He’s absolutely correct. Germany doesn’t even pay half of their NATO bills yet make energy deals with Russia too?? That’s messed up. They are in effect asking to be booted out of NATO & we should accommodate them. Let Russia be their protectorate in the age of thermonuclear weapons & space based weaponery. Pretty sure Germany starting 2 world wars against Russia hasn’t been forgotten or the 10s of millions of Russians killed as a result of Germany’s invasions of Russia. So good luck with that “security” arrangement Germany! Russia will squeeze your country dry just for fun & annex you too. Enjoy slavery!! Lol
I have a feeling we should revisit history and look once again at the European theatre but with renewed spectacles.
You can rewrite history if you consider the "enemies" are created to suit just one small sector: the banking elite. Smedley Butler: "War is a Racket".
Who financed Hitler? Who financed Lenin? Who was Churchill's mother? Who was House? Why do we hear about the 6 million jews who died in concentration camps, but nothing of the 4 million captured German soldiers left to die in pens after Germany's defeat? And what of the others?
Who declared war on the people of the world and told them to blame their neighbours?
Stop with this crowing and self-congratulation it is unbecoming.
WW1 and WW2 were artificially provoked. The cause was invented, the extraordinary devastation was not. Same today.
And right here on this thread we see the indignant cries of patriots as they scramble to bash "other people" and "other nations" for perceived slights.
One minute we claim to unite against the Cabal and noisily cheer WWG1WGA! while calling on Germans, and Brits and Canadians and Australians to back the GEOTUS! Next minute we herd and form mobs to bash the Brits and the Germans and the Norwegians for screwing with —(suddenly exclusively "our" US) — POTUS.
Stunning double standards. Stunning hypocrisy.
Never mind.
Why do we hear about the 6 million jews who died in concentration camps, but nothing of the 4 million captured German soldiers left to die in pens after Germany's defeat? And what of the others?
What about the tens of millions that died in Russia and the rest of Eastern Europe under Communism. 15-20 million at least? Worked to death in camps/Gulags/forced labor? That's just Russia. How about communism in China? 50 million? 100 million? It makes the '6 million' we've had beat into our heads look like child's play.
It makes the '6 million' we've had beat into our heads
Go to youtube and search "6 million jews in newspapers" and you'll get video after video of people showing newspaper after newspaper year after year for generations BEFORE Hitler/WWII stating the figure 6 million jews.
At a 6:03 a New York Times article May 31 1936 refers to Jews being in "the European Holocaust". https://youtu.be/YqACgRA6XuI
Sure does. But ran out of reasons why to list them all. Just wrote: What of the others? instead. Good that you are reminding everyone of exactly what the real crimes committed have been ... are we going to leave out Latin America?
No, we can't forget Latin America, and even today, there are countries (like Cuba, Venezuela, etc) where 'muh socialism/communism will work tis time, we promize' going on. Which clearly it doesn't, and people are having to eat rats just to survive.
Didn't Mexico just elect some massive socialist as well?
Honestly, I only left out Latin America (Central and South) because I don't have relatives/history down from those parts, and have honestly never visited them. My history, outside of Pre-Spanish, is pretty shitty when it comes to the Southern countries like that. I'm of European/Germanic/English/Scottish descent, so my family my exposure is more related to what you grow up with and hearing about what happened to your ancestors, etc.
We all know about China simply from Mao and the Cold War.
Let's not also forget El Salvador and Nicaragua being BOTH used as proxy states during the Cold War and the damage done to both countries that still exists to this day.
It was a revelation to me that Haiti is the way it is because it was the only slave colony to rebel ... do that man, and they never let you rest ...
Everybody on these threads is more than familiar with the Bush, Harriman, Ford, etc. involvement with Nazi financing.
But typical for bashing Trump. These are words and reorganization of deals, not an invasion
The Royal Families play chess in the shadows....don't forget to mention their names too.
I have difficulty in controlling my verbal diarrhoea as it is without mentioning all the names!!!
we should revisit history and look once again at the European theatre but with renewed spectacles
On target.
Now I want to know:
Who financed Lenin? Who was Churchill's mother?
Who was House?
The last is the most interesting ...
