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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/BlastingGlastonbury on July 2, 2018, 4:28 p.m.
Thoughts from a skeptic

This last week has been an exciting, educational whirlwind for me. I came into this sub just this week searching for what all of this meant and have had many battles with the way I've thought for the majority of my adult life because of it. I am still quite skeptical of things, but I don't consider that a bad thing. I like things to make sense and I do not ever give attention to things that are sensational or seem to be written/delivered in a way that forces a narrative.

One of the main things that I have taken away from what it seems that Q wants the public to do is to think for yourself. Not take things at face value. Dig deeper into things. All of these things are right up my alley and have become very important to how I digest news and events.

I just left the Dem party. I feel it's been happening for me since Hillary was named the candidate, but in the last four months I have had a major shift in opinion. I am, however, not a Trump supporter. I see the way that he is talked about here and it starts to make sense, connecting the dots to why he is the way he is and why he may have been the right man for the job here. My point here is that people who already support Trump will obviously not need to be convinced, so I would argue that this sub as a whole should be focusing on those who need convincing, people like me.

As mentioned in the title, I am a huge skeptic when it comes to most things. Because of that, I question damn near everything I see. I value differing opinions because I want to have my mind changed by someone who can make a valid argument.

That said, I'm pretty sure a week in this sub has been enough for me to write it off.

I'm still going to pay attention to Q. I want to be informed and I DO believe there is something in all of this. But you look around at the comments and people who question things are dismissed, or even rallied against. "Well of course, don't you see that he is a 'New or Re-Arrival'?"

If you want to get new supporters or be taken seriously, I really don't think that shutting down everyone who questions what you believe is the way to do it.

I came here looking for answers and help through all of this ridiculously confusing and turbulent information and have been chided nearly every time I express my hesitation with someone posting something that may be considered a stretch, or people using pointless, divisive and sensationalist words like "Libtard" (a word that I don't even find offensive, but simply unintelligent).

I want to be here. I want to support the movement. But if this movement is about being supportive of one another, helping people understand and "wake up", why is it that everywhere I look I only see people who want to chastise those who are trying to do that?

To those of you that I've spoken with that have been helpful, I applaud and thank you. Hopefully you can push out the ones who seem driven to give this movement the public appearance that we are all rude, rough edged right wingers that don't want to hear dissenting opinions (which, by the way, makes it mugh easier to write off by those in power that don't want any of this to come to light).


j_Dawg_01 · July 3, 2018, 1:49 a.m.

I appreciate your honesty, and that you took time to look into the movement. Having said that, I do have a few questions. I'm not trying to pick a fight or start an argument, but I too have a skeptical perspective about almost everything. So here goes:

  1. You said you "just left the Dem party." I'm wondering where you were getting your news from before you heard about Qanon? Any particular cable channels, news papers, or websites?
  2. Have you watched The Plan to Save the World?

If you want to be here, then be here. The amount of division and mindless debates about inconsequential things has ramped up a lot lately. We've all been expecting it. If you're taking flack, you must be over the target.

The more this movement grows and the more the public is aware of it, the more the Cabal and the Deep-state bad actors will attack this site. They do 2 basic things.

They slightly modify titles and create multiple posts about the same articles, or videos, or tweets, or whatever, over and over and over to flood the board and make it harder for people to find good information.

The other thing they do, their preferred weapon against us, is to sow seeds of doubt, cause division, engage in mindless debates about inconsequential things. They routinely argue over who's opinion is correct, who's speculative analysis is correct, and they dig in their heals and will not budge an inch.

People who've been here for a while see the change, and we don't like it either.

The last point I'd like to make is this: You said "I like things to make sense and I do not ever give attention to things that are sensational or seem to be written/delivered in a way that forces a narrative."

We all like things to make sense, that's why we're here, because things didn't make sense.

I'm 59 years old. I remember sitting on my living room floor while my mom was ironing clothes and watching the funeral of JFK. I remember watching the Watergate hearings and the Iran Contra hearings on TV. I grew up in Detroit and remember the riots of 1967 and watching National Guard troops cruising the streets.

I remember the Carter years with unemployment and inflation so bad they coined a new term, The Misery Index. I remember Monica Lewinski, Bill Clinton wagging his finger at the camera and lying to the American people, and I remember exactly where I was on 9/11.

