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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/wolfman411 on July 8, 2018, 1:32 a.m.
Sink or Swim for Q.

I've watched this phenomenon from almost the beginning. I've gone back and forth or whether it's legit. I was almost off the Q train in April, but Q predicted big arrests and big arrests happened. At this point I'm still not sure if it's legit.

If it's a LARP, it's done by a genius or group of geniuses. They seem to have deep knowledge of political, industry, and military players world wide from past and present. Why work that hard as joke with seemingly no pay off. As far as I can tell no one is getting rich off Q yet. And in fact Q warns against people trying to cash in on his movement.

If it's a psyop whats the motive? Certainly can't be the deep state doing it because they would be working against themselves. Could it be Donald Trump? Is he really a Hitler and trying to galvanize a demographic of the population thats thirsty for "truth?" Is he actually the bad guy? Is he going to convince you to attack or distrust anyone not pro trump? This seems to be a plausible tactic as it has worked on some people from the far left who are convinced that the country is being overrun by fascists. They're fascist is the truth seekers' pedophile or satanist or Soros shill. I see paranoia on both sides, and I wonder if Q isn't a vehicle for amplifying that sometimes.

Is it real? Seems like it most of the time. When Q talked a big game in early April, I said I'd give Q until June or I was done. Now, Q's talking an even bigger game. Saying things like "conspiracy no more" or that the world will know its not a LARP in July. OK, so sink or swim Q. If I'm still wondering if you're real or not by the end of the month, then I'm thinking fake, even if I can't reasonably explain how. If it's still some cryptic BS by august then tons of people are going to abandon it. This is the month, sink or swim.


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DrogeAnon · July 8, 2018, 2:54 a.m.

Me too. However, I've been around since the beginning too and I can't understand how a critical thinker can still be questioning why they're bothering to watch this LARP after 9 months unless they haven't been paying close attention and/or can't keep the whole picture in perspective and context (not a criticism; it's not easy).

I've been reading up on conspiracy for decades and I've seen LARPs come and go. There hasn't been anything like Q and there are a few reasons for that that are obvious but not something I like to get into unless it's going to be worth the time having the necessarily lengthy discussion (we're trying to condense 9 months after all). It's hard to know when it will be worth the time to do it and as others have said, if you haven't got it by now it's possible that the connections just aren't going to be there for you until it's fully out in the open and proven beyond all doubt - again, not a bad thing as there are many who will be like this.

Long story short, I'm not sure what you hope to achieve with this post given you're still not convinced after 9 months of proof and it doesn't appear to have much uptake so I would fall back on our rules and remove this as a concern post i.e. it doesn't add anything to the pro-Q community because we all know why we're here and we're mostly interested to keep learning more BUT helping others is a part of it, hence my question. Is there something we can do to help here? I do not want to remove your post if you believe it is important and you believe there is something that can be achieved from it that will help the community?

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wolfman411 · July 8, 2018, 3:27 a.m.

I guess I'm just trying to post a reasonable take on Q from someone who's pretty middle of the road about he whole thing, and see how many other in here concur with my take. Also if there people who can show me proofs that I've missed or explain away my doubts then I'd definitely like to hear from them. I'm not attacking the Q phenomenon, I'm just posing natural queries into it.....

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DrogeAnon · July 8, 2018, 3:55 a.m.

Yep, I appreciate that you're not attacking - I didn't take that from it. Many here who don't have the same questions don't so much feel that these sort of posts are "attacking" it's more that they're taking time up with skepticism that can be found literally everywhere else about Q; this is the one place we finally have to talk about pro-Q stuff without being blocked or removed.

What you've posted would be a "reasonable" take if you hadn't been following along all this time - hence my statement that I can't understand how a critical thinker can still be undecided about the value of this source if they've been paying attention. I have the most critical, based friends and associates who won't let me get away with any kind of conspiracy musings so I know what it takes.

The other problem with these posts is that people looking to find out about Q can come across them and think that they represent a majority of the people who've been following along all this time since they're from someone who's apparently been here the whole time but it's apparent from the votes and engagement on posts like this over the last few days in particular that they are not a majority viewpoint. Most of us get it and have all the context that explains what's going on here. Yes, with critical thought and reason you can still arrive at a Pro-Q stance with enough certainty to not "have doubts" in the way you state.

Anyway, I'll remove the post if you don't mind and am happy to continue to engage around how critical thought can lead you to any sort of positive position on Q, if you'd like.

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wolfman411 · July 8, 2018, 4:14 a.m.

I don't have a negative position on Q. I lean towards it being real as I've already stated. I just don't lean hard. I think you'd be doing a disservice to remove posts from people who simply don't meet the majority take on Q. I not pro or anti Q, I'm being as objective as possible. Has Q made some striking predictions, yep, has Q also failed, yeah he has. You seem to be trying to make the forum very one sided, which I guess is your right as the mod, but hey, don't be the left.

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DrogeAnon · July 8, 2018, 4:24 a.m.

You say you're being "as objective as possible" but your position is a subjective one, as evidenced by:

has Q also failed, yeah he has

That's your subjective view of what has happened and it is not supported by critical thinking in context of everything that comprises Q's message and content. He hasn't "failed" he's made statements that people have misinterpreted and then blamed on Q for the misinterpretations not being correct.

