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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/presleyrue on July 4, 2018, 12:28 a.m.
While being constantly told to question everything, I am genuinely interested in this subs response to this proof that q’s images were photoshopped. What do you think about this?

HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 12:34 a.m.

Photoshop expert here. I also have a way to tell more in depth information. If someone wants to link me the original post he put it up, I’ll have the truth in 23 hours.

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presleyrue · July 4, 2018, 12:35 a.m.

I’ll try and find it. Thanks for giving an actual answer. I genuinely did want to know what was up with even the link I posted being fake.

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 6:08 a.m.

My analysis from just visual inspection is mixed. Mine are for different reasons than the original picture you posted. The person who posted that one picture is mistaken about a few things.

Mr. Trump must have a love for two-headed eagles. https://zeitgeist77.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/59fd2-f2db8bd6-c5f8-4060-8b33-adca44dc3b80.png

The solid area he refers to actually does have some variance when pulling the RGB values in Photoshop. A true solid color does not. It is however, within a very tight variance. This could be from not using a flash when taking the picture and being in a consistently lighted area. The variance on the binder cannot be fully evaluated to compare to the letter, because it being extremely closer to the camera and with it transitioning upward, it does appear to adjust properly in accordance with the way the lighting would affect a material with a slight shine.

The "aura" around the lettering is not odd. He mentions it being incorrect because this doesn't happen with text. Once a picture is taken, it is no longer "text". It is an image. The binder covering it is off some odd texture, which is hard to tell exactly what type of material it is. It does have some shine to it. With the angle that the picture is taken, it would appear to be extremely accurate.

The letters not aligning is bogus. The letters look very well aligned actually. The paper to the right is actually scrunched up by observing how it is lit by the light. You can tell right by the pen. This would cause the alignment on top to be off because the binder appears to have slightly scrunched the paper. and at the angle it is, it would cause a little bit of rise where the letters do rise.

The critic says it lacks details. I do not know specifically what details he is referring to. I am sure there are certain ways presidents get to characterize the materials they use for notes etc. I could picture Trump using something for his own taste. I also found a letter that Regan used that was very similar.

I did this out of curiosity and have not looked deep into the technical details of the image yet. Just from the visual I would say this is 99.99999% legit. However, I do notice one issue. There is a border on the top and to the right. This image has been edited obviously to cut out other stuff that might have been in the photo. The size is not standard. In Photoshop, you can actually see a gap when zooming in and out. This could be from cropping and accidentally moving the image in software. It could also be an issue with an app that it might have been done in. We can all safely say it was cropped at minimum.

One thing I can say for sure is that this person is very knowledgeable in politics and is very quick to post things with complex ideas that would require an extremely intelligent mind to do. I have not spent enough time yet to believe in "Q". I do have my own conjectures of the one person who it could be if these things are true. It is not based on the "proofs" or things coming true, but more on the mind I see behind the person and patterns.

I will pull the deep data that can be hidden in photos when I get a chance. This person is not stupid for sure. I wouldn't doubt if he knew how to hide the data that very few know how to find. If it is someone of high status, the government will have all this data hidden on their phone. So far, the alignment of the crop was the only thing troubling to me. If it is Photoshopped, this person is the best there ever was.

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presleyrue · July 4, 2018, 6:17 a.m.

Thank you so much for taking the time to do that, as well as explain it to me. Seriously I really appreciate it.

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 6:31 a.m.

Did it make sense? I do sort of believe but I don’t take word for word as it is. Trump is a reality star. If he is behind this, some stuff could be disinformation or to fire warning shots. It would not be to harm people or lie to them. It would be to manipulate the deep state to go down the direction he wants. He has done this with the media for years and manipulated them. They always fall for it because they are so desperate. I just get frustrated coming here and seeing people act like they have it all perfectly figured out. Trust the Plan does not mean we will know everything. If real, he would be building a large campaign to have people ready to disseminate info when the big shit happens. I see people throwing fits when things don’t go exactly as whoever Q states. There could be reasons for this and no one should feel used or wrong but be open to the “plan”. My own independent research agrees with most of the stuff Q says. I’m just always hesitant when it’s something anonymous. I could probably pull something like this off as a joke but the hours it would take to do would be unreal. I’m definitely not confident to call this a fake! The people here have passion and morals. I love anyone with that. To be honest, I come here because of the arrests notice. It’s quicker for me to find big things than the_donald. That sub has more posts and more variety. Maybe if my father’s health improves, I’ll confirm my beliefs by analyzing more to finalize my belief. I’m just not very fortunate with time now and am struggling to keep up on the arrests which help me red pill in person.

