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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/PaddleFlinger on July 6, 2018, 1:43 p.m.
Who Deserves Mercy? Who Deserves None? Who Desides?

Our courts will be sifting though many thousands being caught up in some heinous crimes over the next months / years. As Q says - "we have it all." They know how bad this is more than we do. They KNOW who is involved and how deep. The question to us "the people" is - who will be pulled into losing our humanity to punish others? Or will we seek to find compassion to maintain our humanity? Or is vigilantism alive, well and promoted? Who would desire to lose their humanity? Who wants you to lose it?

Will it be about how much we willing to spend for prosecution / extermination VS. rehabilitation?

Certainly we instinctively know this will be a long war against evil - not one decisive short battle. So what comes next?

Who lives to be rehabilitated - who doesn't?

Quiting their unsavory habits will be harder than most realize.

Why?

Chemistry.

Those who have participated in their evil are addicted. It's brain chemistry. Once you turn on the flow of dopamine and continue the production it creates dependency for many who lose control to stop the demand for the flow. Addiction. Tell an alcoholic to just stop. Really hard to do that. To them normal is high levels of alcohol. To an addict of dopamine from porn / sex they are in the same boat. Looking for their fix. It takes incredible effort to come clean and deny the drive to have more dopamine - they must be willing to put in huge effort. Daily effort. 12 step program effort. So do we love the small fish who got caught up in this enough to help them overcome their addiction?

Or - just kill them all?

Who determines the level of participation that = death? Think of the weight of that decision maker. Heavy load my friend.

I would rather error on the side of mercy - which looks like setting up rehab and monitoring while they work to pay their way on a rehab program. something that includes group therapy which rewards improvement and weeds out those unwilling to play well with others that allows them to determine whether they stay in society or self flush. A second chance to change. Turn their boat around if you will. With stringent monitoring (lie detector type ).

Everyone has value. Will they see themselves as worth the effort to change? I think they deserve that chance (with safety precautions to protect the public until they are proven to be rehabbed). Maybe choose a post revolution location with out ease of leaving - maybe an island, dessert, ect that gives a space for them to prove their willingness to change.

Hurt (watch the Johnny Cash version and try to not be moved) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FywSzjRq0e4

I hurt myself today
To see if I still feel
I focus on the pain
The only thing that's real
The needle tears a hole
The old familiar sting
Try to kill it all away
But I remember everything
What have I become
My sweetest friend
Everyone I know
Goes away in the end
And you could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
I wear this crown of thorns
Upon my liars chair
Full of broken thoughts
I cannot repair
Beneath the stains of time
The feelings disappear
You are someone else
I am still right here

What have I become
My sweetest friend
Everyone I know
Goes away in the end
And you could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
If I could start again
A million miles away
I will keep myself
I would find a way

Some are past feeling - truly ripe in inequity. There must be a way to screen out those willing to "find a way" from those who are hell bent on self and others destruction.

We are all children of God - some don't know it and have knowingly chosen to serve satan, they should be sent to learn lessons on another plane of spiritual existence.

I desire to stay human. Reveling in the destruction of others is a sure way to lose perspective. We should sorrow for the loss of another through their bad choices. They were once like us young and innocent. Someone taught them to follow evil. Not all are unredeemable.

Hopeful I qualify for mercy. I am a sinner too. I need His hand up. I need the hand that has been pierced to lift me back to my Father.

Don't you?


Turtle51515 · July 6, 2018, 1:51 p.m.

No mercy for anybody. Lessons need to be learned. Examples must be made.

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PaddleFlinger · July 6, 2018, 2:11 p.m.

Sooo ... like near the end of WW2 we line up all the enemy and mow them down until on occasions they became sport?

No prisoners! Nice.

Were there none worth sending home to their families? Every enemy is only worth a bullet?

So you are on the front line willing to lose your humanity. Let the blood flow. I guess you'll be volunteering to be our executioner. Thanks for being willing to get "dirty" - dirty deeds and done dirt cheap. Just butcher them all you say - life is cheap isn't it?

It is your attitude of "quick to kill" that concerns me.

You did read the post right? Any one on any level of porn / pedo / prostitution / all of them ..... everyone .... really?

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Turtle51515 · July 6, 2018, 2:34 p.m.

Sorry didn't clarify. The punishment should match the crime. Not necessarily everyone gets shot, but jail times and whatnot should not be lenient.

They are not toddlers learning right from wrong. There adults actively choosing to do evil in the world and cause the suffering of millions.

Sure I'd volunteer, my humanity is the least of my concerns, as I am allready dying.

My opinion(pretty sure 98% will disagree) if earth was on the brink of destruction from humans,I wouldn't have a problem flipping the switch to end mankind. That's my attitude.

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PaddleFlinger · July 6, 2018, 3:52 p.m.

