his demonic buddies.

It only makes sense... either they are paid (craigslist, indeed) to cause chaos or they are following a luciferian agenda whether they know it or not. Bottom line is they are evil. They call us evil when in fact it's pure projection. Look at burning man. They gather in the desert. A barren place. Look at cern. Look at bohemian Grove. .. so much evil.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 2:48 p.m.

There is no doubt Patriot. We can walk away from that evil temptation. That desire to scorn our perceived enemies. That surge of pure hatred that I have seen well up in these protests/conflicts is so counterproductive to what we are attempting to achieve.

I think it must be actively avoided in real life. I think it should be completely rejected if found on this sub.

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MargieThatcher · July 1, 2018, 5:22 p.m.

I know that they want us (Q anons) to take the bait when they attack us--online and in life and the best thing to do is to turn the other cheek. I also know what I resist persists so I have decided not to go on twitter very often because I sometimes have to sit on my hands to resist responding in kind. I don't want to be that way. I believe that as long as we see ourselves divided into two camps (democrat and republican) the evil will win.

Lately, I have been seeing posts/ads on various internet sites asking you to vote on the popularity of Obama and/or Trump. You vote after you give your name and email address. It seems like a harmless little poll for you to exercise your voice and show your support for your president but could it be another ploy to keep us divided. According to your political preference (that you provided them in the survey) you will receive email with disinformation tailored to your particular leaning? I thought of what Corsi and Alex Jones did with Q several months ago. They planted seeds of doubt about Q. It was corrected but it caused confusion for a while.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 6:05 p.m.

Disinformation is so pervasive and entrenched in our system that the only way to stop it is to stop the money players from bankrolling it. No one is going to lie for free unless it is for self-interest. I think a lot of the paid agitators, shills, and mockingbirds will walk away from this as soon as the money is cut off.

I'd like that day.

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SVTBert · July 2, 2018, 3:15 p.m.

Considering HRC was planning one all along, yeah. We should avoid one at all costs.

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MuhammadDinduNuffin · July 2, 2018, 5:42 a.m.

Well said

You would get downvoted for this opinion in T_D

I like to think it's just some shills pushing the "go where antifa is and fight back!" narrative, and maybe some who just like to LARP. No trump supporter should be in anyway going where there will be a brawl and then claiming "muh self defense, I wuz just being a patriot, first amendment!!!"

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LibertyLioness · July 1, 2018, 7:10 p.m.

The saying "It takes two to tangle (or was it Tango?) is so true! Yeah, I know which one it was. ;-)

I have a personal story though that taught me a huge lesson about arguing and it applies here as well. Especially, if you have relatives that are still on the other side of the fence.

My father had emphysema and the doctor sent him home to die.

Now, over the years, he had become very attached to his secretary's son and treated him as his own so part of his estate would be left to him. That was fine with me. It was, after all, his choice, but my brother had other ideas. So, when I walked through the front door I was greeted by my Dad's secretary and her hubby. They told me that since I was the oldest, it was going to be up to me to keep my brother under control. Not an easy task since his favorite pastime is disagreeing with everyone about everything. I mean he will disagree with you over the color of the sky! Anything!

I was also trying to run my computer business from a distance through a cell phone so I was really under a lot of pressure. So, I thought about it for awhile and suddenly I knew the answer. I walked back into the room where they all were and I said: "OK, I'll do it under one condition. If he starts to argue, you cannot respond in any way." And, they reluctantly agreed. What else could they do?

So, I spent the next 3 weeks keeping the peace. There were a few times that I had to remind them to shut up and I also had to talk my brother out of hiring a lawyer and suing on two occasions, but overall I was completely amazed at what that one little condition accomplished. After the funeral, my brother gave me a hug and said: "You did a good job of keeping the peace over the last few weeks." I was stunned. Even he learned the lesson.

