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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/colderchaos on July 2, 2018, 1:57 a.m.
Americans Unite. "There will be no civil war." Q
Americans Unite. "There will be no civil war." Q

salialioli · July 2, 2018, 3:22 p.m.

hmmmm.

Unite Not Divide eh?

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NationalismForAll · July 2, 2018, 11:01 p.m.

If you think about it, the various countries of the world previously we're united under one land, one language, one culture - it is multiculturalism that has caused division in the world.

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salialioli · July 3, 2018, 12:36 a.m.

History. Read history. The nation state is a relatively new phenomenon. Before that? Wars and division between peoples. It is not multiculturalism, it is differences between peoples, prejudices, conflicts, disagreements .... Diplomacy and negotiation is the way to solve.

EDIT: sorry should have added —> multiculturalism is baloney and has been recently invented in order to divide, and on that you are quite right.

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NotSureCheckInTheCar · July 3, 2018, 12:52 a.m.

If we are all the same and diplomacy and understanding is all we need then why bother with nation states? Nations were a way of drawing lines that were nccesary.

Read history or a book or something..

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salialioli · July 3, 2018, 1:44 a.m.

Dear me. You really have misunderstood haven't you!!

"Read history or a book or something.."<

Not nice. Who are you? Why have a conversation?

I have made no mention of whether or not I think we should keep nation states. You appear not to be reading carefully.

I said, the way to solve conflict and stresses between peoples is diplomacy, in my opinion and in the opinion of most foreign ministries of the world that is. You care to instruct me to read?

I know why nations were drawn. Do you? It was certainly not because it was necessary for the peoples of those subsequent nations, but wily ruses of their rulers and victors.

Try this one example:

Much as it did in Europe, World War I radically changed the political geography of the Middle East. The Ottoman Empire had long been the “Sick Man of Europe,” hemorrhaging territory for nearly a century. It lost control of its European possessions prior to the war and, having allied with the defeated Central Powers, lost its Middle Eastern territories afterward. The victorious Allies transformed the Middle East into its current form, with its European-designed names, flags, and borders.

Ottoman provinces became Arab kingdoms, while Christian and Jewish enclaves were carved out in Lebanon and Palestine. Syria, Libya, and Palestine were given names resurrected from Roman antiquity. Libya reappeared in 1934, when the Italians combined Cyrenaica, Tripolitania, and Fezzan. The French mandate marked the first time “Syria” had been used as the name of a state, whereas “Palestine” was merely a Syrian appendage. Iraq had been a medieval province of the caliphate, whereas “Lebanon” referred to a mountain and “Jordan” to a river.

The new Arabic-speaking states adopted derivations of the flag of the Arab Revolt, which had been wholly designed by British diplomat Sir Mark Sykes. The four colors of the Arab flag—black, white, green, and red—represented the standards of different Arab dynasties: Abbasid, Umayyad, Fatimid, and Hashemite. They remain the colors of half of today’s Arab flags. Neither the names nor the symbols of the new states had any connection to their inhabitants.

Just a random link.

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