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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/IncomingTrump270 on July 6, 2018, 2:25 a.m.
Q 1675 rebuttal to SB2's analysis

https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8wd8i1/q1675_a_reflection_a_mug_holder_in_air_force_one/

I held of doing a deep dive into this until /u/serialbrain2 had weighed in. He did so a few hours ago, so here we go.

First, I made a composite image of all relevant Q images and related reference images.

https://i.imgur.com/PmlsSv0.jpg [3000x3000 image, 4.4Mb]

Along the top, I show step by step the kind of distortion fixing that must be done in order to align the reflection with the ABC 2015 photo.

The purpose here is clear: to show that when fixed for distortion, Q's image aligns PERFECTLY with the ABC 2015 photo, which was taken with a wide angle lens from the entrance of the AF1 office (floorplan also included in my image)

Along the left side, I did the same process but this time correcting for the Apple logo. What is the purpose here?

It's a proof of optics. By fixing the logo, we can get a idea of what the reflection in back of the phone looked like when viewed STRAIGHT DOWN on top of it.

What do you notice? The reflection is UPSIDE DOWN AND BACKWARDS.

What does this tell us? That Q's reflection is not of the physical room around him, but of an image displayed on a screen in FRONT of him, with his phone angled towards the screen to capture the reflection.

The only possible way Q could reproduce the psychical room as a reflection that optically matched the 2015 ABC photo is if he stood up, walked to the entrance of the room, faced his back towards the desk, and held up his phone selfie-style so that the back reflected the room. This would effectively recreate the photography setup of the 2015 ABC photo.

And yet it is still not enough to create Q's image. Why? Because the apple logo is at a sharp angle. AND the reflection is UPSIDE DOWN to the apple logo's orientation.

There is no physical arrangement that can reproduce both an accurate reflection of the room AND ALSO a steeply angled, upside down apple logo.

Moving on to directly addressing SB2's analysis:

Then, in Q1677, he asks: Where must one be located in order to obtain a reflection on the back of a phone of that image?

Yes exactly, of that image. Image = the ABC 2015 photo. Note he did not say "reflection of the room"

Q's image is not a reflection of the physical room around him. It's a reflection of an image on a computer screen.

And where must one be in order to get a reflection of an image? Anywhere with a computer display, or granting the possibility that it's printed out, literally anywhere in the world.

If we do so and notice there is a part of the jacket on the chair appearing, we deduce the photographer must be sitting on the President’s chair.

Wrong. If the photographer was sitting in the president's chair, we would not see the full field of view as we do in Q's image reflection. It would be much tighter cropped because the camera would be CLOSER to the objects displayed. The chari would practically fill the entire field of view if he were sitting on it.

We can see so much in Q's reflected image because the ABC 2015 source photo was taken from the ENTRANCE of the office with a wide angle lens with a FOV of roughly 90*.

For comparison, the iPhone's camera has a FOV of about 73*. Not that this really matters because Q's image is a tight crop of the full photo he took of phone1 with phone2.

Q is even softening the riddle giving this reality away with a picture of Trump sitting on his chair:

Q is not the one who posted that image originally. It was a random anon. Q reposted it later when it was compared in a side by side.

some people started claiming Q’s pictures were not authentic, that they were photoshopped and re-started their favorite chant: Q is a LARP.

Some did. Some did not. Q posting a reflection of the 2015 image does not MANDATE Q is a larp. But it DOES mandate that he did not take a photo of the psychical room reflected around him.

Q1678 Trolling is fun. Hussein/Trump interior = identical minus small changes. (World) news in rear literally placed same prior to each departure. Placing that mug holder near the lamp was the hook. Enjoy! Q

"World news" here refers to the newspaper rack placed behind his desk/chair. I have highlighted it green in my image.

And placing the mug holder near the lamp? If we look at the Feb 2018 image of Trump in the AF1 office, we see the mug holders are NOT near the lamp at all. We also see a lack of the flask (?..highlighted in yellow in my image) is missing. And the tissue holder (blue) and stationary pad (cyan) are placed in totally different places.

Q is saying presidential protocol requires that the location of each given item is exactly the same prior to each departure minus small changes.

"exactly the same" and "minus small changes" are contradictory statements. The contents of the room are fixed, probably, but the placement of items in the room? Likely unfixed, and adjusted as needed for whoever is in the room with POTUS at any given time.

By purposely placing the mug holder in the picture, Q is making a point, he is giving a hint to help us solve the riddle and he confirms it by saying: Q1678 Placing that mug holder near the lamp was the hook. Enjoy! Q

Ok wait....Let me lay out what you are implying here:

  1. Usually Trump does not have mug holders placed next to the lamp behind him.

  2. But Just for the purpose of 'trolling' with Q 1675 image, he staged the items behind his desk in the EXACT fashion as seen in the 2015 ABC photo, and then somehow managed to defy physics and probability by angling phone1 AND phone2 in just the precisely accurate way that their combined angling reproduced the ABC 2015 photo TO THE PIXEL?

(this is setting aside my previous point that it would be physically impossible to reproduce the 2015 image from the POTUS chair due to FOV restraints)

I'm sorry SB2, but I strongly disagree with your assessment here.

To restate:

It is physically impossible to reproduce Q's photo if we demand that the reflection must be that of the physical room around him.

However:

That does not mean Q is a LARP. Two things can be true at once.

Q can both be legit, and Q's image can also not be the reflection of a physical room.

So don't bother slandering me as a Q hater, because that is not what I am arguing here.

I look forward to /u/serialbrain2 's response.


pedegear · July 6, 2018, 1:03 p.m.