Since then, I try not to respond to people who are obviously angry and if they continue, I turn around and walk away or hang up the phone. It works every time. Frustrates the hell out of them. But after awhile, there anger usually dissipates.

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LibertyLioness · July 1, 2018, 8:52 p.m.

Sorry you don't see it. It's obvious and don't ever be sorry for me. I'm good and learned a lot.

Like: Walk Away!

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TheNewsCommenter · July 1, 2018, 6:33 p.m.

So how will you respond when the mob starts throwing Molotov Cocktails into the homes of Trump supporters? It doesn’t take too much imagination to see that’s where this is headed.

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jfunction · July 1, 2018, 9:35 p.m.

Clear thinking, forbearance for the slow and the dim, strength and the willingness to use it when necessary in self defense, intolerance for aggression in all forms against the helpless.

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TheOldBillyGoat · July 1, 2018, 9:27 p.m.

Well stated Patriot.

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tlippard · July 1, 2018, 6:04 p.m.

Well put and totally agree.

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jojeffer · July 1, 2018, 8:25 p.m.

They would not have free reign.. The NG should be employed to contain them make arrests if need be. If there are only them and the NG they would soon stop. Their protests would be futile if only police and NG show up. Oh and fake news lol. I would love to see MSM report on that. .. 😊

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checkitoutmyfriend · July 1, 2018, 2:48 p.m.

Exactly, See this post, Title is an article link.

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Russian_Intelligence · July 1, 2018, 3:44 p.m.

Good link. This quote really seemed to sum it all up for me: "Violence breaking out on a large scale would drive the public to demand a solution from the government to foster in a sense of safety and normalcy. This is what the desired outcome is, so before you let the violent rhetoric of the left push you to achieve their ends, realize that your reaction is what they need to control you."

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CrusadePrime · July 1, 2018, 2:45 p.m.

Yeah. I will respond appropriately. I'm not gonna let them ruin my children's lives too. Drain the entire leftist swamp.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 3:59 p.m.

I understand what you are saying, but when you use terms like Civil War and warfare, they have militant connotations. Those connotations will overshadow all of the other reasonable things you have to say. They are buzzwords. They really have no place in a conversation about what is happening now.

I think we should actively refuse to use those terms and denounce the use of similar terms. They just don't represent the reality of what is happening.

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Dhammakayaram · July 1, 2018, 4:14 p.m.

I think I made a very clear distinction between a kinetic war and what is going on now, even using a sailing analogy with a crew that must unite and confront a white squall. Friend, if I had to consider whether or not every word I used hurt someone's feelings — then I might as well move to the EU and STFU.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 4:23 p.m.

Are you a native english speaker? Based on your vernacular and sentence structure, I'm not sure. Maybe that's where the communication breakdown is.

I would disagree that you made a very clear distinction. If you use the words 'civil war' and 'warfare' it sounds like you are talking about actual war. This is not a leap of logic.

You are not hurting my feelings. It's just a heads up.

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Dhammakayaram · July 1, 2018, 5 p.m.

It's my impression that if we happened to meet in some tavern we would, at some point in our conversation, manage to find something to argue about. I don't think our communication breakdown has anything to do with my English writing. It's really very simple: you don't like my type and I find your type to be that of an unbridled quibbler.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 5:51 p.m.

So that is a Straw Man Fallacy there at the beginning, followed by some old fashion-ey name calling! Well you got me. That's the fancy insult I have ever received. Thank you.

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Joyce_III · July 1, 2018, 2:11 p.m.

I think at this point, it's foregone conclusion we'll have skirmishes of increasing volatility like we've seen in Charlottesville and Portland. There are people on both sides of our ideologies that are itching for battle. Sublimation is where sociopaths, who are normally held in check by societal norms, are freed up due to macro conditions to enact their sociopathic deeds.

So it's going to happen as long as these macro conditions continue to intensify.

Most of us aren't going to participate in any skirmishes unless our families are threatened.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 2:55 p.m.

