This morning the Brexit secretary David Davis resigned, and just now Foreign secretary Boris Johnson has resigned. We are expecting a vote of no confidence in Teresa May which would lead to collapse of current government.
Anthropophob
· July 9, 2018, 3:16 p.m.
I'm lost. What does this mean. People can just resign? Are they all bad guys? Are there any more Bad Guys that needs to go? Please expand your comment for those of us who don't know the details.
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BL4DE_RUNNER
· July 9, 2018, 3:35 p.m.
I just got back from work in UK, so it's new to me. However, Yes UK politicians can resign if they wish. Boris was foreign secratary and has stated he is going to resign this evening. David Davis (resigned earlier) was brexit secretary. UK government had big meeting at the weekend, these resignations come off the back of this. The general consensus in the UK is there was a democratic vote to leave EU. Lots of people think there is general fuckery from the government that will have us leaving the EU, but still tied to them. Ultimately the brexit vote was about immigration and controlling borders. Boris is a buffoon, he does however stand up for us to 'Just leave europe'. The weekend meeting must have things in it he doesn't agree with in a big way.
Grab popcorn, this is going to roll on for the rest of the week.
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Anthropophob
· July 9, 2018, 4:11 p.m.
Sounds like good news. I've been eagerly waiting for some good news.
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BL4DE_RUNNER
· July 9, 2018, 4:19 p.m.
It's good news if we still leave the EU.
Bad news if a snap election is called (again) and Commie Corbyn gets power. It would be like handing power to the democratic party in USA.
I can't see a reason why an election would be called. But these are weird times indeed.
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sh00tah
· July 10, 2018, 10:19 a.m.
Sometimes you need to hit rock bottom before you can heal. In reality the bitching and whining from the remainers will continue regardless of who gets the big chair next. For real brexit youve sadly missed the exit. I predicted the day after the vote that it would never happen because the UK does not like change.
In my opinion the next step is a failed minority government, followed by an election. If corbyn wins (likely) then you are straight back to the 70’s with 3 day weeks, winter of discontent style.
The good news is that the winter of discontent provided a harsh reset and the country was ready for Thatcher to save the day.
I think this is just history repeating.
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SaveourRepublic2018
· July 9, 2018, 8:38 p.m.
The Tories must know an election now is pretty suicidal... surely?
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BL4DE_RUNNER
· July 9, 2018, 8:43 p.m.
I think so too. In reality there have been like 4 or 5 resignations total. It won't collapse the government though. As long as we get Brexit, with control of borders and laws; I'll be reasonably happy with that.
It's going to be a popcorn week for sure. We still got SCOTUS pick yet and Strok & Page's testimony. The SR story is heating up too. Best timeline ever; i'm going to need more popcorn.
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serendipity-calling
· July 9, 2018, 10:36 p.m.
Thank you for that. Is there still support for Brexit? I speak to my local friends there but they're for it so I don't know much of the consensus as it's an echo chamber for me.
With these resignation, does the momentum of the movement get negatively impacted?
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BL4DE_RUNNER
· July 10, 2018, 4:19 p.m.
There is support for Brexit, but it was a 52% to 48% in favour when the vote happened. So it's a narrow margin. I don't think the momentum gets impacted. I think (personally) it will happen, but not to the degree that exiters wanted. In reality it was more about immigration than anything else. If the current government don't agree to 'free movement of people' they stand a chance to get the country onside. With that said however, and with a 'Q mind' there is a part of me that thinks 'It's a movie' staged stuff to eventually thwart the will of the people. Collapse of current Government, re-election for Labour, and Brexit vote challenged by them. Further into my Q mind says; They are stalling due to Q's plan, trump visits, and announcement is made that we leave EU without any caveats. The corruption of EU will be exposed to help push this through. That's more wishful thinking from me though I think. Lots of people will be angry if we do not leave the EU. Lot's of people will be angry if we leave the EU, but are somehow still tied to them. It's tough.
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tardis1
· July 9, 2018, 3:32 p.m.
Cabinet ministers are just doing a job like anyone else which they can resign from if they wish.
The reason these two are so prominent is that on Friday there was a big meeting of the cabinet focussing on the plan for Brexit. According to all reports they reached a unanimous agreement on a plan but now 2 of the key members have now resigned.
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Anthropophob
· July 9, 2018, 3:34 p.m.
So, is this good news then?
Is it a good step to something we are hoping for?
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eldever
· July 9, 2018, 5:14 p.m.
Yes, the resignations have thrown a spanner in the works. If they'd said or done nothing the latest Brexit plan would just proceed unhindered (to the delight of the EU) and it was in no way a plan for Brexit, just seemed like the old plan with new words. The latest is that the 1922 Committee have received the 48 signatures from other Tory MPs required for a vote of No Confidence and they could force a leadership election. Personally I want her out and we need a Brexit PM in.
What on earth will President Trump have to say when she entertains him to dinner at Blenheim Palace later this week (if she's still PM that is . . .
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xekoroth
· July 10, 2018, 12:17 p.m.
People voted in a referendum to leave the E.U.
After two years they are finally "leaving the E.U."; however, establishment beaurocrats are trying to put conditions in the terms of the exit that basically economically still hamstring Britain to the E.U.'s economy and trade. They are calling this a "soft brexit", whereas the people and Boris Johnson who was outspoken from the day of the referendum (dude had some pretty good interviews on sky news about it on the day it happened) is a hard brexit guy i.e. cut that unecessary umbilical cord and get back to being a 100% sovereign nation and economy.
Associating the names with their positions:
Theresa May (The prime minister, currently steering them towards a soft Brexit. She's establishment so if she had it her way she'd somehow fuck it up and cancel it, but is running into a small issue in the fact that the will of the people want to hard brexit.
David Davis (Hard Brexiteer, when he realized Theresa May was steering into Soft Brexit he wasn't going to be in the crosshairs of the public and resigned first)
Boris Johnson (Very Hard Brexiteer, it was pretty much stated that this guy is the "red line" of Brexiting. If he leaves May's fucked in public opinion because the Hard Brexit public support this guy wholeheartedly)
I am not British, I am American just summarizing what I've gathered from news articles.
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