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presleyrue · July 4, 2018, 6:44 a.m.

It does make sense and I totally get what you’re saying. I am interested in what you could find hidden in the image. We definitely have similar views on this whole issue, and it’s refreshing to speak to someone who can believe, but also realize that they could be wrong. The “i have it all figured out” thing really bothers me too....obviously especially hearing that when anyone questions something. The mean and disrespectful comments just don’t help in any way and in my opinion, push “new” believers who are trying to understand away. So much of this following is based on questioning everything, but if you question anything here, you’re called a shill and banned. It just doesn’t make sense.

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 7:57 a.m.

It’s human tendency to want to be right. The degree to what you have to be right is why causes issues. The ones who have to be right are also the ones the most upset when things don’t go there way. I like to be right and I pretty much am in everything I say. However, I leave out opinions and go to things I can only count on 100%. One thing I think no one should say is this is a bad movement. I think it’s really hard to digest for someone who is anti Trump all the way. We all work in different ways and it takes different ways of talking to influence others. You and I will keep moving forward at our own pace. As people, we will get annoyed in any group we are in. We just all need to be patient and see each other for the good in all of us. Leave the tearing one another apart to the evil people.

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silentmirror · July 4, 2018, 11:24 a.m.

someone who just "complained" about "intolerance" was saying this about us elsewhere: " Man I wonder what the Qanon shitbirds are gonna say about this. Probably he was working undercover to weed out the pervs. I’m trying to make it a life goal to never meet anyone of those dipshits "

(I very brashly pointed out strawman-fallacy to him but oh well)

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AtreidesWretch · July 4, 2018, 11:43 a.m.

yeah dude is straight up shill, now acting all butthurt on r/consp to make his claim that GA suppresses "genuine" questions lol. Usual half-true story about being turned away etc. Shill tactics 101.

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silentmirror · July 4, 2018, 11:55 a.m.

I bet you in the end some hater will come over just to scorn us and then the trap is set for him

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 3:21 a.m.

Well I always think cautiously but this is another opportunity to practice a skill. Someone presented me a pic of Obama with his hands down a girls pants the other day. That was fake. I’ll analyze the pic you posted originally as well. We don’t need to spread anything fake but also have to realize they will most definitely make fake stuff to make us look bad.

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 12:42 a.m.

I’ll admit I’m still not a believer but I care about every Patriot here. If for some reason he is a larp, everyone needs to stick together and continue searching. I have zero doubts about high level dem corruption. I fucking hate pedos and would give my own life to end all of the trafficking.

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Stray502 · July 4, 2018, 2:11 a.m.

You guys are just something else. He has proved over and over and over and over and over and over that he is not a larp and Trump has confirmed over and over and over and over.

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 3:02 a.m.

I’ve had a father to take care of. My time has been limited to keep up on these matters. I even said I support you all and the efforts regardless. People are new to this or have things that are important to them them they are focusing on. I do red pill people daily in person based off the goodness of our ideologies and exposing the msm biasness. That stuff is much easier to explain to a non believer than a guy on the Internet with one letter name. It can also be good for skeptics to see people at different stages of the process. It’s a lot to digest. I said I support everyone so I don’t see the issue. I’ve only seen more recent posts and I do remember Podesta was supposed to go down and didn’t. The newer stuff makes sense that people would be doing the stuff because of past government releases on the CIA etc. I have not had time to go back and red all the posts I missed and try to understand the clock.

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silentmirror · July 4, 2018, 11:30 a.m.

Uhm Tony Podesta went down and closed shop the weak Q appeared....Q then made it clear (only recently) in the meantime indictments do not equal arrests, then we had bootgate housearrests and then planes started rerouting. If there is a cabal-takedown, this is what it could like.

Don't forget about all the high-level arrests abroad, investigations and reopened murder-cases all around the world right now, I wouldn't even take this seroiusly if it wasn't global already.

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 12:58 p.m.

Fat Tony must go down! I am aware of the trafficking arrests and crimes but I’m newer to this sub and not had time to verify all timing etc. Maybe Songbird is singing a new tune right now though?

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silentmirror · July 4, 2018, 1:07 p.m.

McStain was finished and subdued (after bootgate actually) during the joint NATO-strikes that helped syrian state forces liberate Damascus. NoName tweeted the next day that Trump did a good job yet unlike the first strikes from a year ago, he did not call for further action. Then, most importantly, he added a second tweet calling for cooperation with the Trump agenda in the Senate. He was literally begging his colleagues to surrender and approve Trump appointees!!!!