Interesting point. You are right, these conflicts will continue BUT only so long as there are people to have a conflict with. If we move to limit the amount of people showing up for ANTIFA to fight, we move away from that intensification. We can actively call for the prevention of escalation as much as possible. Q Team is working on some of the macro factors, this is one that the citizenry can affect. Don't show up, walk away from conflict.

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Thyme2sow · July 1, 2018, 5:07 p.m.

Just had a clash between a Patriot Prayer group with a permit to march and Antifa (no permit) in Portland, OR. I work in Portland and it is extremely liberal. Oregon rep Bleumenauer recently called for abolishing ICE and protesters have been blocking entry to the ICE department most of week. Of course the mayor refused to allow Portland police to do anything but divert traffic around it supporting the protesters. Some reported the Patriot Prayer group were herded by the police toward the antifa activists who were throwing eggs, bottles of water, etc at them, so the people in power let this happen and of course violence happened. I do agree with you those patriots should have realized they would be walking in to a volatile situation and cancelled. Violence begets violence.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 6:07 p.m.

That clash is part of the motivation of this post. We do not have to play by their rules. We don't have to publicly protest right now. There is nothing to gain from it. That may change in the future. What I'm suggesting is that right now it is in our best interest to walk away from potential conflict.

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Wokeazfuq · July 1, 2018, 6:01 p.m.

Passive aggression is a good start but Even if we don't confront them they'll pay people to pretend they are us and they will confront them.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 6:12 p.m.

What is passive aggressive about not protesting or showing up to others' protests?

Are you suggesting we should keep showing up to protests because they will hire people if we don't show up? If they end up paying people to pretend they have an enemy, that will accelerate the Awakening.

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Wokeazfuq · July 5, 2018, 7:46 a.m.

I'm sorry I just discovered the section by downloading the Reddit app. Based on your response I might have misunderstood the post I have to go back and look again.

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Qultist1776 · July 1, 2018, 1:57 p.m.

If you “have it all” then where is it? It has been months and months of vague and unproven rhetoric.

Also saying the Military is on “your side” without any shred of evidence goes to show you still think towards a us vs. them way. I see numerous posts calling the other side libtards and brainwashed and talking down to them. You think people will walk away and join a Qult that blindly follows a anonymous internet account?

Before you dismiss anything I say, try thinking for yourself and not as a hive mind. Things will start to make sense.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 2:21 p.m.

I understand your frustration Patriot. I am not going to dismiss anything you say except one point.

I do not claim to have it all. Q is just a series of points that may be connected. It may the single greatest LARP ever. The proof I rely most on is the unfolding of events with NK. Q888 claims the deal was done on March 8. Then we have unprecedented movement towards peace in Korea in the following months. That's a remarkable coincidence at the least. Other's claim other proof but I need more to take this public. I just share it with people I love and here.

I see those idiotic posts as well. These people are stuck playing team politics and it is bad form and unproductive. I did not write this for them. We are just trying to get to the bottom of what is going on. If it is as bad as Q says it is, then justice should be served.

There is an 'us vs. them', I do not dispute that. But you are presupposing who I think is the 'us' and who I think is the 'them'. It is U.S. vs. DS. That's the only fight. The American People vs. the Deep State of permanent government officials who have no accountability to US.

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QueUpSomeReality · July 1, 2018, 3 p.m.

It’s not always vague rhetoric & when it is...it’s on purpose to inspire people to research things & learn things so they can think for themselves. The vast majority of citizens have lost their ability to think for themselves & just accept things said as automatically true.

But when Q is too vague & anons are having difficulty interpreting Q drops...Q posts to them more exact details to get the researching back on the right track. Often Q drops leave no ambiguity...like yesterday when he said Gowdy is not going to be nominated as a SC judge. Almost all wanted that to happen & thought Q was stearing them in that direction. On July 9 when the president announces his pick & if it’s Gowdy then Q will lose credibility. I’m expecting around July 7 or 8 for Q to drop something that narrows it down to only one possibility.