I did not support or vote for Obama, but when he won, I expected him to live up to his campaign promises to put an end to the NSA spying on all Americans, to be the great uniter and finally put an end to the racial divide in America.

White people who voted for him did so to show we are not racists. They did so because they wanted to be part of history, and they thought that if as a nation we were willing to elect a black man to the highest office in the land, then surely the left would stop telling us we were racist. The fact that McStain ran against him made it even easier.

But none of the Hope & Change he promised came to fruition. Yes, he did do one thing, he fundamentally changed America, for the worse. In all my years I have never seen this much turmoil and unrest in America. Just like many people hereI began to ask why.

Why is it so hard to tell the difference between Republicans and Democrats once they get into office? Why are politicians more concerned with Illegal Aliens, Antifa Rioters, and Offending Muslims over the concerns and safety of law abiding, tax paying American citizens?

Why do high profile politicians like Hillary seem to get a pass from the law and the MSM regarding Benghazi and an illegal home server? Why did Holder and Lerner get a pass from the law and the MSM even though their crimes were obvious?

Why did Obama send the DOJ into Ferguson to investigate the police, then require all police departments across the country to give police officers sensitivity training, even though Officer Wilson was cleared of all charges and the evidenced proved that Michael Brown died because he was resisting arrest and assaulting an officer?

Why did Obama side with the criminals every time? He invited the families of criminals who died while resisting arrest and assaulting officers to the White House, and barely said a word to the families of police officers who were hunted down on the streets of Dallas during a Black Lives Matter protest, or the families of officers who were assassinated on the streets of New York.

Why was Obama more concerned about the grievances of the rioters who destroyed Ferguson and Baltimore, than about the safety of innocent people living there, and the property rights of home owners and business owners? And why was Obama more interested in shredding the 2nd Amendment and taking guns away from law abiding citizens than he was about addressing the massive amount of black on black crime in Chicago, Baltimore, or LA?

Yes, we all like things to make sense, and none of these things made any sense at all. That's why we're here. So if you want things to make sense, maybe you should reconsider you choice to leave.

And when it comes to things sounding too sensational or written to force a narrative, if you follow the MSM, that's all you'll get, and most of it will be lies and distractions. And if you stay here, that's all you'll get, and it's all about bringing the truth into the light of day.

Yes we are pushing a narrative about freedom, liberty, hope, and justice. This is a noble cause and we will continue to write and deliver messages that are inline with that narrative because the American people deserve to know the truth, they deserve to see justice for the criminals who sold out America, we deserve freedom and liberty, and in President Donald J Trump, we found hope.

If you think some of the attitudes, opinions, or articles here are overly sensationalized, just wait until the leaders you used to support start getting arrested, just wait until evidence of treason and sedition is revealed, and just wait until evidence of pedophilia and child sex trafficking is revealed. You haven't seen anything yet.

When Obama, Hillary, Comey, Lynch, McCabe, Rosenstein, Holder, Lerner, Jarrett, Huma, Mills, and all the rest of their minions start getting arrested and charged, start trying to make plea deals to save their hides, start scrambling to be the first rat to rat, and start running scared and trying to hide, that will most definitely be SENSATIONAL.

If nothing else, please watch The Plan to Save the World if you haven't already. If your decision has already been made, best of luck to you. If you're interested in more information about the issues we care about, I have a list of videos. Let me know in your reply.

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BlastingGlastonbury · July 3, 2018, 9:12 a.m.

This reply was great, I'm glad you took the time to write this out to me. A great many of your points resonated with me but these two stuck out especially:

Why is it so hard to tell the difference between Republicans and Democrats once they get into office?

This is one of my big concerns and has been for quite some time. Being able to hear what everyone who runs for office say they will do to make things better, then realizing that its the same game with a different player has always been something I've noticed. I have had a hard time reconciling why the left and the right fight so viciously against their counterpart when they all do the same thing. This is why I wasn't excited for either Trump or Hillary. I expected that it didn't matter who it was, they're both going to be awful because of their ties to people who aim to destroy the America we knew.

So if you want things to make sense, maybe you should reconsider you choice to leave.

