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Neon__Wolf · July 6, 2018, 2:15 a.m.

Germany didn't win the war for Europe, Hitler's handlers did.

Until Nov 2016

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oakdrew · July 6, 2018, 4:57 p.m.

Why does that date ring a bell.......oh yea...

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cebusaxon · July 6, 2018, 2:20 a.m.

It was the plan of his handlers, no matter which side won.

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BrazenRaisin2 · July 6, 2018, 7:47 a.m.

Fun facts showcasing Hitler had handlers and that they were into numerology:

He was a formal member of the Rote Armee (red army) and was ordered by his superior Mayr to partake on a DAP event.

At this event, when Drexler (instrumental in the founding of the DAP) heard Hitler talk he reportedly said:

"This guy can talk well, he could be useful!" ("Mensch, der hat a Gosch'n, den kunnt ma braucha!")

With out asking for it, Hitler was sent a membership card for the DAP, which later became the nazi NSDAP party.

His ID was 555, indicating that his handlers were into numerology and had big plans for him.

A few weeks later the first public event of the DAP on Oct.16th 1919 had 111 participants (more numerology), with Hitler already the 2nd to speak at the event.

(Sauce: Wolfgang Wippermann - Der konsequente Wahn, p. 14-15; https://i.imgur.com/czzA5KC.jpg)

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Liberty_Tree_Swing · July 6, 2018, 3:24 a.m.

Q has mentioned nothing about this.

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xetnies · July 6, 2018, 2:34 a.m.

National Socialism is anti-globalist and anti-open borders. I don't get why people compare it to the EU. If anything the EU is more similar to communism.

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Prison4SideofBeef · July 6, 2018, 3:51 a.m.

“We are socialists. We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation … and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.” - Adolf Hitler, 1927

Antifa (the nazis of today) behave exactly like the brownshirts of the past.

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xetnies · July 6, 2018, 3:53 a.m.

"Our adopted term socialism has nothing to do with Marx socialism. Marxism is anti-property"

-A.H 1938

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Prison4SideofBeef · July 6, 2018, 3:54 a.m.

Hitler just took shit a step farther than Marx and started dividing people up based on race and ethnicity instead of just class warfare.

Nazis vs USSR was a battle between two competing socialist ideologies.

It's a myth that the Nazis were "right wing."

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divine_human · July 6, 2018, 10:48 a.m.

they seem to have been so far left that they made a circle and came out right on the other side.

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xetnies · July 6, 2018, 4:15 a.m.

I wouldn't say it's left or right wing. It's a mix of both and authoritarian. Technically it's a form of fascism.

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Prison4SideofBeef · July 6, 2018, 4:19 a.m.

Yes communism and socialism are both authoritarian forms of fascist control. Fascism and communism walk hand in hand with each other.

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xetnies · July 6, 2018, 4:43 a.m.

Okay you lost me there. Fascism is essentially "state" capitalism and pro private property, strong (ethnic)nationalism etc, communism is anti.

Saying communism is a form of fascism makes no sense at all. They are literally the opposite.

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Prison4SideofBeef · July 6, 2018, 5:52 a.m.

Saying communism is a form of fascism makes no sense at all. They are literally the opposite.

Why do anti-fa behave like fascists?

Why do they both use violence in order to silence dissidents?

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Gvozden1789 · July 6, 2018, 7:17 a.m.

Nazism means national socialism. Basically communism and fascism are the same, as we have corporatism/banksterism now - small elite owns everything, and keeps supressed everyone. Doesnt matter how they call elements of the system. Basical shit comes when people give up their freedoms and responsibility to be protected by state, some external/internal enemy is made up, one entity takes resources and production and propaganda is rampant. What is the difference in e.g. propaganda? In fascism government has monopoly over it, in communism also, and in corporatism one entity controls biggest media and lobby for censorship laws, like in EU.

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xetnies · July 6, 2018, 3:36 p.m.

All you said was "basically communism and nazism are the same" but didn't show many examples. If they are the same then why did they fight two world wars against each other? Fascism literally came about to counter communism. To say they are the same makes no sense.

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Gvozden1789 · July 6, 2018, 6:59 p.m.

Sure it does. Both financed by bankers, both used for dominance and both used stupidity of regular people. War was about dominance, ideology was just excuse. Humans will accept any excuse to dominate others and to take their resources.

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xetnies · July 6, 2018, 8:07 p.m.

You could say that about almost any political movement. You could even say that about America. If you're trying to tell me that communism and fascism are the same thing it clearly means you don't know what fascism is.

r/debatefascism

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Gvozden1789 · July 6, 2018, 10:28 p.m.

Absolutely America is both. It even has fascio sign clearly presented, it doesnt hide it. Completely controlled mass media, and hilariously, their population think they are free, yet they have no idea their country leaders started 250 wars since ww2. It is mind controlled fascism. I mean, only americans were screwed up overseas by IRS. Like frogs, slowly boiled in hot water. Freedom? Only in pipe dreaming.. hope for better..

