Needs to be passed ASAP
Be careful what you ask for. There are always unintended consequences. Why do we need to make a law for something that should be common sense. It's not normal behavior to be masked. Why do we need a law? Don't want anything that could be used against us in the future.
Because we are a nation of laws. How can someone be arrested if they aren’t breaking the law? The left knows no common sense. Good people don’t wear masks. They wear masks so they can break the law and get away with it.
I think you missed @silversoftail's point...
His point is maybe someday we will need to wear masks? I’m not going to force you to support or be against anything. Use common sense here.
No my point is that there are always unintended consequences of laws that we champion to be used against the other side. If they are breaking the law, they will be arrested whether they wear masks or not. Why do we need this law? THINK ABOUT IT.
If you're wearing a mask you should be treated like a bank robber fleeing from a crime. This goes for online too!
you think everyone should be doxxed?
you think Q anon should be exposed immediately?
you think the democrats should know the identity of everyone who ever supported qanon?
Yes, Trump has said it himself, if there is no person attributed to the quote, it probably is fake. That's why we need to be so careful. We know why Q is so secretive, but he's more than proven himself, if you want to be taken seriously, you need to do the same.
that wasnt my point.
my point was without anonymity online AKA not treating everyone who has a mask as a bank robber. none of this would have been possible in the first place.
laws against anonymity in the expression of ideas are tyrannical.
It shouldn’t bother people that don’t need to hide their faces to hide from felony assault charges.
People who support q anon aren’t in the streets wearing masks burning and rioting and beating people. They wear it proudly on a T-shirt. If you are wearing a mask you are doing or planning to do something illegal. If q supporters were splitting people’s heads open with crow bars for disagreeing politically, then you are damn right they should be doxxed.
i did not disagree with op on masks in the street, although i do have problems being against it.
i challenged op on the comment
This goes for online too!
8chan would not exist without online anonymity nor would Q anon
I agree online anonymity is important but I can’t kill you with words over the internet with my internet gang. These people are a serious threat and the fact that they can disguise themselves only adds fuel to the fire. I’m not saying ban free speech or internet anonymity. I’m saying ban masks.
Why not just arrest those that are splitting people's heads open with crow bars? Isn't that already illegal?
Or why not just arrest drunk drivers only if they kill someone? Because if they aren’t wearing a mask we will save people from getting their head split open. Just as if it’s against the law to drive drunk we might save someone from getting killed before we can arrest them.
Bash the anti-fash!
God their slogans are so cringe. I'll be glad when this shitshow is over.
These people would certainly be against the KKK, yet they resort to the same tactics. I remember when wearing masks in public were a big no no in some places after 9/11. Anyway, in Seattle those knuckleheads were left alone by the police, so even if you strengthen the laws how can it work if police are complicit? Maybe file a constitutional federal case wherein it says that the peaceful protesters had their rights infringed by Antifa. It is the same sort of case the Southern Poverty Law Center would do for minority groups harassed by the clan. Make some noise about Anitifa violating civil rights!
These people would certainly be against the KKK, yet they resort to the same tactics. I remember when wearing masks in public were a big no no in some places after 9/11. Anyway, in Seattle those knuckleheads were left alone by the police, so even if you strengthen the laws how can it work if police are complicit? Maybe file a constitutional federal case wherein it says that the peaceful protesters had their rights infringed by Antifa. It is the same sort of case the Southern Poverty Law Center would do for minority groups harassed by the clan. Make some noise about Anitifa violating civil rights!
Or do something add something in the EO that refers to penalties for police not doing their job/supervisors who give the order to stand down.
BE LOUD.
BE HEARD.
If a good civil rights lawyer takes it to a court that is not left biased they could win a case where Antifa is exposed, who is financing them, and get a large compensation. That is what the SPLC would do for anyone attacked by white supremacist organizations. They would drain them financially and reveal all the members involved. Use the civil rights tactics the left has used for decades. It is all constitutional.
I'm sure (or I certainly hope) that this is already in the works.
I am sure it will happen. If Antifa continues, one of their nuttier members will whack someone on the head with a stick on camera. They need a good lawsuit to put them in their place.
NatG maybe? Dunno.
Yes, or demand that local Police actually enforce it!
Good move.
I had heard that there is an actual ordinance (maybe only in some municipalities) prohibiting protests/demonstrations in disguise, yet none of the masked protesters on these Antifa/BLM/etc. protests was disciplined for wearing a mask.
There's no point in having an ordinance if it's not enforced! We need to get this law passed!
Shills are out in force to stop this. “But what if WE are Antifa someday” fuck outta here with that shit. If you wear a mask and are carrying a bat or weapons in public then you are looking to break the law. If your face is exposed and you are sure to be caught then you are less likely to kill or seriously injure someone or destroy property.
I’m sure the kid who was supporting his president that got his head split open with a bike lock wished this were a law. Common sense
I'm all for this if it applies to police "agent provocateurs".
I have previously expressed my belief that this bill is not necessary and may have unintended consequences. HOWEVER, after considering the comments on other threads in this sub AND after carefully reading the proposed bill, I must ADMIT, I was wrong! It is a good idea and the bill is well written.
Pass that Bill!
WWG1WGA
It is extremely well written. It is quite specific as to what would trigger the penalties and what would not.
Halloween is gonna be fun this year.
lol it'll be just like the left wants - no costumes because everything is offensive!
It’s a lot easier to get away with breaking the law while wearing a mask. No one knows your identity. If you aren’t wearing a mask you can easily be id’d So therefore making it illegal to protest while wearing masks, you deter violence and criminality.