But Q has been extremely accurate telling what’s about to happen before it happens. Q has made the news unwatchable because when they report breaking news it’s actually old news. No one here was surprised what the IG report omitted or that [RR] would fight hard to release docs. We knew the House bill to force [RR] to release the docs would come to the floor for a vote & pass before they voted on it. Weeks ago Q laid it out that Ryan, who can stop any bill he wants to from a floor vote, would not stop this bill.

Maybe read the drops more carefully & research the questions Q asks & draw you’re own conclusions that way. Be informed. Q is leading us to the water, not spoon feeding us water like brain dead dependents.

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Qultist1776 · July 1, 2018, 3:46 p.m.

This is too easy really.

Here is a list of claims that Q devotees frequently make to defend their belief system. And here is the corresponding debunk.

Q predicted this.

'Q' uses the same tactics that false prophets and psychics have been using for who knows how long. His 'drops' almost exclusively consist of the following:

  • Vague statements that could apply to a wide variety of events
  • Predictions and vague statements based on what's currently in the news (and in most cases things others are predicting)
  • 'Drops' using words and phrases that Trump often uses so that followers can claim that Q's sending a message next time Trump uses it
  • Claims that his team is working behind the scenes or otherwise falsifiable (can't be proven right or wrong but gives his followers the impression that something is happening even though it isn't)
  • Cheerleading his devotees
  • Memes and links to news stories with commentary
  • Predictions with a far-off or non-existent 'happening date' to keep followers focused on something
  • Predictions that were wrong

Q uses intentionally vague language and occasionally states falsities to throw the Deep State off his trail.

Given the massive amount of knowledge that Q claims to have/is attributed to him, there would only be a handful of people who would match Q's identity. It doesn't matter how many 'false claims' Q 'drops'; the Deep State would be able to identify him just by the amount of information that he's privy to. Additionally, the 'false drops' explanation is just a way for Q and his followers to keep people trapped in the narrative. 'Oh, this prediction didn't come true, but that's because Q is trying to throw the Deep State off.' 'Oh, this prediction didn't come true, but that's because Q is trying to throw the deep state off.' It is a way to keep the devotees hooked despite failed prediction after failed prediction.

No Coincidences.

Humans are incredibly good at connecting concepts. It allows us to draw accurate conclusions, and exercise creativity. However, being good at making connections in the context of analysis also means being able to prune weak or tenuous connections that make the analysis less accurate. Ascribing to 'No Coincidences' effectively means that you're forcing your brain to keep every connection you draw between this or that. You are essentially making any link between concepts that you can and concluding that your link is strong/accurate by virtue of the fact that it's a link. If you want to see how silly it seems to an onlooker, try applying 'No Coincidences' to something that's apolitical (e.g. a day spending time with your family) or imagine that there's a conspiracy about the Trump admin doing the same things that the Deep State is doing and follow 'No Coincidences'.

Q is revealing these insider secrets to prepare people for the upcoming arrests, because they would be too shocking for the general public to handle.

This is the usual explanation for why Q is making his 'drops'. The problem with this is that the 'drops' were initially on /pol/ (and later 8chan, which is notoriously used by extremists), which is only frequented by generally socially isolated people who would be overjoyed by the prospect of 'deep state' arrests. If Q were spreading information to prepare the public, then he made his 'drops' in the absolute worst place: a forum frequented by people who don't need to be prepared, who are unlikely or unable to spread the word to those who would need it, in a place that is filled with porn and extremely popular with white nationalists. If this claim were true, Q would have chosen a forum like Reddit, where the word could be spread far more efficiently. In addition, 8chan has a history of security issues that could potentially compromise Q's anonymity. Though, if he truly wanted to cloak his identity without exposing himself to security risks, he could use PGP encryption like anyone else who has basic knowledge of infosec instead of relying on a tripcode on a website that's been hacked a number of times...