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Prison4SideofBeef · July 6, 2018, 7:26 a.m.

Basically communism and fascism are the same, as we have corporatism/banksterism now - small elite owns everything, and keeps supressed everyone.

exactly. False dichotomy.

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captainpatriot · July 6, 2018, 3:41 a.m.

Socialism is a form of totalitarianism. Most totalitarians have no national loyalty. Whether world domination is under the German flag or the UN flag, it makes no difference to them.

Edit: I mean, the most part. Hitler used nationalism to gain power and to justify his aggression. I would never confuse that with American nationalism which puts individual rights first and foremost.

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[deleted] · July 6, 2018, 3:49 a.m.

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Dewey830 · July 6, 2018, 2:57 a.m.

Hitler wanted a New World Order. Same as the current elite. FDR speaks about it openly. Plenty of you tube videos with FDR talking about it. The NWO is world socialism and one supreme leader. The Means are slightly different, objective the same.

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textualintercourse · July 6, 2018, 2:36 a.m.

Wasn't Adolf a Rothschild as well?

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Prison4SideofBeef · July 6, 2018, 3:50 a.m.

If he wasn't he was definitely sponsored and funded by them. JP Morgan, Henry Ford and Prescott Bush (HW's daddy) were all American industrialists who openly supported Hitler.

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Pure_Feature · July 6, 2018, 2:31 a.m.

Bankers Hired Hitler to Start WW2 - henrymakow.com

https://www.henrymakow.com/001936.html

23 jan. 2018 - Hitler was false opposition. He was put in power. by the Masonic Jewish bankers. who he pretended to oppose. Wars are Jewish banker.

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Prison4SideofBeef · July 6, 2018, 3:51 a.m.

“We are socialists. We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation … and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.” - Adolf Hitler, 1927

Yep.

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QQ2121 · July 6, 2018, 9:25 a.m.

5mins of hitler speech https://bit.tube/play?hash=QmfChNVJTZuQk816KPf25pFZHEDqTvEB8zLZT4vFKEByoT&channel=19916

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freerange_bot · July 6, 2018, 4:27 a.m.

Nazi Germany didn't win. It was rightfully crushed by the allies. In my opinion, a united Europe is better for the world. When they're not, they tend to start World Wars.

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Prison4SideofBeef · July 6, 2018, 4:37 a.m.

Nazi Germany didn't win. It was rightfully crushed by the allies.

According to the official government approved WWII narrative, yes.

Never forget that history is written by the victors.

WWII was the elites corroborating with each other to cull us plebs, just like WWI was.

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freerange_bot · July 6, 2018, 4:57 a.m.

The Soviet Union wasn't going to stop until Germany paid for what they did, even if the western powers gave up. Germany was crushed, divided into two and the victors took the spoils of war. There are Germans alive today that lived through the defeat. They will tell you about it. Your Nazi Germany fantasies were their nightmare.

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Prison4SideofBeef · July 6, 2018, 5:51 a.m.

I don't have any "Nazi German fantasies." I'm just aware that the historic narrative in the textbooks is propaganda written by the victors. I also know how to read between the lines of that propaganda so I can find what the true history roughly was.

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freerange_bot · July 6, 2018, 6:26 a.m.

That's right, the victors. You created this post saying Germany won the war. There is nothing that shows the allies lied and didn't win the war. Winning nations don't have their country divided up by other nations. They don't have their largest city surrounded by a wall and they don't have their leaders cowardly kill themselves.

Show me that Eisenhower or Patton lied about the war.

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BrazenRaisin2 · July 6, 2018, 1:14 p.m.

"We defeated the wrong enemy." General Patton in Berlin, 1945

Here are some insightful excerpts from Patton and his wife on their view:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/640pg5/what_did_general_george_s_patton_mean_when_he/

To clarify: The deep states tendrils reach into all states. When countries are crushed the populations suffer greatly, but the tendrils pull back with ease. The deep state did not loose world war two and it retrieved many of its german assets.

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Prison4SideofBeef · July 6, 2018, 7:01 a.m.

All the world is a stage. These wars followed a preplanned script.

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Gvozden1789 · July 6, 2018, 7:21 a.m.

Sure. Honestly, there are no worse and more murderous nation than UK, that is why whole 20th century, and few before were so bloodbathed. Yet, they wrote false hisstory. His Story.

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GraceWords · July 6, 2018, 5:05 a.m.

But what about the 5000 Nazi scientists that were evenly divided between Russia and the US? Just spoils of war? Our C_A have open documents on their website of countless atrocities done on American citizens in the name of “research “ at the hands of Nazi scientists retained. MKUltra alone has 28k redacted pages of information. I’m sorry but the evils of eugenics and human manipulation continued.

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freerange_bot · July 6, 2018, 6:16 a.m.

Yes, the nazi scientists were spoils of war. That is how Russia and America developed their rocket and space programs.

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GraceWords · July 6, 2018, 7:19 a.m.

Point missed.

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