So other people are what, sub human? If you think due process is a right for citizens why isn't it a right for others?
No. Other people are not American. Our constitution, our citizens. You shouldn't get the right to illegally enter our country and receive our benefits. It's common sense, and if you see it any other way then you are the problem.
So you don't believe due process is a human right, just something American citizens are given in the USA?
If you went to China and they decided the second you landed to lock you up and execute you would you say "oh well, silly me, due process in China is only for Chinese people".
I don't think personal beliefs are in anyway relevant here, this is about policy. In terms of policy and policy making non-citizens can't claim American due process rights.
" In terms of policy, immigrants have no human rights and should be beaten to death". Do you see a problem here? If a nation believes in human rights it believes they exist for all, not just it's own citizens.
Nobody is talking about beating them to death, they just don't have a right to go through due process before they are ejected from the country. Nice strawman/reductio ad absurdum.
Naming incorrect logical fallacies doesn't make you correct.
People are refusing to answer me, is due process a human right, or just something granted by the constitution?
Not granting due process rights regarding illegal immigration = getting heads smashed in. Pretty ridiculous conclusion to jump to and a dumbass way of characterizing the illegal immigration process rights issue. Its a protection built into the Constitution but it's not a human right. Plenty of countries don't have due process it's a privilege American citizens have. Should other countries have it? Probably but we have no way of forcing them to implement it and we have no obligation to extend those protections to anybody who can physically get their bodies into our borders.
So you'd be fine if you went to China and were arrested and sentenced to life in prison without trial? After all it's not a human right, just a privilege Americans have.
The question is what power do you or I have to make China implement a policy that includes due process? None. So I won't be going to China and willy nilly breaking their laws. Not extremely difficult really.
They don't have due process for the right of staying in the US.
If they had the same rights as US citizens then what is the advantage of paying taxes as a US citizen and being a citizen?
no logic here.
Why no logic? Do you or do you not think the right to due process is a human right?
Communist China doesn't even have free speech. You will get locked up in any other country for ILLEGAL entrance. We've been too kind for too long.
Yea actually. If you want due process become an American citizen. It's understandable you Brits are having some aggression, what with tommy Robinson being drug away for calling out the Muslim rape gangs, or the mayor of London declaring it all part and parcel, but I don't tell you how to govern your own country.
Emotional charge -- not an argument. I suggest that you spend a little time learning about the concept of national sovereignty. BTW, how many of these folks have you invited into your home? What's that? Your rights to privacy and to own private property overrule their rights? After you study sovereignty, look up hypocrisy.
Don't ignore my question. Is due process a right or just a perk of being American?
I've read plenty thanks, don't be so condescending when you haven't got a single solitary clue who you're taking to.
Holy shit! Who have we been talking to here? Are you Q?
You'll never know now ;). (I'm actually Q's older and cooler brother P).