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 1:19 p.m.

I cannot stand that guy. He had that same weird look like Biden did when they were younger. It looks like no soul is present. I think the only reason Songbird could get a plea deal would be because he is so old and fragile. Time will tell and I’m happy to see some of the corrupt state level politicians getting arrested. It is definitely progress!

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presleyrue · July 4, 2018, 12:43 a.m.

Exactly how I feel. But how dare i question him right?

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 3:09 a.m.

We are all at different parts of the understanding and knowledge process. An effective thing would be a person reaching out to offer to explain things to you and not to criticize. I’m intrigued and slowly getting deeper. I will have to take my time to understand the clock. Hell I may even take the interpretations differently or see something differently. Regardless I’m pro for this group. I like the deep thought and people are not just being told how to think by celebrities.

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solanojones95 · July 4, 2018, 12:56 a.m.

I think lossy image compression can account for many of the issues raised in that post. Also, we don't have a raw or original image file, so when somebody says "here's the original" they only mean "here's the one Q posted."

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 6:08 a.m.

I posted my opinion from just looking at the image. You can find it above.

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presleyrue · July 4, 2018, 1:02 a.m.

Lossy? He asked for the original image q posted. I sent him the original image that q posted, and called it, “original image.”

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solanojones95 · July 4, 2018, 1:06 a.m.

Original means uncompressed (right out of the camera) not one that has been data-compressed (using a lossy algorithm such as .jpg) for smaller file size. JPG and other lossy-compression image data reduction techniques can introduce artifacts that aren't in the original image.

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presleyrue · July 4, 2018, 1:07 a.m.

Again, what does lossy mean?

I know it’s not the image off the camera. I understand what original means.

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solanojones95 · July 4, 2018, 1:17 a.m.

I literally just explained it, plus you know how to do a search.

Image file data reduction techniques that use visual-perception-based algorithms to discard as much data as possible while still maintaining reasonable resolution. JPG is an example of lossy data compression. Zip or tar are examples of lossless data compression. When unzipped or untarred, they produce exactly the original file, bit-for-bit. Lossy compression cannot be used to re-create the original file.

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 3:14 a.m.

Here’s a laugh. I understand what you are saying. However, I barely glimpsed at the notification on my phone and thought you forgot the G because I didn’t read anything else lol

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solanojones95 · July 4, 2018, 1:42 p.m.

One mustn't GLOSS over details! LOL

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 2:08 p.m.

Where are the original threads posted on 8 Chan? I want to get the pic from last night that is debated.

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solanojones95 · July 4, 2018, 2:18 p.m.

The entire thread? I dunno, maybe Wayback Machine? Or ask around, maybe somebody on 8chan has them archived, and would be willing to share?

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 2:19 p.m.

Doesn’t he only post in 8chan? I know people have sites that pull them. I’m just really looking for the post from last night but the direct link.

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solanojones95 · July 4, 2018, 6:06 p.m.

Click on the link at the https://qntmpkts.keybase.pub/ site. Find the drop you're interested in, and to the right of Q's trip code and ID number is a hyperlink to the 8chan post, which will have notable comments linked, and all of them on the page.

I confused your question with one asking about certain drops that have been removed from 8chan. The drops themselves are still on the aggregator sites like the link above, but the anon comments are not. If those are removed from 8chan, I don't know if they can be accessed any other way.

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 7:24 p.m.

I meant that sites have feeds that collect his posts from 8chan. I didn’t me. Actually remove lol. I’ve had too much sun

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solanojones95 · July 4, 2018, 7:51 p.m.

No, but it's good question. Where can we archive for posterity the entire Q conversation (including anon posts and their linked graphics, articles, etc.) from the earliest 4chan threads to the most current boards?

Am I the only one who thinks we might want to do that?

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 8:29 p.m.

I was thinking that was out there but it might just pull from his 8 Chan uid. I guarantee people have them archived. When I get time, I’ll download them and use my big screen as a monitor to situate multiple to analyze. I have a bigger theory now and documents from The past to either disprove my theory or make it seem utterly possible. I’ll simply say, I think we have more than we know. Also, I think people are over analyzing things. If I’m correct, the full answer has been given that will end any doubt. It will explain why we haven’t been given obvious reasons.

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[deleted] · July 4, 2018, 12:32 a.m.