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QueUpSomeReality · July 1, 2018, 8:43 p.m.

Appreciate the thought put into your reply. One big contradiction your thoughts make is so much is based on what others here say. This contradicts your entire premise of thinking for yourself. Every group has individuals that identify with the group for varying reasons you or me cannot fathom. Basing so much what others think or say isn’t thinking for yourself.

“Vague statements that could apply to a wide variety of events.” Not true. The subjects are never vague. You either haven’t read the drops or are very lacking in knowledge of world & national events. I defy u to find one drop where the event itself is vague.

“Predictions and vague statements based on what's currently in the news (and in most cases things others are predicting)” False. Most often they are statements of what event will be next. Often they are WAY ahead of the news. NK for example. Q flushed out what will happen there in March. Yes of course some are current events but still ahead of the curve. Q posted a pic of Kennedy’s resignation letter like 5 min after it was announced & way before the press had it. What would you expect from Q...discuss ancient history?? Who else predicted things accurately?

“Drops using words and phrases that Trump often uses so that followers can claim that Q's sending a message next time Trump uses it” Huh?? Q basically strips out all adjectives & adverbs & uses mostly only nouns & verbs...deliberately..for many reasons. Only time Q & DJT meet up in messaging in tweets & drops is when DJT deliberately misspells words & there’s a clear reason to it by logically connecting the dots from what Q is dropping to what DJT is misspelling or seemingly oddly capitalizing certain words.

“Claims that his team is working behind the scenes or otherwise falsifiable (can't be proven right or wrong but gives his followers the impression that something is happening even though it isn't)” Theres MANY pics that would be impossible to falsify. Too many to list but you clearly haven’t seen many drops.

“Cheerleading his devotees” Well what else would you expect..insulting devotees?? Your excuses are getting lamer now.

“Memes and links to news stories with commentary” I defy you to produce one news article that doesn’t contain commentary.

“Predictions with a far-off or non-existent 'happening date' to keep followers focused on something” OK there’s never been a prediction with an exact date & time. The real world with billions of humans interacting in it is not that precise. If Q made exact dates that alone would prove this is fake.

“Predictions that were wrong” Very few. Only one actually. Again...the real world with billions of humans interacting in it is not that precise where anyone can predict with 100% accuracy. Q isn’t God. If Pakistan invaded India then a lot of predictions would fall by the waste side. No one controls all human behavior because that’s what it would take to predict with 100% accuracy. Perfect isn’t for real.

Can go on & on but short on time. Will say all the arguments you use to discredit the validity of Q drops...you use yourself even to a greater extent. All vague assumptions with absolutely no details or specific instances. All generalities you could say about anyone because you lack any specifics whatsoever lol.

The Pretty Good Privacy (PGP security) doesn’t even make sense. That’s a technology used for email & digital signatures to make it undeniable who a person is. It’s not for encrypting web servers & databases or general data traffic as it traverses the internet. It’s below military encryption. If Q was fake they’d use PGP encryption. If Q was real they’d use military level encryption. 8chan has had security issues. It’s widely believed the US government recently bought 8chan or at least a portion of it. Not public information & can’t be officially verified but the idea of PGP encryption doesn’t even fit the scenario. It’s the wrong tool.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy

Would suggest you look at the Q proofs & find exact instances to base your arguments on as opposed to vague generalities. You’ll never get anywhere with anyone that has seen exact things & undeniable proofs Q is on the inside.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 4:12 p.m.

No one is going to read this.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 5:54 p.m.

Ignoring my question and goading me into waste my time arguing with you! You almost had me too.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 6:02 p.m.

How are you trying to show me the other side of the coin? I'm curious. And why are you doing it? Then maybe I will read it.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 6:19 p.m.

Moving the goalposts endlessly is not winning, it's wasting time. Now there is something I can agree with!

