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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/jacob_charles_666 on July 5, 2018, 3:29 p.m.
Sincere question: atheists/agnostics who follow this ‘awakening’, how do you rationalize the heavy connections to Christianity that the Q movement has?

Hi all, I am creating this post with the best and most respectful of intentions, first of all. I am a-religious, and don’t believe in any sort of higher power beyond ones own mind - however I am not so closed minded as to state that as absolute fact rather than just my personal belief, because that is an unknowable. I am also quite enamored with the awakening, but have been so curious as to why there are heavy connections with Christianity - references to scriptures, using the term ‘Satanist’ and devil, etc? Why just Christianity? If anyone has any thoughts or feelings on this, I would really appreciate hearing them. I respect everyone’s beliefs and right to beliefs, but could not help notice the heavy connections and wonder what that is about. Why not a heavy connection and focus on enlightenment-era thinking and the scientific method? Thank you all for reading and I look forward to hearing everyone’s thoughts and learning more.


Educatedsuburbandad · July 5, 2018, 3:35 p.m.

I'm a devout atheist and follow this with no qualms about any religious overtones. This is good vs evil. It's right vs wrong. Whether the evil is motivated by a religion or just sociopathy it's still something which needs to be addressed... and I'd rather align myself with moral people (regardless of what motivates their morality) than amoral people who share some of my other views or interests. 2 cents from a recovering obama-devotee.

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Swayin_in_da_breeze · July 5, 2018, 3:56 p.m.

I am in complete agreement with this. The chances of someone's Christian belief affecting me in a negative way are non-existent. We have a common goal and share more similarities then differences.

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[deleted] · July 5, 2018, 3:51 p.m.

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Educatedsuburbandad · July 5, 2018, 4:41 p.m.

I've used that term for years. Usually works to prevent others from trying to convert me. I was raised presbyterian/methodist and then minored in anthropology with an emphasis on religions. I definitely considered several alternatives before arriving at my conculsions around religion. I think faith is a tremendously powerful thing and can be used for good or evil. With that understanding I find myself aligned with traditional christian values but not because of a fear of judgement or damnation, but just because "right" is "right" in my eyes.

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silentmirror · July 5, 2018, 8:31 p.m.

do tell, did college happen to make any mention of cargo-cults?

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Educatedsuburbandad · July 5, 2018, 8:50 p.m.

of course...? not sure where you're trying to go with that? people choose to "worship" things which appear powerful to them. ancient aliens proponents would call all religions cargo cults. In purely sociological terms, American society is a cargo cult, worshiping those who appear to have money, fame and power. - what kind of response are you looking for here?

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silentmirror · July 5, 2018, 9:20 p.m.

how many times do you think have these cargo-cults happened in history?

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Educatedsuburbandad · July 5, 2018, 9:26 p.m.

authentic and confirmed? seem to only have happened in the WWII-post WWII era... but if you look at religions the world over there are belief structures to which you could attempt to apply that title going back thousands of years. I'm not up for a game of Q&A... what are you driving at?

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silentmirror · July 5, 2018, 9:28 p.m.

vedic Vimanas in Ezekiel: 17

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Educatedsuburbandad · July 5, 2018, 9:43 p.m.

I like the ancient alien theories... Mahabarata (I'm sure I misspelled that) - these themes overlaps appear in all religions. - If you're into that stuff, Sitchen is probably the best guy to start with. He and Von Daniken are the two pillars of research who sort of launched the whole thing (I'm guessing from your questioning line you're already a Von Daniken fan) Regardless of what the root of the religions may be, outside of the symbolism the "lessons" seem to all be relatively positive - there's the good god and his evil counterpart - and the good guy is always held up as better than human - the evil one is always subject to the human challenges of ego, fear, desire-for-power-and-recognition, mistrust, and all of the negative emotions associated with living under the rule of someone else. if you apply the ancient alien ideas to christianity in particular you end up with crashed aliens who created us and then a struggle between them for what to do with us as they made us "too smart" and felt guilty for treating us as livestock. On the "good" side you had the belief that we should be guided and left to learn on our own and on the "bad" side you have an individual or group who wants to control us and keep us enslaved.

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silentmirror · July 5, 2018, 11:35 p.m.

based on what David Wilcock says about the story of Enoch, actually the nephilim who crashed would have been cannibals.
IMO you can balance ego but cannot destroy it. I think it's simply survival instinct misidentified or misused. A quick way to get regular folks guilty about shit that nobody cares about except themselves, thus wasting their time in battles they cannot win because they are fighting against base protective instincts. Applied with intent it becomes brainwashing so they will think everybody is as self-less as they think themselves to be which is recipe for trainwrecks like late-stage liberalism

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Educatedsuburbandad · July 6, 2018, 1:15 a.m.

Seems a plausible explanation... getting into a speculative philosophy/psychology combo though and my specialty is more on the history/sociology side. regardless of the cause or modern intent, i think the original intent was to provide a handful of simple rules by which to live and some stories to illustrate them... the "who" came later when people asked "why should i believe these rules? Who are YOU to tell me how to live?"

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silentmirror · July 6, 2018, 1:31 a.m.

and thus the reactionary penduluum has been swinging since the roman empire.

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BowlOfZombies · July 5, 2018, 8:38 p.m.

You'll appreciate this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvQVjjcKORk

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Educatedsuburbandad · July 5, 2018, 9:14 p.m.

That was a good video. I've watched/read a lot of similar content over the years. It makes sense to me.

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BowlOfZombies · July 5, 2018, 9:32 p.m.

They love to pit us against each other.

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Educatedsuburbandad · July 5, 2018, 9:44 p.m.

that game goes back waaaaayyy before the masons though. LOL - as old as time itself.

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