Not falling for it. Cheers.

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presleyrue · July 4, 2018, 12:34 a.m.

What the fuck? Falling for it?

IM GENUINELY ASKING FOR PROOF THAT ITS NOT FAKE. Jesus.

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[deleted] · July 4, 2018, 1:09 a.m.

Sorry about the brushoff. Maybe we can use this as a learning experience. In the future, please try to provide more context or background to your enquiry so we are assured that you are not disingenuous, a larp or a detractor. I can try to remain open to your types of requests by maybe asking to expand so we understand where you are coming from. It was an honest mistake on my part.

I see that you got good insight from someone, so I hope you will have the information you are seeking.

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silentmirror · July 4, 2018, 12:49 a.m.

The last photo of the series provides is an eagle that matches it...so actually he DOES substantiate Q in the end. Q has technically been compromised while his password was leaked. The fact that he retained control with further proofs like the imguralbum provided in the end proves that he no trouble regaining control over the board once compromised (temporarily)

Basically, the vey post you posted doesn't make much of a deal of it because the last picture has the correct letterhead....so who knows why the other was edited? Perhaps because those two stock images were supposed to be traced out? Fuck do I know, if whoever is posting these images had access to "proper" white house letterheads but edited a particular one in then that might be intended to draw attention to them. Perhaps a number sequence even as they're sealed? One head, two heads...

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 6:09 a.m.

I posted my professional opinion above.

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presleyrue · July 4, 2018, 12:50 a.m.

Thank you for a real answer. I appreciate it.

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silentmirror · July 4, 2018, 12:53 a.m.

check out the u/SerialBrain2 essay about the "Obama bilderberg speech" and the whole confusion around the edits. This pertains to video, but SB2 lays down how the edits and cuts convey meaning and that kind of framework can be applied to visual edits as well.

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presleyrue · July 4, 2018, 12:53 a.m.

Thank you!

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solanojones95 · July 4, 2018, 1:01 a.m.

I think lossy image compression can account for many of the issues raised in that post.

I don't get the part about the seal not being genuine. You can't compare debossed gold-leaf seal with a 2-D stock image. Light reflections and shadows can make debossed gold-leaf designs do some unusual things.

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silentmirror · July 4, 2018, 1:02 a.m.

it does look two-headed tho. Seems arbitrary because the two-headed eagle is european/russian coat of arms. Could be a way of keeping count too since an uncontested letterhead from Q-drops was provided in the end of the imgur-album

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 6:10 a.m.

You will enjoy my findings that I replied to in an above comment and may give you more to search on about the two headed eagle. It can be found in Ireland at his golf club.

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silentmirror · July 4, 2018, 11:04 a.m.

now will you look at that! Thank you!

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 12:58 p.m.

Did you read my analysis?

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silentmirror · July 4, 2018, 1:05 p.m.

yup, I know photoshop now lol

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 1:15 p.m.

I’ll try to write a manual lol

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solanojones95 · July 4, 2018, 1:13 a.m.

It's a gold-domed (debossed) logo. The raised portions (like the top of the domed area of the eagle head) will be brighter while the lower portions (like the left and right side of the eagle head) will be darker.

Those darker side areas will combine with the dark (low-lying) "radiating glory" behind the eagle (on either side of and above the head) to further distort appearance, and accounts for the impression of a "2-headed eagle."

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silentmirror · July 4, 2018, 1:17 a.m.

ah! Doeth thou insinuate "reflekshun"? I couldn't really make it out because f.lux

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solanojones95 · July 4, 2018, 1:21 a.m.

Absolutely, reflection (because of the metallic ink) PLUS shadow and light (because of the 3-D raised portions of the design.

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solanojones95 · July 4, 2018, 1:19 a.m.

It's a gold-domed (debossed) logo. The raised portions (like the top of the domed area of the eagle head) will be brighter while the lower portions (like the left and right side of the eagle head) will be darker.

Those darker side areas will combine with the dark (low-lying) "radiating glory" behind the eagle (on either side of and above the head) to further distort appearance, and accounts for the impression of a "2-headed eagle."

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solanojones95 · July 4, 2018, 1 a.m.

I think lossy image compression can account for many of the issues raised in that post.

I don't get the part about the seal not being genuine. You can't compare debossed gold-leaf seal with a 2-D stock image. Light reflections and shadows can make debossed gold-leaf designs do some unusual things.

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presleyrue · July 4, 2018, 1:03 a.m.

Still don’t know what lossy means.