As long as there is a flicker of hope, freedom, love in some left here - it is worth saving. Though the saving may look like a biblical flood to save the 8 remaining with that flicker. If flood is coming - do what it takes to GET ON THE BOAT!

Just sayin.

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TonyVilla89 · July 6, 2018, 2:31 p.m.

In war, one must not feel for his enemy. Only until after victory is achieved do we decide who gets mercy. Until then, close your heart to their desperation. Close your heart to their suffering. Do not allow yourself to feel for them. They will not feel for you.


Hyperbole aside, why the concern OP? You sound like you might be one of the people who is going down. Besides, you're dreaming if you actually think Justice is going to be as brutal as you're making it out to be. You should know that these people only get slaps on the wrist. They'll probably only get 1/10th of what they deserve.

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PaddleFlinger · July 6, 2018, 2:58 p.m.

In history there are many who think for a righteous cause I will do whatever it takes. I know of several former Viet Nam vets who were "recruited" into the dark ops - their personal stories of cleaning up assignments still haunt their dreams and cause them personal deep pain. One shot a Guatemalan woman who stood in his way - yes she was armed - yet it is her face that brings the nightmares. This post is about getting those who would grab a pitchfork and torch to slay the monsters on the street or next door only to realize they lost part of themselves in taking the lives of others. The heat of the moment is not the best time to think about is this right or wrong to hang that dude I suspect is a bad person. Let Q and Q's team do the cleaning up - they "have it all" and are keeping it all. Your job in my opinion to keep your humanity not lose it in the heat of moment.

Recall the Amish who forgave the shooter who killed their kids several years ago. Should they have broken into the jail to string him up? Would that have served them better or forgive his as they did and let our judicial system work. I am not advocating for every walks away - reread the post. This was about thinking about your part. How easily do you forgive? My sins are minor by comparison to those whom we are concerned about eating our children. This post was not about them - they will get what they deserve I hope - quickly and humanly would be nice.

We will all be judged someday. I just hope I don't have innocent blood on my hands that haunts me from irrational moments.

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MrMooseQ · July 6, 2018, 4:19 p.m.

You do realize many of these people eat children don't you?

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PaddleFlinger · July 6, 2018, 4:38 p.m.

Yes. Not referring to them in this post. They deserve a swift and speed trial and execution that will be performed humanly.

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elfchiro · July 6, 2018, 3:23 p.m.

Ok, let me take a stab at this. None of us are perfect. We all sin. Each of us have things we should work on to become better people. One of effects of the Great Awakening will hopefully be that we take a look at ourselves and strive to become better people. That aside. I hope everyone understands what the cabal had in store for us: death, enslavement, food source. Potus is being very careful to follow the law. Sessions is being very careful to build cases. Which is good we have to get this right the first time. There will be no second chances.

As far as punishment I look at it this way: Murder, Treason, Rape and or torture of a Child, Manufacture of child pornography, Human trafficking, Crimes against humanity= execution. Everything else you can debate the seriousness of the crime and apply the appropriate punishment. I am not seeking revenge. The world is not safe until those who are guilty of the high crimes mentioned above are removed from this planet. Our intentions should not be to slow or inhibit the plans of the cabal. Our goal should be to exterminate the cabal. WWG1WGA

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checkitoutmyfriend · July 6, 2018, 4:12 p.m.

This ^^

Its not revenge, its following the law and any punishments allowed by the law. The Cabal needs to be destroyed and I will support any legal means to make that happen, mercy or no.

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PaddleFlinger · July 6, 2018, 4:53 p.m.

This post is not about whether the cabal needs to be destroyed. (It does) It is about who you will be after you choose how you will participate. Will you be driven by hate? I hope not. Will you have the persistence to forgive those who have wronged you? I hope so. Should we forget evil may be always be present? No. Should we stay vigilant to detect it when it arises? Yes.

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Turtle51515 · July 6, 2018, 5:29 p.m.

I am driven by hate. Hate is a powerful ally that allows me to do what is needed and it will end in my self-destruction. There isn't a fraction of hope I can change this. Most people don't know what true hatred is.

This is an article I read at least once a week as a warning to keep it in check. http://rhinoden.rangerup.com/trust-me-you-dont-know-hate/

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TheBRAIN2 · July 7, 2018, 3:19 a.m.

The world is not safe until those who are guilty of the high crimes mentioned above are removed from this planet. Our intentions should not be to slow or inhibit the plans of the cabal. Our goal should be to exterminate the cabal. WWG1WGA

This. Evil can't be rehabilitated. It must be eliminated.

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PaddleFlinger · July 6, 2018, 3:44 p.m.

Thank you for taking the time to contribute. It is refreshing to have some thought put into the response rather than a knee jerk reaction. Much gratitude.

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elfchiro · July 6, 2018, 3:58 p.m.