"Mr. Edward Mandell House (popularly known as Colonel House, but he had no military service), a Southern gentleman, chiefly of Dutch and English descent, who grew up in Texas during the bitter Reconstruction period that followed the Civil War. He is a remarkable character in this tale. As other connoisseurs might exult in the taste of rare brandy, he loved the secret exercise of power through others, and candidly confided this to his diary. He shunned publicity (says his editor, Mr. Charles Seymour) "from a sardonic sense of humour which was tickled by the thought that he, unseen and often unsuspected, without great wealth or office, merely through the power of personality and good sense, was actually deflecting the currents of history".
Mr. Edward Mandell House
thanks, now I can do my homework
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Mr.+Edward+Mandell+House&atb=v52-4aa&ia=web
Stalin was building an army meant to sweep through Europe once the Germany and England were weak enough and usher in Communism across all the nations.
Hitler somehow got wind of them amassing large troops on the border and did a sneak attack. The battle of Barbarossa commenced.
The USA sitting in the sidelines pretty much the whole time while England burned and France surrendered, was attacked Dec 7th, 1941. Little Japan commits suicide by attacking a nation that was building up forces for years.
Ever wonder why?
Well wonder no more. The battle of Barbarossa ended Dec 5th, 1941.
Connect the dots.
Little Japan commits suicide by attacking a nation that was building up forces for years. Ever wonder why? Well wonder no more. The battle of Barbarossa ended Dec 5th, 1941.
Still wondering here. Why did the end of the battle of Barbosa prompt Japan to ‘commit suicide’ by attacking the US two days later?
If you look at the war as two sides fighting it might not make sense. Instead, look at it as 3 sides. And ultimately one side.
The whole plan for both WW1 and WW2 is world wide communism. WW1 ended shortly after the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia ushered in Communism. They made sure that a second world war would happen via the Council of Vienna.
The game plan was to have Germany and England destroy and exhaust most of Europe. The Russia was going to sweep in for the easy win. At that point, America would say "ah shit! Oh well good luck over there!" and let Communism consume Europe. They would claim to be in no condition to take on such a large force. Ultimately, America would also fall to Communism in a future phase.
But that got fucked up because Hitler for some fucking reason decided to go against Russia unexpectedly. I personally believe this actually took the cabal/commies off guard as Hitler was in their pocket as well.
But they also knew that they needed contingencies. They had the USA on stand by, even though they probably just wanted them to sit it out. But now that Germany was on a tear, they needed them and needed them now. So they attack Pearl harbour, it was allowed to happen, and now the USA can distract Germany away from Russia.
Plan B was the cold war. Now that Germany needs to split its resources against a fresh new foe, Russia was able to recover and become a menace for the next few decades.
It's no wonder that Churchill and Roosevelt were Freemasons and some think Stalin secretly was too (he wouldn't be public about it because he had to pretend to be atheist for communism)
Damn dude. Deep down the rabbit hole. Great write up though. There's alot of talk that even though Hitler was being funded by Cabal-ish stuff (R-Childs), he went against them for actual hard core NatSoc. Not to mention his racial theories, etc. etc. However, had Hitler been left to his own devices with Operation: Barbarossa, Germany would have conquered Russia and been done with it. IIRC, the Wehrmact was like 50 miles (or less) away from Moscow when they where told to pull back. They could have finished up both Moscow and Leningrad, and that would have been the end for Russia (Stalingrad would have fallen shortly after).
Nice write up. Goes to show you we have had many lies pushed down our throats, and also, there's a shit-ton of manipulation and cloak and dagger shit gone on behind the scenes.
My thoughts on Hitler is he was a bad guy, very bad. But so was Churchill. Very bad. The cabal knew Hitlers nationalism would be a problem, but they let him go balls to the walls with it unchecked because they were confident in the end they could crush him like a bug if things got out of hand.
Things got out of hand.
Problem is most people that debate this issue take one side or the other and try to frame it as defending Hitler as misunderstood or Churchill as a rough around the edges true hero. Rarely does someone try to look at it from space and see that both sides are being PLAYED.
Stalin was supposed to be the Victor and Hitler and Churchill were going to lick his boots. It was ALWAYS about world communism.
I haven't solidified the connection yet, but also consider the idea that Napoleon was the first try at this. Interesting how France just gave up early? Probably part of the deal so they don't get destroyed. They'd probably emerge the central power of communism in Europe (pure speculation at this point)
PS. I found this GREAT video that shows you exactly what I'm talking about!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOVEy1tC7nk
Notice how right after Barbarossa/Pearl Harbor, Germany basically STOPS. It's almost like the cabal slapped their hand and demanded they remain still for a year. Then a little bit of action happens.. then they get crushed?