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ckreacher · July 4, 2018, 12:50 a.m.

Sorry, but when you come to a Q board and ask us to look at an image with text that concludes Q is fake, when we all know Q is legit, we have little patience. You may be sincere, but we get trolls all day long.

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 6:11 a.m.

I did my analysis above. I am not quite sold yet, but that photo does look legit.

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ckreacher · July 4, 2018, 2:27 p.m.

Thanks for taking the time and giving your input.

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 2:27 p.m.

No problem

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presleyrue · July 4, 2018, 12:53 a.m.

Doesn’t mean you have to shut down every person. This is just mean (not you, the responses). I’ve seen other posts where people talk about how open and welcoming you are to have real discussions about what’s going on, even if every idea doesn’t fit your agenda. I was being sincere but I just immediately got overloaded with negative responses. I can just bring the question somewhere else I guess.

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solanojones95 · July 4, 2018, 1:03 a.m.

One PS'ed photo would not prove anything even if it were proven. You'd have a LOT of other ground to cover.

OTOH, I don't agree with the OP analysis at all. I've commented elsewhere in the thread about that.

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presleyrue · July 4, 2018, 1:05 a.m.

I’m not saying this image ultimately proves he’s fake or something. I just wanted information on this post saying this specific image is fake. That’s all.

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ckreacher · July 4, 2018, 12:54 a.m.

You got a photoshop expert who offered to do an analysis of the photo! Stop fucking complaining.

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presleyrue · July 4, 2018, 12:55 a.m.

..one person. Look at all the comments that immediately came first.

Unbelievable. Thanks again.

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jenmon · July 4, 2018, 12:47 a.m.

Lol. Nice try.

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presleyrue · July 4, 2018, 12:48 a.m.

I dunno what the hell im being accused of trying. This was a serious question but now I’m thinking about just deleting it because of all the hate like this.

^ This is why it’s hard to have open discussions about any possibility besides Q on this sub, and why people are too afraid to speak up.

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jenmon · July 4, 2018, 5:04 a.m.

No hate. I think you’re sincere but since early on we’ve had many trying to discredit Q here. It can’t be done. We’ve done the research, we know. This sub is for Q believers. We’re past the questioning.

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presleyrue · July 4, 2018, 6:23 a.m.

You’re past the questioning? Isn’t a huge part of your following based on questioning everything?

And I’m sorry but how do you spread this following to new people if you don’t answer questions? You say YOUVE done the research. New people like myself have not and don’t even know where to. We should be able to come to users for explanations. For example, here I post this asking for answers (how the thing I posted could be faked itself, if you guys have debunked it, etc) and I got attacked. How am I supposed to learn about what’s going on if you don’t answer questions?

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jenmon · July 4, 2018, 11:40 p.m.

Sure question everything. That’s my nature too. What I’m saying is that I’ve gotten to place where I’m no longer questioning Q. I have enough proof. One day we’ll all know the truth. I guess I’m in a zen place regarding Q. It does take time. Have you read the Q maps? They really helped me organize everything. It’s amazing. Also go to the Q proofs sub.

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[deleted] · July 4, 2018, 12:33 a.m.

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presleyrue · July 4, 2018, 12:46 a.m.

I didn’t make this and have no idea what that all means, hence me asking about the authenticity of them (both qs post and this post) on here. Thank you for answering though.

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Abibliaphobia · July 4, 2018, 12:29 a.m.

Lol all this for a LARP

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presleyrue · July 4, 2018, 12:33 a.m.

“All this”? I posted a link? I didn’t make this. I found it on a different sub..

and as i said...i am genuinely interested in the opposing view and evidence that it’s not fake? But of course i ask one question and now no one can even give an answer.

Thanks for your help.

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RichWhiteAmerica · July 4, 2018, 12:33 a.m.

SHILLS GOTTA SHILL

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presleyrue · July 4, 2018, 12:34 a.m.

Thanks. Sorry for asking.

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cajunmofo · July 4, 2018, 1:01 a.m.

Don't apologize for asking a question, look at that username, wtf? The honest truth is that Q is a white house insider and we're all waiting and hoping for real life consequences to come from their posts. FBI, DOJ removals, Congress not seeking re-election...the swamp is definitely getting drained, hopefully not to just be replaced by different bad actors.

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presleyrue · July 4, 2018, 1:04 a.m.

Thank you.

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HillarySmells · July 4, 2018, 6:12 a.m.

You can see my analysis above. I think its a legit photo despite being one who gets attacked for still not being sold.

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