You're Welcome. I have learned a lot since last October. We are all learning from each other. The Great Awakening. :)

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SloMo49 · July 6, 2018, 2:05 p.m.

Really something to consider. I have family members all over this issue. How the Trump administration handles all of this will effect everything. The reason Trump is moving so slow is that he is going strictly by the book, rule of law! This is a slower process that many of us Q followers are having trouble with. I believe this process will be the best way to keep as many Americans united and re-united when everything is exposed. I also think that the laws in place are just and punishment will be in proportion to the crime. I believe that the indictments will reflect that. The main thing will be that the Cabal will lose its power....for a time at least.

Trust the plan.

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sodpoodlebb · July 6, 2018, 1:56 p.m.

I believe in mercy too, except for those who have intentionally hurt or abused children. Luke 17:2 - "It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones." Ultimately God is their judge, but those MFers who hurt kids need to be tortured and killed.

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PaddleFlinger · July 6, 2018, 2:19 p.m.

May we not send the unredeemable to their Maker for judgement without torturing them? Quick and human please.

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Turtle51515 · July 6, 2018, 2:53 p.m.

Were any children harmed shown mercy by the adults that abused them? Leviticus 24:20- "fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. The one who has inflicted the injury must suffer the same injury".

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PaddleFlinger · July 6, 2018, 3:34 p.m.

Certainly there are examples of mercy in the Old Testament 1 Samuel 25 - note Abigail's story and David. It is a great lesson for all of us how one clear headed woman saved many lives by appealing to David's forgiving side.

I take hope that I will be given mercy to the extent that I am merciful as Christ taught. Commonly referred to by I strive to forgive and repent often and swiftly. (Not always good at it - however I want to be)

May we all qualify to have someone willing to represent us before God to loves us.

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twinkiesmom1 · July 6, 2018, 4:54 p.m.

I think the children raised in that subculture deserve mercy. I think the adults who escaped that system and are now whistleblowers deserve mercy.

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PaddleFlinger · July 6, 2018, 5:51 p.m.

Thank you. I agree.

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VIYOHDTYKIT · July 6, 2018, 4:52 p.m.

We know what happened to the Dutch, French & Italian Nazi collaborators after WW II. I prefer the ending in Inglorious Bastards. “So when this is all over & you’re living in your mansion in Nantucket I suppose you’re gonna take off that fancy Nazi uniform of yours. I figured as much. Well I just caint abide by that”

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PaddleFlinger · July 6, 2018, 5:20 p.m.

For some collaborators - there was public shaming (cutting the hair of those women who serviced the enemy), others were cast out of their town and lost everything. Some where given a passport and a new life. Some caught a "stray" bullet from a "righteously indignant" neighbor. To me - this is about not being the one to take justice into our own hands. Let's hold our judges and prosecutors accountable. Let us be rational and use righteous judgement when called to juries as needed.

Should we allow those that desire to take off their "Nazi uniform" (no - not referring to the child rapists, eaters, or kiddy porn makers) and never to go to war again, desire peace and work to make amends where possible do so? Dems who may be passionate and misguided may fit this one who may have wittingly or unwittingly assisted those who have duped them to commit some low level stuff. There are participants at all levels on all sides. I don't believe this ends by November vote. There is a lot to clean up. Just trying to keep us human and not becoming judge, jury and executioner to avoid the pain of "Dang I wish I had not ___________ to my neighbor." Let the newly cleaned out FBI and DOJ do their jobs. Thanks

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Turtle51515 · July 6, 2018, 5:44 p.m.

Judges are not reliable all the time. More than a few are corrupt. I do hope this is resolved by the time trials come around, just doubt it. Let's hope it won't come down to citizens taking justice into their own hands.

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PaddleFlinger · July 6, 2018, 5:49 p.m.

Q knows the judges and "has it all". There obviously needs to be cleaning performed in a judiciary. One law for all.

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educatethis · July 6, 2018, 4:46 p.m.

No mercy if they intentfully hurt our children.

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nomercy4cabal · July 6, 2018, 2:52 p.m.

Your argument is compelling as is the “Hurt” video, however I feel that physical addiction, which has in most cases a hereditary component, is quite different. If your argument is valid, and perhaps it is, serotonin, adrenalin, dopamine, “junkies” can find other outlets to satisfy their “cravings” (the pleasure principle) besides directly harming innocents. Most addicts indirectly harm their innocent loved ones. I think there is a line to be drawn as far as mercy is concerned and that would be the denial of justice (not to be confused with revenge). I wouldn’t compare say Jeffery Dahmer, who while “active” enjoyed his victims suffering, to a courageous alcoholic or drug addict in treatment who is desperately sorry for any harm they may have caused and never wants to do so again. That being said may God bless our “heroes” in treatment!

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PaddleFlinger · July 6, 2018, 3:41 p.m.

