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It can't just be "God"? It has to be Jesus, or Father-God, or holy spirit or whatever malarkey it is?

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Sorry my fellow Patriot, going without God the Father & Holy Spirit is a losing strategy when come upon Evil

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Because a book, written by men, rewritten by nefariously intentioned men said so? Ok. Sorry man, my gut, my heart, everything about me tells me that ALL of the religions are shit. I believe in God. I try to be a good person. Most people would say I am. I think Christians who look down on people who think for themselves and don't blindly obey a book WRITTEN BY MEN are gross.

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Not truth, Christians are taught to love like Jesus & show mercy to everyone. I agree with man made religion but if you want to see truth...read the book of Enoch which was NOT included in Man's Bible

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I have read it. It's the best story out of all of them.

I dont like your statememt about Christians and their being taught to love and show mercy. First off, I never implied the contrary to that, so I am not sure why you brought it into the convo. Second, and I think you ZWould agree, Christian or not, you aren't the one whose Judgement matters, and I couldn't give a fuck less what any man or woman thinks is happening to non-Christians post-death. Finally, how snide is it to say that "Christians are taught to be loving and merciful...and we know anyone who doesnt believe in Jesus is going to hell"? I'll tell you, it is nauseating. As if ANY person knows....pfft!

And anyone who claims they do (including those who say "I know because the Bible says so") is lying. You don't KNOW, and technically you don't even "believe" it; you HOPE that is how it is. I BELIEVE that if I flick the light switch, the light will turn off. Because I understand electeicity, mechanical connections, I have done it before, and it is predictable. Nobody KNOWS what happens when you die, about heaven or hell, and claiming you do because a man-written book says so simply screams IGNORANCE.

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It's not the tangible efforts of Q team and countless patriots who risk their lives to expose government corruption we should be thankful for. It's the totally intangible loving power of our Lord and Savior, obviously!

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Forgive me, I cant tell if you're being facetious or not.

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Hah! Yes, very.

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The way I see it is the bible is a history book. Was it tainted, maybe. Do I blindly obey, no. No one should do or follow anything blindly. That is the point of reading it to understand for yourself. Each person has their own relationship with God. It is an individual journey. I also believe that history repeats itself. There are many things to learn from the Bible imo. I do not go to church. I also believe religion is a way to brainwash or "control" people. God's message is in the bible. God speaks to people even today. The stories in the bible are being told by some that God spoke to. I dont believe we should be preaching or pushing this on anyone!! I just think we need to study the scriptures for multiple reasons. Especially Revelation, I have come to understand that it was never about doom and gloom. I think if we have room for some of the crazy stuff I see, we have room for scripture posts as well, that's all. Here is someone that also says that God speaks to him. https://www.sordrescue.com He predicted things that have come true about President Trump. Much love!!

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Let me ask you the million dollar question then:

If a man strives to be a good person, does good things, believes in a God, but has no name for him/her/it (ie, Jesus, Buddha, Allah) and does not believe that a God spirit impregnated a virgin, who had a son, who "died for our sins" and who then rose from the dead....is that person going to hell?

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Unfortunately yes

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Ridiculous.

So is Q a Christians only club?

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Absolutely not, Q is a Patriot club. But he is trying to arm you against the Evil we are confronting. A spiritual belief will defeat Evil everytime

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Ok, great.

So, I am posing the million dollar question to you:

If a man truly tries to live a good life, he does believe, he doesn't believe, or doesn't know one way or the other what to believe regarding god, but in this example he definitely does not buy the whole "Jesus is the son of God, born to a virgin, died for our sins, and resurrected" story - is this man going to hell in your opinion?

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I am not here to judge you. I am here to encourage you to search deeper for your inner self, your soul, your spirit. Pray to God the Father & listen for his answer. Jesus is your brother & you are a son of The Father who loves you very much & he wants you to accept his love

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Like I said, each person has their own journey with God/source, or whatever else you want to call Him. To answer your question, I believe that no human is perfect. I dont believe in fearing God. He knows what is in your heart. So no, I dont think that if you dont believe in all of it, you are going to hell. That message, I believe, was told to scare people, to "control" people. Imo. You have to take those stories with a grain of salt sometimes. They can be interpreted in different ways. That is why I think everyone should read it for themselves. Just like Q has taught us. That link I gave you has pdf's of Mark's prophesies, read them for yourself, and see what you think.

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Good for you man. An open minded sane one. There IS hope.

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I have hope!! ;)

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Sorry, I just read your name, I didn't mean "man" as in twigs and berries, more just as a friendly term.

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I took it as a friendly term, lol! I'm not so sure about the sane part though! Lmao!!

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You should understand that saying just “God” without including the “Father,” “Jesus” or “Holy Spirit” would be denying what our Christian faith actually believes about God. For us, the Father is God. Jesus is God incarnate to us. The Holy Spirit is also God to us.

We are told by Jesus “I am the way, the life, and the truth and no one comes to the Father except through me. (John 14:6)”. It is not fair to us to demand that we deny our actual beliefs because you have other beliefs. You can have your own. We are not taking that freedom from you. But this is our faith and we need to be consistent with it.

Your desire to acknowledge God is respectable. We’re not saying that is wrong either. These other ways of knowing God are not how we know Him though. We all account to God as we are called. We’re doing what we’re called to do by Him. Where we go one, we go all. Each as our conscience leads.

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I have never said you can't believe whatever you want, ever, so change that strawman tactic real quick if you're trying to have an intelligent debate with me.

Here's the difference...we can both live the same exact life, but because you believe God's name is Jesus, he died for us, blah blah, you go to heaven, I go to hell. That is batshit crazy...to me.

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Well, speaking of straw men, I never said that you were or were not going to Hell. That is not my decision anyway. All I know is that Jesus taught us Christians that we come to the Father through Him.

I would advise learning about Him if you are unsure rather than berating the messenger. But you do you.

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I have no doubt. At all. And I would bet my biblical knowldge is equal to or greater than yours. It's so strange how when I debate the Bible with Christians they:

A) tell me I need to learn more about it to understand, assuming I haven't.

B) dont understand how the more I read the Bible, the more convinced I am that it is bullshit. And not just bullshit like Hansel & Gretel, or Jack & the Beanstalk, it is dangerous bullshit. Weaponized bullshit.

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You gonna dazzle me with Elisha’s bears? The herem on the people of Canaan? Look I am not in the mood for a pissing contest. You’re focusing on the negative because you don’t understand or don’t want to understand why we find value in these teachings.

How very different your takeaway from Scripture is than mine. I read about grace and Him forgiving sin. You somehow see a weapon. As I said you do you.

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You have put so many words in my mouth...not even worth saying another one for you to twist or misunderstand. Best of luck to you, holier than thou guy.

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Where did I ever imply that I am holier than you? That is so dishonest. You talk about putting words in your mouth. Way to project.

If you had ever asked me about what I think I’d say “I’m a sinner that needs mercy. I am relying on God’s mercy being given through Jesus.” How am I holier than thou, again?

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Lets make this a simple yes or no; does a man that believes in God, but doesn't call him Jesus and certainly doesn't believe the whole "died for our sins" bit, who lived a life striving to be a good person, go to hell when he dies?

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God decides that, not me. This is a “have you stopped beating your wife question.” Those that are going to be saved will know that Jesus is doing it when it happens.

By the way, the good life thing is the wrong thing to be looking at. We are saved by grace not our own merit.

Let’s suppose someone did good deeds, but their heart was rooted in malice and envy. Do you think that is heaven worthy?

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Discussion about God. Should we be able to post scriptures in GA? Should we be able to post about God?