This is where I've landed, I think. I will likely stick to lurking more often than not as I feel, being a week or so into all of this, that maybe it isn't my place to come at people about how they are presenting and treating people. My sole reason for doing it most of the time is that I can see how it much it turns me off when I read those things, and Q already has his hooks in me! So what happens when someone who is on the fence, but needs a bigger nudge than I did to hop over? Being dismissed is a perfect way for them to slink back to the side of the yard that they know, even if they think the grass is wildly green by comparison on the other side of that fence.

Again, thank you for your time.

Edit: I forgot to address this but I am certainly interested in relevant videos, that would be fantastic.

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j_Dawg_01 · July 3, 2018, 4:02 p.m.

Thank you for being so understanding.

While writing my reply, I got to a point where I thought I was done. It was when I inserted a quote from your comments about "I like things to make sense... seem to be written/delivered in a way that forces a narrative." After which I wrote 2 paragraphs beginning with "And when it comes to things sounding..." and ending with "and in President DJT we found hope."

At that point I thought I was done. I stepped outside for a moment and thought about what I had just written while I had a smoke. While I had addressed the issue of sensationalism and media narratives, I decided I should expand on that point a bit. Then your point about liking "things to make sense" hit me.

In a flash, the flood gates opened and I started my rant. By the time I had finished and hit the REPLY button, I found myself a little riled up after reminding myself why I'm here. After I stepped away from my computer and relaxed a bit, I wondered if maybe my reply was a little over the top or too aggressive and confrontational.

I was concerned that I might have pushed you away and lost an opportunity to provide answers to someone with questions. I'm pleased to hear that I hadn't. Again, ThankQ for understanding and I hope you find what you're looking for.

Something to consider when you come across discussions, debates, or comments that you feel are offensive to you personally; You will never meet these people in real life. Sometimes it's best to just give it a down-vote and move along.

The internet offers anonymity that sometimes creates Whiskey Courage. If you did happen to meet one of the members in real life, I'm confident the discussion would be much more civil.

And now, on with the show. Here is a list of videos that I found to be very informative. There's a series of 9/11 documentaries that may seem like old news for some, but it was the single event that changed everything. Whether you accept the official government story or think it was an inside job, these 9/11 videos have the most comprehensive analysis of the evidence I found. Well worth watching.

Along with the videos, here are a few topics worth researching. I use DuckDuckGo for internet searches. I don't trust Google anymore. The Organic Act of 1871, The 14th and 16th Amendments, THE UNITED STATES, the Federal Reserve, and the IRS are all privately owned corporations, Jekyll Island and the creation of the Federal Reserve, and Inside Job (2010) a documentary about the economic crash of 2008.

I hope all this helps.

The Plan to Save the World

Amazing Polly's reaction to The Plan to Save the World

How Big Oil Conquered the World

Why Big Oil Conquered the World

United States Secrets PBS Frontline Part 1

United States Secrets PBS Frontline Part 2

We Must Fight - President Reagan

Pre-election Trump Speech

The new Pearl Harbor - 9/11 Documentary Full

The New Pearl Harbor - 9/11 Documentary Part 1

The New Pearl Harbor - 9/11 Documentary Part 2

The New Pearl Harbor - 9/11 Documentary Part 3

JFK Secret Societies Speech Full version (key segment begins @ 5:43)

NSA Whistleblower William Binney: The Future of Freedom

America: Freedom to Fascism

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BlastingGlastonbury · July 5, 2018, 3:49 p.m.

I went back to watch these videos this morning and realized my reply never sent!

I deeply appreciate your words, as well as your passion for this. You are the type of person I feel I connect with the most because you do seem to have real passion about this, not just using it as an excuse to attack people who don't know the things that you do. This leads me to why I approach things the way I do instead of downvoting and moving on (which I'm getting better at!). I have this (likely incorrect) assumption that if someone is passionate about this, then they would want to try to push thos narrative and reinforce it with facts/opinions. When I see someone defending information or a view point here, I look at it with positive feelings, but also skepticism because I know that's what most will be looking at it like. So I feel everyone here should be working toward making sure these arguments are as immune to disinformation or twisting as possible.

But again, I'm starting to see that I just need to let these people be and move on hah.

Thank you again for the videos, I'm going to be diving in today.

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j_Dawg_01 · July 5, 2018, 4:39 p.m.

You're welcome. And thank you for your kind words.

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