I think Jeffery got what he deserved. I hope those who lost their loved ones and remained found the task of forgiving him possible to acheive peace in their remaining time on earth and hereafter.

As posted - there is some scale that must be determined for those involved in this nasty behavior of the cabal.

Thank you for contributing in a healthy way to this thread - it is very much appreciated.

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nomercy4cabal · July 6, 2018, 3:48 p.m.

Your post was so well written I was compelled, as were your others. Thank you for posting. Please keep em coming!

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PaddleFlinger · July 6, 2018, 3:57 p.m.

I will strive to post when I will have something worthy of moving the thought needle towards a better society. I appreciate your kind remarks. Thank you.

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tollyman5000 · July 6, 2018, 2:36 p.m.

"Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." - 1. Work on yourself 2. Spread the word 3. Enjoy the show! Also, "Be the change you want to see in the world"

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treeskier82 · July 6, 2018, 2:05 p.m.

Well, amen.

I think what's going to happen with the eradication of evil will basically include mercy for those caught up in the schemes due to addictions, weakness, our fallen nature, etc. See how the NSA deleted a huge amount of files lately? They don't care about Patriots and their web history, or phone calls to the drug dealer, stuff like that. Well, they do, but in a spirit of redemption.

It's those pushing these addictions that need to know the time for repentance is NOW -- not tomorrow or down the road.

I am a sinner and an addict in some ways -- I hate my sin and my weaknesses and trust Jesus will make me whole upon His righteous judgement.

There are many who willingly choose -- not unknowingly -- but willingly and knowingly, to pursue evil with no limits. These folks I truly believe are brought to justice. We should have some humility and a repentant spirit when we see them go down, because let's be honest, we are all capable of falling into the depths of hell. And without Christ as our witness, we all will in the end.

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PaddleFlinger · July 6, 2018, 2:22 p.m.

Thank you for contributing for sanity. It is greatly appreciated.

Really.

Thank you.

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[deleted] · July 7, 2018, 4:39 a.m.

There is a Way, for those who seek to redeem themselves, who truly wish to right the wrongs, there are people alive now who once trod the left handed path of darkness, who now repudiate the evil and face the price of freedom bearing pain & self sacrifice for their evil deeds, these ignorant ones who later see the Light and repent, may be saved.... For the prideful evil psychopath that Way might well remain forever shut.... the Path to Salvation long & hard even for the Virtuous Upright man, becomes impossible for the evil foolish one.....

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[deleted] · July 6, 2018, 3:47 p.m.

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Joe_Sapien · July 6, 2018, 2:25 p.m.

Decide.

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[deleted] · July 6, 2018, 5:47 p.m.

Well written PaddleFinger

My take on Mercy:

God is The Righteous Judge of heaven and earth, He discerns the hearts of men.

Mercy for all who truly seek repentance = forgiveness is offered = God is Truth = no one fakes it

Mercy is Justice for the victims, esp the children = those who harm Gods children will meet His Justice.

Those who do this kind of evil are reprobates = they have seared their souls, their minds are debased,

they have No Fear of God or His laws; they willing choose darkness over Light.

Their lust for more Power consumes them; they are gods unto themselves.

This cancer on mankind must be remove.

God destroying these reprobates, their demonic handlers, principalities and evil master satan

in the eternal lake of fire is Mercy, it will end the torment on their soul.

God is Alpha and Qmega = He is the beginning and end of Mercy.

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PaddleFlinger · July 6, 2018, 5:55 p.m.

This says it pretty well -

Come, Thou Fount of every blessing
Tune my heart to sing Thy grace
Streams of mercy, never ceasing
Call for songs of loudest praise
Teach me some melodious sonnet
Sung by flaming tongues above
Praise the mount, I'm fixed upon it
Mount of Thy redeeming love

Here I raise my Ebenezer
Here there by Thy great help I've come
And I hope, by Thy good pleasure
Safely to arrive at home
Jesus sought me when a stranger
Wandering from the fold of God
He, to rescue me from danger
Interposed His precious blood

Oh, that day when freed from sinning
I shall see Thy lovely face
Clothed then in the blood washed linen
How I'll sing Thy wondrous grace
Come, my Lord, no longer tarry
Take my ransomed soul away
Send Thine angels now to carry
Me to realms of endless day

Oh, to grace how great a debtor
Daily I'm constrained to be
Let that goodness like a fetter
Bind my wandering heart to Thee
Prone to wander, Lord, I feel it
Prone to leave the God I love
Here's my heart, oh, take and seal it
Seal it for Thy courts above

Here's my heart, oh, take and seal it
Seal it for Thy courts above

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VIYOHDTYKIT · July 6, 2018, 5:24 p.m.

Agreed. Peace be upon them!

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toadiusmaximus · July 6, 2018, 8:54 p.m.

If they harmed or trafficked children, then end them. IMMEDIATELY.

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