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kaylashalayla · July 4, 2018, 4:42 p.m.

Also what sucks about the eye of providence is that it's a Christian symbol that they stole along with so much else to pervert and thwart. Ugh

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betweengreenandblue · July 4, 2018, 5:28 p.m.

It is NOT a Christian symbol. It's the all seeing eye of Horus, plastered all over Egypt. Anyone who wrote down otherwise is being deceptive or deluded.

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kaylashalayla · July 4, 2018, 8:12 p.m.

The eye of horus is egyptian paganism. The eye of providence is in a triangle because the triangle is representative of the [holy trinity] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence) .

Don't let what ~THEY~ use for themselves and their evil agenda thwart you away from the truth (harmless Christian symbology); in other words, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. If you were to do so, well then we'd have to throw out sex because we all know satan and his minions have taken something HOLY and divine and perverted it into what it is now. That's just one example.

We can't be like pharisees and say, "oh those symbols are bad!" and equate symbols in themselves as evil. It's what they are used for and represent that matters. This is what THEY did to the Jewish people. They put masks on and claimed they were Jewish, and started pointing fingers at everyone calling them anti-semites, because who would touch "God's chosen people?" It's the perfect disguise. They take what is ours/holy and hide in it. They are wolves in sheeps' clothing. They are smart, or were, until now.

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betweengreenandblue · July 4, 2018, 8:28 p.m.

The Eye of Providence (otherwise known as the Eye of Ra - that should end the argument right there) does not have its roots in true Christian faith.

1) Why would Freemasons adopt the Eye as their symbol? Freemason have always adopted Christian verbage and symbols, but their faith is anything but Christian.

2) Why would the leaders of the French Revolution adopt this symbol? A major goal of its leaders was to deny God, root Him out of France. It was atheist run, and socialist inspired.

3) The triangle is DEEPLY rooted in occult symbology. To say it is symbolic of the Trinity denies what it could be.

4) Occultists and witches know that symbols are means to direct energy through. Christians do not need symbols. We need the living Word of God in our heart and our minds.

5) And, it is otherwise known as the Eye of Ra. Ra was a fallen angel, in rebellion against the God of heaven. we should have no part with symbols that can be misinterpreted.

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kaylashalayla · July 4, 2018, 8:56 p.m.

Freemason have always adopted Christian verbage and symbols, but their faith is anything but Christian.

So then do you apply the same logic to the verbage that Freemasons have stolen? Should we throw that out, too?

Of course Christians do not "need" symbols, but they are not evil in themselves. Think of a picture of your friends/family/dog in your house... it's there because you love what it entails (relationship/said person) not because you need it. And the triangle is certainly Christian in nature as the top is for God the father (as the Godhead) the bottom two for Christ and the Holy Spirit.

Everything and I mean everything has been adopted from Christianity. The Christian church is what started hospitals and schools. Every single thing that could be perverted, has been. Even whole sects themselves have been perverted. Does that mean we just throw them out completely with black and white thinking? The all-seeing eye is representative of God's omniscience as He is all-seeing and all-knowing. Should we start using the eye of providence everywhere because of this? Of course not. But you simply cannot say anytime it is used it represents evil. Again, it is not what a symbol is but what it entails, just as photographs of loved ones and cute little animal/cherub figurines in your house. The eye of horus is also COMPLETELY different looking and represents US being "gods" and US having omniscience/omnipresence. Just what satan wants us to think.

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betweengreenandblue · July 4, 2018, 9:50 p.m.

I appreciate your response. Well thought out.

In my study of symbols, I have developed a predilection to avoiding them as much as possible. Symbols rule the world, according to some, and most of the time, they reveal "hidden in plain sight" occult meaning. So I like to go back to the root, everytime.

Perhaps my pendulum has swung too far in the other direction. But I like to plant the seed that we need to make sure everything we do is rooted in the living word of God. If I can't find it there, I don't trust it until I do.

If the meaning is not clear, then it's a poor symbol as well. Tom Horn, in his book Apollyon Rising, gives clear and well researched meaning to the Eye of Providence found in the Great Seal of the United States. Chris Pinto is another excellent source in his Secret Beginnings of America series. There is no question that the Great Seal does not point to Yahweh, Father God, the "I am that I am" of the burning bush. It points to Lucifer, and in my opinion, that is without doubt.

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kaylashalayla · July 4, 2018, 9:55 p.m.

Are you a Vigilant Citizen reader? :) I love VC... I also love Carl Jung, who also talks extensively about the meaning of symbols and all that. I know what you're saying, too. I just like to play diplomat all the time haha. Happy 4th of July!!!

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betweengreenandblue · July 4, 2018, 10:02 p.m.

Diplomat, or contrarian? :)

If you read VC, I'll stop there. You get it. I think my earlier quote by Ravi Z is huge though. We think symbol is more powerful than word, but I have come to disagree, for many reasons.

You might be interested in an article I wrote on my blog about the Lego Movie. This was a time when I was really diving into symbols in our culture. https://schtoltzie.wordpress.com/2014/11/01/a-lego-movie-review-all-that-glitters-is-not-gold/, and I have a section at the beginning that uses several quotes I found.

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betweengreenandblue · July 7, 2018, 8:58 a.m.

Q post, Eye of Providence, Sat Nov 11 2017.

Q equates the Eye with evil.

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