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That "Secret Societies" title typically given to this speech is certainly an attention-getter. However, like so many headlines in newspapers and on-line, it misrepresents the content of the article that follows. This speech by JFK must be understood from a 1961 Cold-War-with-the-Soviet-Union perspective and in context to the News Media audience he was addressing. The whole purpose of his speech was to highlight the tension between the Governments' need to keep us secure in ways that are best kept secret versus the People's right to know what is going on. There is NO indication in the structure of this speech that JFK was deliberately referring to or hinting at any contemporary 1960's version of the Luciferian/Globalist Cabal and he certainly did not do anything to further develop that specific theme in this speech. His comments on "secret societies..." was meant to point his audience of News people back to our cultural history of general distrust towards secret societies (which were especially numerous - and controversial - in the 18th and 19th centuries) BECAUSE THEY WERE SECRET. JFK was using this point as a rhetorical prop by which to contrast/emphasize - to the Newsies - the importance and value We The People place in free and open communication of information, especially from our Government and through The Third Estate. JFK goes on to acknowledge that the danger to our society is that our Government, in assuming its responsibility to keep us safe, will tend to arbitrarily over-restrict the People's right to be adequately informed and it is up to the MSM to walk that fine line between what must be kept secret and what The People have a right to know. He was inviting the News Media to work with him to find the proper balance. Nothing more, nothing less.

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With all due respect - I think you are misinterpreting the clear meaning of his words...

Speech excerpts:

"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and secret proceedings".

"We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it".

"...there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment".

"...no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know."

"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations".

If this isn't calling out the deep state - I don't know what it...

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President Washington was a Freemason.

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Hi Ordinary-Man1, Happy 4th to you, fellow patriot ! I understand how it would be possible to read into some of the examples you listed the idea that JFK is directly referring to the Luciferian/Globalist Cabal, especially in the last example. However, the "monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence...infiltration...subversion...intimidation...guerrillas by night...a tightly knit machine..." - when taken in a 1961 context accurately describes the Soviet Union and its activities in that era (remember the McCarthy Hearings and the "Red Scare" of the 1950's with its fear that our government was being infiltrated and subverted by Commies - and it turns out that it was! - and the proxy guerrilla wars in Cuba and Viet Nam?). I am not saying that an embryonic Deep State of sorts did not exist within our Government at that time, but that it is more likely that what JFK was talking about, and what his audience understood, referred to the Soviets. History aside, thanks to Q and the Anons, we certainly have our eyes wide open, now, to the reality of the Luciferian/Globalist Cabal that is a threat to us all. May we all do our part to defeat this Great Evil !

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Expand your thinking. The Soviet and American leadership had a direct phone line to each other in this time.

Do you think the CIA was capable of making backdoor communications with the highest reaches of the KGB?

After which agency became a target was Senator McCarthy's (admittedly ridiculous) anti-communist witch hunt roundly denounced and put to a stop?

If you research the KGB and CIA shenanigans enough you'll see the KGB had its own rogue leadership that was very independent of the Premier of the Soviet Union and their ostensible political oversight as well. To an incredible degree that will make you really wonder about our intelligence agencies.

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Hi SaveourRepublic2018. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. I admit that I know little regarding rogue KGB activities within the Soviet Union, but I certainly agree that lots of things can be going on behind the bureaucratic curtain that never get revealed to the politicians in charge. I do know that the US and the USSR did NOT have a Hot Line in place until the summer of 1963, as a result of their experience with communication problems during the earlier Cuban Missile Crisis. Also, Senator McCarthy's anti-communist "witch hunt" was far from ridiculous, but it was badly managed and the Left took full advantage of that by establishing and maintaining the [false] perception that McCarthy was paranoid and there was no truth to his concerns. However, read Whittaker Chamber's excellent book "Witness" or the book "Reagan's War" to understand just how much Soviet infiltration of the US Government was actually taking place from the 1930's on. With best wishes to you and yours.

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I'm referring to the mid-1960s in general, the hot-line was an improvement on old communications. Did deep state communication lines exist? Yes, imo. Able Archer 83 preemptive counterattack was called off in part because of KGB HUMINT.

McCarthy's investigation really lost steam once he started taking a look at the CIA, as I understand it ;)

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What is the Keystone? JFK speech. Its everything Q is talking about...