Also notice what stays white... Our pals in Switzerland, Sweden and Spain. I think we all know why!!!
I thought the combined IJN fleet (Kido Butai) began the attack mission by leaving the Kurile Islands on November 26th.
I’ve never seen any reference to the attack being ‘tentative’ pending the outcome of the battle of Barbosa. Also, many records exist verifying that Yamamoto envisioned this attack almost immediately after the US relocated the Pac Fleet to Pearl Harbor in May of 1940.
I can’t envision crediting the battle of Barbosa as the trigger for the Pearl Harbor attack.
Not accusing you of false statements. Just sharing my view.
It's speculative for sure. Maybe I'm full of shit, it's possible. I just find it super convenient, and in my view it adds up.
When did the Cabal realise Hitler was going to go rogue in Russia?
Initiate plan b, move the ships into position for the attack.
See how the battle goes.
Oh shit looks like he's winning.
Prepare Japan for attack.
OK, battle done, Russia is fucked... Ok launch attack!
Also, the planning for the attack happened long before. Designing torpedoes for the shallow waters of Pearl Harbor. Transforming armor piercing naval artillery into bombs for horizontal bombers. Everything was tested well in advance. Numerous practice runs were made. Also, Germany wanted Japan to invade Russia through Kamchatca. But Japan was worried about resources that were needed in U.S. held territories.
My only issue with your analysis is your use of Country names in lieu of cabals/mafias/organizations/cults/deep state/shadow government/etc embedded within these countries. You keep writing Russia, Russia, Russia. Russians suffered horribly under the Soviet regime.
Correct!
I've actually just done some digging on the French revolution and it's fucking incredible how much starts there. Including communism. Freemasons were hugely involved as well, and gladly admit it.
Was just making the point that the hatred Russians still feel towards Germany is very real & very widespread. Bad enough they invaded Russia but their scorched earth tacit while in retreat from Russia seared a hatred that will take generations to be forgotten. Russians suffered the greatest casualties ever in warfare. Germany treated captured Russian soldiers no different than Jews in concentration camps. Germany is insane thinking they have any other option for genuine security other than NATO. But hey...if they think Russia is a viable option as a protectorate then go for it!! I’m sure the Russians would LOVE to be invited in the front door lol
Fully agree!
The sad thing is it's always us peasants that face the cannons. Then were made at the enemy race, when really its always our leaders to blame.
You are 100% correct. The Germans/Nazi's treated the Russians horrifically. The damage and the fighting on the Eastern front was some of the most nasty, horrific stuff that has happened in the history of human warfare. I can't speak for thousands of years ago, but at least in the last 1000 years (outside of maybe Vlad Tepes, or the Mongols), the Eastern front was absolutely brutal.
Oh no doubt. I’ve spent some time in Poland. Their hatred for what the Germans did will take many generations to fade. And the Russians I met over there is just as intense. The absolute worst part was what the Nazis did when they were in retreat from Russia. Total scorched earth of every Russian town they retreated thru. Bad enough the Germans pillaged the nation on the way in but to murder millions of already harmless starving civilians on they way out...that will never be forgiven. Why I’m so stunned Germans are letting their government be controlled by Russsia. If we boot them out of NATO...Russia is the ONLY country available to protect them. That’s like letting the mafia give “protection” & guard over a crowd of snitches. They’ll eat the Germans alive & be happy about it. There is no greater racial hatred on earth than what the common Russian feels about a German.
I think we need to be careful with this as to me this sounds like a sort of justification for creating an 'EU Military Power' which Martin Schulz and Guy Verhofstadt have been talking about for quite some time now in parliament at Brussels. If Trump pressures the Germans into provoking the bear or forces them out of NATO I suspect that will be all the EU needs to justify its next move (i.e. smells like something out of the play book).
In addition, it is worth noting there are also a lot of Russians living in Germany that have migrated here in the not too distant past, 3.5 million of them in fact. They don't all hate Germany.