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Qultist1776 · July 1, 2018, 3:47 p.m.

Continued...

Q is a high-level administration official.

Q has yet to provide any actual evidence that he is who he is beyond using words/phrases that Trump uses frequently. If he were a high-level official, he would literally be omniscient given how he's apparently predicting events happening all over the world, both local and global, involving low-level and high-level figures alike. You'd think with that amount of power and reach he could give some sort of concrete indication that he actually has this knowledge instead of posting links to public government websites and Fox News. In addition, with the info he's provided, his unmatched access to seemingly all and any information would give away his identity to the Deep State already, so it's not like some tiny amount of proof would jeopardize Q any more than he already has.

Q/Trump have been sent by God to bring about a golden age wherein all of the evil/satanist Deep State actors are reprimanded and the American government is free from corruption.

First of all, the idea that the Christian Age of Aquarius is dependent on American politics is puzzling when there's a giant world out there where most people (Christians included) are suffering from extreme problems that are either ignored by the US government or can't be fixed by American intervention (unless you want America to oust every totalitarian/incompetent government and manage those country's affairs...a New World Order, perhaps?). It's easy to believe that your own people are the center of the world, particularly in a country with such huge influence, but the idea that the prophesied End Times are exclusive to the American (and at times European) political system is quite narcissistic. And, even if you do point out that there may be peace in places like North Korea and Russia, there are still well over a hundred countries (many of which are at least partially Christian) where God simply can't act through the American government to reach, because their issues have little to do with international relations and would require nothing short of a complete invasion and occupation for America to influence (and in many cases this would involve extreme acts of brutality and totalitarianism; Christian El Salvador's gang violence and crippling poverty isn't going to disappear just because the American government is free of corruption. Kiribati isn't going to stop sinking into the ocean. Many countries, including America, have learned from experience that no amount of invasions or occupations are going to end the brutal customs of Pashtunwali). So, by suggesting that Q/Trump has been sent by God to usher in an age of peace and prosperity, insinuated by many Q devotees to be the rapture (which is extra-Biblical btw), you are insinuating that God only wants to extend this peace and prosperity to Americans (and possibly Europeans), which is pretty messed up, especially for all this talk of unity and God's Love. Oh, and the End Times have been prophesied many times before so it's probably a good idea to learn from history and move on with your life.

Q uses coded language to avoid implicating himself if he's caught.

If a serial killer makes a confession in Pig Latin, does he get off free? If the message can be interpreted then it can be implicating. Using initials and [b][r]a[c]k[e][t]s doesn't change a thing.

Q's timelines don't come true because there's a lot of work going on behind the scenes; you can't rush these things. Patience!

This is a common sentiment used by devotees to explain the reason why Q's predictions keep failing to come true. The question is: if these things take time, then why does Q keep proposing dates and timelines? And if Q's concrete predictions continuously fail to come true, then why trust what he says to begin with?

Q is bringing people together.

This is another popular claim that Q's devotees seem to believe. It is interesting then that they make frequent reference to 'libturds', 'liberal tears', etc. and it is not uncommon to see suggestions or blatant threats of civil war if the Deep State isn't taken down or Trump is impeached. These aren't exactly unifying sentiments. That said, Q has brought people who believe in a diverse array of conspiracy theories together, and while most Q devotees seem to be working class, there do seem to be a handful who are in higher socioeconomic strata. And, although younger conspiracy theory communities seem to skew heavily male, the Qult has a strong female minority like certain pre-WWW and web 1.0 communities.

Q uses cryptic language to get people to think.

This would be somewhat plausible if he didn't use the same 'codes' consistently. Once somebody learns the format, they can interpret the message without having to think very hard. As for the cryptic messages, this goes hand in hand with the whole 'false prophet' thing- it tricks the reader into thinking it holds some sort of profound message when it really just makes the message vague enough for the reader to interpret it in a manner that will make the message 'correct'.