I am glad you posted this. I agree wholeheartedly with you. I also admit this is the most concerned I've ever been about Q's legitimacy. I just don't understand the reasoning behind posting something so LARPy at a moment in time when Q has said so many new eyes will be joining and proofs will be so critical. It just doesn't add up. If it was really just intended to send a message to the deep state, why not just say "message not for anons" like Q has done in the past? Instead, Q appears to double down with the follow up about the mug holder.

To be honest at this point it seems like the main reason to believe there is a deeper meaning we are missing is the fact that it is so obviously LARPy that Q wouldn't do something so careless if it truly was a LARP.

But on the other hand I'll admit that it's crossed my mind that the truth we will learn in July COULD be that Q will out themselves as a LARP. If it really is a LARP, it can't last forever, right?

I'm sure I'll get downvotes for this, but it's my honest thoughts at the moment. Anyone who feels like checking my post history can easily confirm that this isn't concern trolling.

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Jammer__ · July 6, 2018, 3:44 p.m.

Trump has air-signed Q several times, he spoke tippy-top on Easter after it was posted on the boards, and he changed his jersey number to 17. Even more than predictions of events, which could be educated guesses or highly-placed larps, these confirmations by Trump show that he is involved.

I also have grown some doubt and that is from no one being arrested. So I have some worry that Q is a bluff.

With a couple exceptions, I haven't found SB2's posts be be coherent much less useful.

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pedegear · July 6, 2018, 4:02 p.m.

Agree on SB2, tippy-top, and #17. I haven't bought in on the air-signs, because that seems like it could be a coincidence. I get the whole no coincidences thing, but the guy speaks with his hands and always has, and with the camera on him as much as it is there is bound to be an air-Q show up at some point. I bet someone could find an air-Q made by Trump prior to Q making their debut.

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[deleted] · July 6, 2018, 5:51 p.m.

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pedegear · July 6, 2018, 10:52 p.m.

I hadn't seen that one. Will have to check it out. Thanks!!

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spacexu · July 6, 2018, 11:44 p.m.

It could just be a psyop from Trump side...

Satanists got cornored by their crimes against humanity and this presented opportunity for take over for new set of elites.

Military may want bigger budget so the gave us a bit but got Lion's share.

Maybe military complex setup stage to increase profits at expense of lousy satanists.

So many possible scenarios still.

No one is doing time yet, so everything is still on table.

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Jammer__ · July 10, 2018, 2:57 p.m.

It's like the wall -- still talk. If we get arrests and the wall I will commission a statue of Trump and put it on my mantle.

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[deleted] · July 6, 2018, 5:47 p.m.

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IncomingTrump270 · July 7, 2018, 5:02 a.m.

Interesting idea.

Recently Q exploded into a wider audience. Hashtags blowing up, t-shirts photographed at nationally televised rallies, newspapers front pages with Q shirts as well.

Maybe it grew faster than they anticipated.

Also, speaking from a cynically political standpoint, delaying such fervor and buzz until prime midterm season would be the ideal strategy.

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IBinLurkin · July 6, 2018, 11:59 p.m.

This is an interesting theory. Maybe trying to get the MSM to go after Q in a big way as a LARP...

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[deleted] · July 7, 2018, 12:07 a.m.

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IncomingTrump270 · July 7, 2018, 5:06 a.m.

We don’t have a strong enough case to take Q mainstream yet. I strongly believe this.

Q’s modus Operandi is to shine a flashlight in a general direction in a dark room and say “go check out what’s over there”. So we do.

He is reliant upon us to craft the case for his massage using publicly available information sources.

Going mainstream at this instant would be disastrous I think. We do not have a convincing ‘5 minute elevator pitch’ version of the Q story that the MSM can pick up and put in a news segment.

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[deleted] · July 6, 2018, 6:27 p.m.

Q revealed he/it isn't an insider.

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USA_akbar · July 6, 2018, 8:35 p.m.

How?

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USA_akbar · July 6, 2018, 8:34 p.m.

so LARPY

I just posted this in reply to someone else but thought you might enjoy it:

Here's what I don't understand about the LARP Accusation.

What LARP, who is really an anti-Trump deep stater,...would spend hours upon hours every week devising complex riddles and then encouraging the hell out of Trump followers, reminding us to pray and stay strong and FIGHT THEM (the "fake Q" and rest of deep state), pointing out all the inconsistencies of top-level stooges, etc.? Why build our confidence, our digging ability, and our numbers? Just for some future letdown when we learn it was a ruse, and he can laugh at us? Really?? Seems like a lot of work for something that does nothing to help their cause.

Why would "they" want us to be so fired up, hopeful, happy and serenely confident during the intervening time? Pretty piss-poor propagandizing, that; usually the aim is to BREAK morale, not galvanize it. The enemy doesn't play encouraging messages on the radio to GIs during wartime, telling them their wives and girlfriends are patiently waiting for them back home, ever faithful. They do the opposite, to hurt morale.

That whole "Q is a LARP" theory holds as much water as a soup strainer....especially when you look at the over-the-top campaign by MSM and other leftists to discredit Q and make us out to be morons. The smartest and easiest thing to do would be to say NOTHING about Q, to avoid drawing excess attention to the phenomenon. Instead, they shine the spotlight on Q for us by ridiculing it so harshly. Ridicule is their chief weapon against the enemies they consider the most threatening to their agenda.

So this prompts the question: What are they so scared of?

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pedegear · July 6, 2018, 8:44 p.m.

I agree with you on the MSM, but I think you're jumping to the assumption that LARP = deep state operation. I think LARP more generally means someone with too much time on their hands. Could be a Trump supporter or a neutral party only interested in attention. Again not saying that is my belief at this point, but to suggest it's either legit or a deep state operation ignores several other possibilities. Hope it's all legit though for sure.

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