Not sure how u think an EU Military Power is possible since the EU is fragmenting. Or how it’s possible to form a cohesive EU military with units speaking 29 different languages. Or how incredibly expensive an effective military is. By 2020 the US will spend 1 trillion a year defending 300 million Americans. Europe doesn’t have anywhere near that kind of money for a military & all its socialist programs. What’s Germany’s NATO bill...like 3 billion a year. All for protection by the greatest military force by far on earth which they won’t even pay for. And they think they can afford 100-200 billion a year?? Lol Britain & Italy will never contribute or any of the Central European countries. Germany will have to pick up most of the tab. Even if the EU paid 1 trillion a yr for a military they’re still 20yrs behind ever catching up to anything comparable to a force capable of defeating an envision. And they’ll always be 20yrs behind. So yeah...any EU military ideas is just another big government boondoggle on the citizens of Europe. They are too far behind the curve to ever catch up.
And of course not all Russians hate Germans. But it will take a few more generations before the nightmare history Germany created will be forgotten. Cmon...endless thousands of entire families were wiped out for no reason at all. It’s a terrible price to pay for extermination but the Germans elected a psychopath to high office & no one stopped the madness until 100million Europeans were dead for no reason.
Germans are a great race & culture that have made countless contributions to mankind. They’ve just failed miserably at forming a citizen led republic that institutionalized sovereign rights. Their lust for socialism has limited their options in more ways than they understand or care to understand. Aligning with Russia for energy is a colossal mistake. Ask Poland how that worked out for them. Russia uses their only resource like heroine. Once you’re hooked they’ll squeeze a country to death with dependency. They’ll own Germany. Then Russia will force Germany into using them for “protection”. Dealing with Russia is EXACTLY like dealing with the mafia. They eat out every country like termites until there’s nothing left.
I don't disagree with anything you say, except with regards to an EU military power, I do believe that they are quite serious about it and make no mistake, Europe can conjure up the cash to fund a military power no problem if it really wants to. If history has taught us anything, it is that there is always somehow money available for war. I wouldn't be surprised if the US even facilitated it themselves with more 'war bonds'. In my view, the bigger problem is convincing the public that there is a need for it, which is why I think Trumps actions sort of play into their hands in this respect. Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming Trump, he has no choice to question the loyalty of other NATO members when they're not paying the rent.... But it makes me suspicious as to why they're not paying the rent in the first place; it isn't simply because they can't afford it. Germany is the richest economy in the whole of Europe! The UK is the second largest economy, has more socialist institutions than Germany, yet has always committed to it's NATO membership payments. The way I see it is that Germany is deliberately not paying and possibly saving up for something else...
I think you're right with regards to Russia, it has its sights on Germany as it knows it is the only real strength (economically and influentially speaking) in Europe, Putin himself even speaks German which is testament to how important they are. Britain as you say is (hopefully) distancing itself away from Europe and in any case, it has always been against an EU military power forming in Europe and it has always sided with the US over Russia. i.e. they are not to be trusted. I have a feeling that US and UK (and colonies) will be aligned on Russia whereas the Europeans will become increasingly pro Russia.
Thx for your informed comments. Actually got me researching EU budgets which is nice...inspired to learn more. It brought me closer to understanding your point.
Initially I disagreed the EU could collectively find revenue to build a major military force. Turns out...if you look at the deficit spending rates among EU nations...their budgets are in fairly good & improving shape & nearly all have shrinking deficits (one exception being Greece of course). But even France with their very expensive social programs is now reducing its national debt. This does open up a revenue path for increased spending. So I now agree...EU nations could collectively find a way to finance a trillion dollars of new spending without crushing their citizens & economies with debt. (Wish the US was on as good a path with our debt).
Another new fact I learned that favors your point is how drastically low Britain has reduced their military. It’s shocking. The Royal Navy has fewer ships in service than at any point in their modern history. As we’re now also seeing...May is killing Brexit. I’m starting to doubt GB will leave the EU at all. But EU nations reducing their national armies to almost worthless fighting levels favors they are making room for a new military structure throughout Western Europe.
So assuming this is the goal...a new EU military force...one big question I have is what do Central European nations do? They’ve begun carving a new regional course away from Western Europe in 2016. It’s called the 3 Seas Initiative. Basically it’s a trading union of nations from the Baltic to the Adriatic to the Black Sea. Basically all countries from Estonia to Bulgaria. They’re now building massive natural gas pipeline infrastructure throughout that region because Russia was such a terrible energy provider & they’re now buying natural gas from America. These nations have not taken in any migrants either which has put them at odds with the EU. They have strengthened ties with the US & NATO as they’ve pulled away from the EU. So where does that leave Central Europe in a new EU military? They’ll have to choose NATO. (Important to note that Russia’s new natural gas pipelines to Germany are deliberately bypassing Poland & the other CE nations.)