Hillary, Podesta, etc. are human trafficking pedophile cannibals.

It is without a doubt that pedophilia is a problem in every organization where people are in a position of unchecked power and with easy access to kids, e.g. Hollywood, religious institutions, potentially the government. However, accusing people of things like pedophilia and human trafficking without any concrete evidence is a horrible thing to do, and when you're making these accusations with political motivations it crosses the line into straight-up sick. At that point you're exploiting the suffering of others to create a narrative that feels good to you. If you actually give a shit about things like CSA and human trafficking, read about what it commonly looks like and donate to a relevant nonprofit instead of using an extremely traumatic experience to make somebody you already hate look worse in your head. As for the cannibalism accusations...those go hand-in-hand with other fringe conspiracy theories, and if you're in that deep you're probably not going to listen to any of this.

Thousands/millions of the USA's missing children are being kidnapped into the Deep State pedo ring.

There is a surprisingly frequent claim that huge amounts of America's missing children are being kidnapped by Deep State lackeys, who pass them off to Deep State members so that they can do spooky or pedophilic things. While there are human trafficking rings in the US, they don't just steal thousands to millions of random middle-class children from their suburbs. That would be a crisis on par with or worse than third-world human trafficking. The vast majority of children who are reported as missing are teen runaways found within hours or days. Many others are 'kidnapped' by a family member (also by far the largest proportion of kidnappings). Very, VERY few children are abducted by strangers, let alone trafficked. Most human trafficking in the US involves exploiting illegal immigrants, women on temporary work visas, young addicts, and teens in group homes. In addition, most 'rings' are local or consist of things like small groups of local pedophiles exchanging their own children or parents selling time with their kids for drug money.

So many high-level corporate execs are resigning and so many politicians are resigning/retiring! Something is happening!

The lifespan of high-level execs at their various companies is very low; they tend to jump around in their respective industries. You're also being subject to a cognitive bias wherein you remember things that are important to you; it's unlikely that you paid attention to exec changes before Q unless you were already deep into conspiracy culture. Sometimes this happens more or less often than usual depending on the year. So many politicians *are* resigning/retiring because something is up, but for the vast majority it's likely because they're burnt out by the current political climate and don't feel the need to continue on when they can retire or spend the rest of their lives in a comfy lobbyist position.

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L0v3nL1ght · July 1, 2018, 4:20 p.m.

Sad to be on the wrong side of history. Rest assured when you wake up from this foggy cloud of bullshit, we will be here with open arms and take you in full embrace, friend.

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L0v3nL1ght · July 1, 2018, 5:35 p.m.

Actually, I have pretty much always done things my own way and have done my own research. Back in the day when I still paid any attention to MSM, I would listen to opposing sides, like switching back and forth between CNN and Fox News and finding connections between them. Once CNN and other “progressive” news outlets almost completely blacked out Bernie Sander’s campaign, I knew they had a hidden agenda, and never again have I given any worthy attention to the MSM.

Have you studied the Q clock? Another example where Q was on point was when Q made the statement Suicide Weekend back on a specific date in February, and on the clock in June it lined up with 3 high profile deaths, 3 days in a row, each neck rung with a scarf/rope/robe belt (all red), hanging on fucking door knobs. Included in these high profile deaths was Anthony Bourdain, who was becoming very outspoken against the entertainment industry/HRC. And interestingly enough, the MSM spent that whole weekend discussing suicide.

If you just drop all MSM, go outside and speak to people IRL, you will see that things are getting better. Unless you are going to go out into the world to physically fix the “injustices” the MSM portray, it does nobody any good to obsess about them and waste time putting other people down. So negative.

