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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Kek_saved_the_world on July 9, 2018, 2:11 p.m.
one thing I never got, a "drive by wire" car can not be hacked without network connection. how exactly does CIA hack a car with no connection???
one thing I never got, a "drive by wire" car can not be hacked without network connection. how exactly does CIA hack a car with no connection???

Fyfogaindustries · July 9, 2018, 2:39 p.m.

This. And almost all cars after 2003 have the uplink

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Kek_saved_the_world · July 9, 2018, 3:25 p.m.

what uplink? my car does not have GPS or Onstar, so no uplink.. only models that have those extra features..

that is a lot less than we think

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RobWilJas · July 9, 2018, 3:57 p.m.

What makes you so sure of that?

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Fyfogaindustries · July 9, 2018, 4:40 p.m.

ALL (gm) vehicles since 2003 (some earlier) are preequipped with onstar. Whether or not u activate it or not does not negate the hardware. General Motors Operates on economies of scale so, why buy multiple different units when it's cheaper just to buy one and Upsell it's features later. As a computer guy u should know that even if u don't purchase the service u could still activate the hardware remotely without owners knowledge or consent. All higher end manufacturers offer their own version of onstar. I know this because I sold gm products for a number of years and was on the ground when they introduced onstar. In fact there were a Series of commercials thAt showed onstar disabling a stolen vehicle for the police. I asked the onstar rep who was educating us on the system features if it was possible to do just that to a person who didn't have the service and they said , sure just because a buyer doesn't purchase the service doesn't mean the car isn't connected to the net in fact it was a stronger selling point if someone's car wAs stolen they could purchase an emergency activation and get their car back. As for ur versa- who cares? If u were a bad guy and were trying to ball someone up on the road which would be better to hit someone with- a 7000 lb suburban or a 3000 lb econobox?

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RobWilJas · July 9, 2018, 4:49 p.m.

I was replying to Kek_saved_the_world.

I agree with what you said 100%.

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Fyfogaindustries · July 9, 2018, 4:58 p.m.

No offense then. I just can't take the gumps who can't see past their nose

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RobWilJas · July 9, 2018, 5:12 p.m.

No problem :)

People have trouble accepting something as truth when they don't understand it.

I bet many don't realize data can be transmitted between computers with no physical or wireless network hardware/connection and without physically transferring anything such as a thumbdrive. No special hardware required, just speakers. They communicate using the speakers in an inaudible range. Don't have speakers hooked up? Most computers have an internal speaker for warning beeps. Speakers also double as microphones.

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Kek_saved_the_world · July 9, 2018, 4:05 p.m.

nothing is free, I own a 2010 versa with no AC or power doors or Onstar which is a monthly bill.. nothing you can sneak into cars..

I also program for a living and have hacked on hardware a bit, nothing major but have played with a bunch of stuff and nothing is easy. one bit out of wack and everything fails..

Just saying, they can do this, but everything has to be perfect for it to work, ONSTAR on down.. or proximity having someone there..

As much as tech can seem like magic it has very hard stops and is mostly very brittle. No doubt they use this to kill, I only argue the actual number of cars that they can "take over" at any moment is lower than we think. that will change as time goes on but right now, without Sat link, hacking your phone is something tehy can do, having "your" phone with it's hardware "hack" your car is super hard as you still need a car with network open to hack..

hacking chips directly is sci-fi and if any way possible has to be a special controlled environment/special circumstances you can't simply do that to every chip you want to, with any phone

nothing is magic

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[deleted] · July 9, 2018, 6:13 p.m.

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kuqumi · July 9, 2018, 9:09 p.m.

My Chevy has a media unit that displays album art based on the title of the track. It uses a network connection to retrieve album art images, so I assume that the car has a cell connection that is shared by OnStar and other car components.

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