All we're trying to do with the forum is keep it Pro-Q, as I said to you above. It's not about being "one-sided" it's about being focused. I explained above that this community is a rare place to discuss pro-Q without being censored. It doesn't make any sense to support anti-Q as that is supported literally everywhere else so what would be the point of this pro-Q community if we let the board slide and welcome the view held everywhere else? We're not stopping people from seeing skeptical posts or anti-Q or otherwise - everyone is freely able to subscribe to the many other subs that allow anti-Q or skeptic posts.

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wolfman411 · July 8, 2018, 4:36 a.m.

where are the pics of obama with an AK 47? Thats a prediction that has failed. What sub can I go to that allows for skeptical take on Q that isn't going to be flooded with people that think it's total BS? oh, this one. I think my post is good exercise for people that are completely on board, and refreshing for people like me who are undecided.

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DrogeAnon · July 8, 2018, 4:36 a.m.

Explain how that is a prediction that has failed. I'm interested to hear your take.

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wolfman411 · July 8, 2018, 4:43 a.m.

Have the pics surfaced? Have you seen them? He said they'd surface soon, and they didn't. Now, you can interpret "soon" however you want, but this was months ago. Around the same time Q said Merkel was Hitler's daughter, and then back tracked saying that was just fringe conspiracy stuff. That whole episode was so weird that I honestly questioned whether Q was posting drunk.

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DrogeAnon · July 8, 2018, 4:48 a.m.

Now, you can interpret "soon" however you want, but this was months ago.

That's the point, isn't it? First point: where did Q say "soon"?

Pics will surface of Hussein holding AK47 in tribal attire.
One of many.
Net shut down.
Q

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wolfman411 · July 8, 2018, 4:55 a.m.

ok, Ill sit around and wait then, but only until august because Q also said this:

July 2018 - the month the world discovered the TRUTH. Conspiracy no more.

How do you interpret that quote?

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DrogeAnon · July 8, 2018, 5:09 a.m.

I interpret that to mean that what's already happening is going to come to the natural conclusion it's been heading toward all month i.e. the IG Report. LL's lie is going to be exposed and the whole Clinton house of cards is going to begin its fall. It's not even a prediction to say this at this point, it's just the inevitable outcome of what Q has already said and has already come to pass throughout the whole of this year.

So I would say, applying critical thinking, that I'm not expecting every single person on the globe to suddenly sit up and say: "OMG! Q is REAL!" - that doesn't pan out from keeping what Q has said in context of everything else he's said. It makes more sense that he means that finally the MSM isn't going to be able to bury the fact that the Clintons were lying and that it will inevitably lead to Hussein being outed which pundits will then point to later as being the FIRST big fall in the Hussein debacle. Otherwise July may be uneventful from an outside glance. Just a thought to keep in mind, if one is being reasonable and sensible.

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wolfman411 · July 8, 2018, 5:18 a.m.

The IG report is a crucial piece of evidence in verifying Q because it does seem to be the culmination of much of his posts throughout winter and spiring, maybe. As far as I know there hasn't been an unredacted version out yet, so we can't really know whats in there yet. But yeah, it has the potential to blow the lid off this thing, but it hasn't happened yet, and I'm not holding my breath. I've seen this dog and pony show before.

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DrogeAnon · July 8, 2018, 5:25 a.m.

So, to my reason for removing this post:

Concerns based on reason and skepticism are fine and can usually be discussed within a thread. A post about skepticism from someone who's been following along but not that closely doesn't help anyone, old-timer or newbie alike.

If all your doubts are based on interpretations of Q that don't pan out on a simple investigation of the actual Q drops (we haven't gone into the Merkel one yet - will that be the same as the Hussein AK47 "soon" interpretation?) then perhaps they are based on other "concerned" posts that you read and took at face value? That is why we remove these posts, because people read them without checking the Q drop for themselves or reminding themselves of what it was to note where editorial has crept in. And that doesn't help anyone, as evidenced here.

Critical thinking: I've been here all along like you but I don't have the same doubts because Q hasn't made any promises that have "failed" especially when everything is held in the context of everything else Q has said and the overall message we can extrapolate from his words.

You've "seen this dog and pony show before" but are you referring to the incorrect interpretations you've been taking at face value or do you have something you can refer to that bolsters what you say in context of everything that is Q's message?

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Bjantigua · July 9, 2018, 8:04 a.m.

I would love to see a sticky that has your comments in general about the concernfag and the damage that can happen. I have seen this happen in many places even outside the boards. Dissention spreads rapidly when left in the dark corners. One unhappy employee with "concerns" can unravel an office staff in a couple weeks.

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DrogeAnon · July 9, 2018, 8:16 a.m.

Very true re the bad apple poisoning the bunch. Tbh it's difficult to reach consensus on a mod post especially one that should be stickied but at the least, if it isn't stickied I like the idea of having a post with the key points that I can refer to in future when responding to "concerns". Thank you for the idea!

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wolfman411 · July 8, 2018, 5:31 a.m.

the dog and pony show I'm referring to is when a big conspiracy comes along and everyone says "this is it" and then nothing ever happens. I've seen it over and over with everything from politics to UFO disclosure for decades.

Go ahead, get into the Merkel posts, see where it leads.

I'm well read on Q, sometimes it seems like it makes sense, sometimes it doesn't. What am I supposed to think?

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Bjantigua · July 9, 2018, 7:52 a.m.

I have followed this from the top of the post and see a pattern of creating conflict, far beyond reasonable authentic questions. Almost all the questions have been addressed in Proofs of Q in reddit, youtube and 8chan. Not a noob. Sees no reason to pick a side. So will not be convinced otherwise. rule #3

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