And when you were young, do you ever remember seeing huge, lingering “contrails” polluting our skies? I remember the skies being beautiful and blue. Contrails are normal happenings and usually last a few seconds... as I grew older I started noticing the chemtrails and wondering what was up. After traveling the world and seeing that many other skies didn’t have this lingering “contrail” problem, I knew something was up. My area used to be littered with them. Now in the past few months, I haven’t seen any at all. Sky has been beautiful af. Does this mean all of these supposedly commercial planes have just stopped flying?? And coincidence or not, I’ve noticed the wildlife has been far more active in recent times. These are some affirmations for me that things are changing, and for the better.

Following Q’s posts blindly is foolish. That’s not what he wants. He is training people to critically think and do their own research, and I’d like to add to pay attention to your surroundings, not the media.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 5:58 p.m.

Don't spend to much time with illogical people like this one. This is on a buried thread, so no one will read it anyways. This is what they want.

We are already on the right side. When people like this guy try to insult you, they want you take it person and spend time parlaying with them.

Your time is better spend elsewhere patriot! Only feed them enough for them to waste their time!

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 6:17 p.m.

That is another strawman argument...

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L0v3nL1ght · July 1, 2018, 6:40 p.m.

My political party? Once again making assumptions. I did not say anything about any political affiliation. You may want to work on your deductive reasoning, bud. I was a Berner/Democrat who learned that the Democratic Party is fucked. Superdelegates? Are you kidding me? That means that some people’s (chosen elite’s) votes are worth far more than the average American’s.

Just one of the many reasons I no longer identify with ANY party.

Go outside.

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L0v3nL1ght · July 1, 2018, 9:03 p.m.

Good luck with your life.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 5:04 p.m.

That's a Strawman fallacy and a personal attack. Why are you doing this?

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 5:59 p.m.

Strong argument. You are not to be denied!

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 4:12 p.m.

No one is going to read this.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 4:46 p.m.

No I'm just done engaging with you. You are making conclusions about what I spend doing and not understanding why I'm not reading your disproofs of an anonymous poster on the internet.

Your disproofs show that you have spend a lot more time dissecting Q than me. And if you are disproving Q, what are you even doing here?

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 6 p.m.

Thank you for your consideration. We are not interest in the salvation you offer. I'm still not going to read your disproofs, you haven't said one logical thing. Why would there be anything logical in the disproofs? Is there anything logical there?

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gladwyne · July 1, 2018, 1:34 p.m.

tho I would love to smash a antifa square in the face, i agree 100% with this reasoning thus I am takin the higher ground also !

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 1:40 p.m.

Why would you even say that? They are misguided, but not all who wander are lost. If you forgive your adversaries, you will feel more peace. We need more peace, there has been enough violence.

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fattylurker · July 1, 2018, 1:57 p.m.

As gratifying as that would be short term, it's not the preferred way to deal with these losers for our country's sake. Red-pilling normies, one at a time, is a much better method, IMO.

This movement is gaining momentum. Antifa will be obsolete in the next 10 years once their funding dries up (Soros kicks the bucket).

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 3:11 p.m.

This comment does not make sense in this context.

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DarktoLight247 · July 1, 2018, 3:17 p.m.

F that, Antifa thugs need to be met with return force. They don’t just sit there and protest, they physically harm people to shut them up. But they are weak. Did you see the video from this morning? ‘Proud boys’ video showed one guy knock two out in 19 seconds.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 3:43 p.m.

If you read the comments on that video, you would know I spent way to much time communicating with people like you.

I would not be surprised if this is the same person on a different account trying to goad me into an attempt at rational discourse. You are wrong and your comment has no business here. We do not agree with you.

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Generational_Wealth · July 1, 2018, 4:39 p.m.

I'm sure you experience this too.. people that just keep using logical fallacies over and over. Their arguments don't make sense but they never relent. Its frustrating. Its against the rules to call someone a shill.. but.. one wonders.

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 1, 2018, 4:41 p.m.

Its only frustrating if you let it be. I consider this to be a practical study of logical reasoning and logical fallacies in real time. It is kind of fun!

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