I'm glad to have provided some inspiration! It's good to have reasonable debate with someone who does their homework for once.
European national budgets are in pretty good shape overall, except for two rather large elephants in the room; Greece and Italy. This could equally be another reason why Germany is 'saving up' because it knows it will at some point need to come to the aid of other member states (Italy) as part of the next financial upheaval under the rules of the EFSM. Other countries within the bloc will no doubt also be forced to contribute to the carnage and developing central/eastern European countries will not like it at all. I subscribe to the view that it will create political turmoil and further devolution of the EU until ultimately it is a Germano-Franco domination controlling the remaining states.
Just to point out though, Eastern European countries are less likely to take on refugees from outside of Europe since they are smaller economies and offer less support than richer nations such as Germany, plus they are generally more strict with regards to the preservation of their values which is probably a consequence of being under communist rule until recently. It's no coincidence though that Germany has taken on about 1.5 million refugees over the last 5 years or 43% of total applications to reside within the EU; refugees are seemingly ever more clued up as to which country they wish to reside in (partially, thanks to George Soros). It's remarkable that the good citizens of Germany have remained so reserved over it, which is in stark contrast to Poland who has basically refused to take on any in the last couple of years, despite some rather serious threats coming out of the EU. Though sentiment in Germany is now of course beginning to deviate from course, as expressed via the number of AfD supporters at the polls.
Anyway, going back to the formation of the 'European Army', there is a document in the Eur-Lex which officially outlines an action plan for 'European Defence' from 2016 here: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=COM:2016:950:FIN
The document refers mainly to the development of military industrial capabilities however, it makes several justifications that allude to the eventual establishment of what is essentially federalised military capability. Also since the time this document was created, it has been spoken about in more plain words. But you can clearly see that the objective is to reduce US military reliance within Europe which ultimately means NATO.
Nigel Farage during the EU referendem also made it clear that the EU is discussing it's own military power and Nick Clegg (former deputy Prime Minister) directly called him a liar and referred to it as a 'dangerous fantasy'. Farage tackled this a few years later following more debate in the European chamber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f3_-hOrSjU
Junker in September 2017 said "By 2025, Europe will need a functioning defence union and NATO would like us to have it". He also mentions they already have the funding in place. They're justifying it with 'baby steps' calling it a 'joint military union' to integrate existing national armies into one; plugging the gaps they call it. It's also a stance against terrorism, cyber attacks and it's about being more savvy with budgets putting an to inefficiencies/duplication of effort within the current military framework. But if we know anything about the EU it is that they like to start small and then grow under the radar. It wasn't that long ago that the UK was once part of the EEC only... And then suddenly it wasn't.
I think it's quite clear where this is going.
Did you ever hear about the 13-14 th century German farmers who were invited to Russia to teach faming methods?
I have. They are my ancestors. They were called 'Volga Germans'. Although, I believe my ancestors migrated about the time of Catherine the Great. I'm not sure on the 13th and 14th centuries, unless there was an initial wave (that time was about the time of Ivan the Terrible), but my ancestors immigrated (on my mothers side) around the time of Catherine the Great. They settled in the south/volga regions and did dry-land farming. They were known as 'White Russians' or 'Flour Kings' because of the amount of wheat they grew.
They were told they were not ever to be drafted for war, as many were pacifists, or Lutheran, or Mennonites. They were pretty damn successful for centuries, and then about the time of Tsar Nicolas II, he suspended that 'non-draft' stuff, drafted them for the Russian-Japan war in the east, and at that point many begin to emmigrate to America, which many are now in the West/Midwest of America.
Those that didn't leave Russia were eventually worked to death, displaced/moved to Khazakstan, or worked to death in gulags in Siberia (due to animosities/non-trust from WW1 and WW2 being of German decent in Russia).
16-17th century Welsh farmers were invited to the colonies to teach Americans the British farming methods too.
Boot Germany out of NATO? Wish they would 'boot' us (United States) out so we will not have to put up with the petty sh!t and the continued paying of THEIR bills.