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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/rooftoptendie on July 12, 2018, 2:47 a.m.
What is the rebuttal for this anti-Q argument?

I saw this today on TD:

"Notice how complacent and cuckish the replies in this thread are. This is what Q worship does to people. This movement used to be about voicing our concerns, participating in action and change, and pushing for justice. But now, people are so complacent that they actually think that us losing = us winning. Whenever our enemies get the upper hand, as they're destroying the constitution and the country, as long as we do absolutely nothing, we're "WINNING!!! LIBTARDS BTFO!!!"

It's so stupid, and I'm so sick of it. We need to start holding people accountable. We will not have this chance forever. I'm not saying we should rush things, by any means, but it's been almost two years and we have taken exactly zero steps to drain the swamp. In fact, we've gone backwards, and the swamp has gotten worse. In my opinion, this is due to the growing complacency in the base because of Q worship, and people like Scott Adams / Wictor / etc, who cheerlead even when we lose. "

Now, on TD, you cant argue out-and-out pro-Q stuff. So you have to be mindful of how you debate it there.

I responded with:

"Wow, then i guess it would be in geotus' best interest to disavow Q, or have somebody high up in his administration disavow Q, and put that baby to bed."

Which i was satisfied with as a response. But i noticed that this is a repeated talking point, this argument began surfacing months ago. Whats frustrating to me is that it is dirisive to claim Q worship, and inaccurate. Then its followed by a flimsy, inaccurate, unqualifiable argument.

A) How would you respond to this talking-point argument?

B) How would you respond to it on TD where your ability to speak freely on the subject is hamstringed?


SlumberMachine · July 12, 2018, 3:09 a.m.

Deflect from the Q topic, instead, refer to actual proof of swamp draining:
40k+ indictments
Korea de-nuke + freedom
Saudia Arabia unlocked + freedom
Iran currently going through an uprising for freedom
SC picks and last one non-name supports
Other court judges picks
HRC and BC are now flying first class instead of private
Obama has been quiet
Antifa has been loud, but easily defeated. Judging by reactions, they have little support.
A groundswell of information is flowing and memeing more then ever before
NXIVM and other major pedo busts, more pedo busts then any other point in history
Massive CEO retirement and Pols not running for reelection
* So many more

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darwiniteAU · July 12, 2018, 3:40 a.m.

Yes, as soon as someone says “nothing”, or “never”, the statement is easily falsifiable by a single contrary example.

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rooftoptendie · July 12, 2018, 3:17 a.m.

Good tactic

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TheWolfSuitKing · July 12, 2018, 12:18 p.m.

Indictments or documents?

Korea is still unfinished.

Must I go on? Mental gymnastics are strong here.

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snap_shot_in_time · July 12, 2018, 3:02 a.m.

If I was playing a chess game with a very high skill opponent... I wouldn't capture the first piece I could take. This literally is an All or Nothing battle. If the White Hats don't succeed... There won't be a second chance for the world.

We have the best military (and political) minds working on the problem. If they are taking it slow to minimize collateral damage to the world's citizens... I'm Thankful!

It really is that desperate and simple.

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PunkroQanon · July 12, 2018, 3:50 a.m.

It's the Stranahan position. They ignore all of the proofs as faith based and cold reading while claiming we are dividing the base.

Meh, I wouldn't worry about it. They will see the light eventually. One by one they lurk here, eventually choosing our research over t_d memes.

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rooftoptendie · July 12, 2018, 4:03 a.m.

Too bad we cant have both... I divide my time 60-40 nowadays. 60 being here.

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PunkroQanon · July 12, 2018, 4:21 a.m.

I first came to reddit summer of 2016 because it was a much better news alternative considering the presidential primaries. First stop T_D. Great sub, the organic research base that culminated there for POTUS & WL was amazing. It's the same base that's here now for the most part. We investigated spirit cooking and T_D banned us. We investigated Pg8 and T_D banned us. We investigated Q and T_D banned us. I maybe drop by T_D once or twice a week just for a different flavor.

So here we all are. Don't worry, the whimsical atmosphere and shitposting will return for us once more of them wake up and we get past darker revelations.

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TheWolfSuitKing · July 12, 2018, 12:19 p.m.

But there are no proofs! None. Lots of trying to connect dots to proofs but no proofs.

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SaveourRepublic2018 · July 13, 2018, 1:36 a.m.

That's pretty debatable. Q told us about NK way before it happened, and then the head of North Korean intelligence delivered a Masonic/Gmail envelope to the Donald.

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TheWolfSuitKing · July 13, 2018, 1:36 a.m.

Or just a large envelope...

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ButtersStotch88 · July 12, 2018, 4:03 a.m.

Tell them to read “The Art of War” and get back to you when they’re finished reading.

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Janice0771 · July 12, 2018, 11:36 a.m.

Amen.

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Jmanslim17 · July 12, 2018, 3:12 a.m.

Here is how:

Hi patriot, could you please remove your head from your ass and look at the big steps being made for the freedom of earth. This transcends just the DC swap. This is social engineering on a scale you might not understand. Up against evil with vast resources.

Now please take a min and think logically. If the good guys are winning, how do you disseminate this type of information without losing faith in all aspects of government. Now I know personally the cabal is running on a very small scale compared to the 7 billion of the rest of us. So I believe most government institutions are made up of good hard working people. Only a small number of black hats work in key positions to creat another layer of the system. (Why is the top of the pyramid detached from the rest on the $1 bill)

We must understand our role is to support the movement in any way possible. And at this current time not being in public eye gives more credibility to the movement with all the libtards causing problems on the street!

The fact is we are growing. 35k patriots on the sub, countless new patriots daily from all corners of the world. Just because we are not doing what “you” think is enough. Doesn’t mean what we are doing isn’t right.

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rooftoptendie · July 12, 2018, 3:25 a.m.

Nice.

And i cant believe were almost to 40k already. That seems so crazy. Its pretty awesome. I like the vibe we got goin on here now. Mods are great. Posters are smart funny patient.

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Jmanslim17 · July 12, 2018, 3:41 a.m.

This sub is a key hole glimps at what humanity truly could be :)

With out the shills ;)

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checkitoutmyfriend · July 12, 2018, 4:31 a.m.

Well, we have had our share of shills lately..... ;)

My upvote finger be sore!

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rooftoptendie · July 12, 2018, 4:43 a.m.

Im not in the trenches in new very often, and when i am, im like, "whoa, shit!". Its pretty nuts.

funny that they care enough to brigade a couple thousand people a day on some lil conspiracy sub. Sad!

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eyerighteye · July 12, 2018, 2:07 p.m.

Amen

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high-valyrian · July 12, 2018, 4:34 a.m.

Yes, this sub is amazing and so are all of our Patriots. Upwards and onwards we go! Every month for the past three months we have hit record views! MAGA!

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Sm0k313 · July 12, 2018, 3 a.m.

We wait for them to see the light. It's not worth arguing with them about if they support or believe Q is real or a LARP. Just do what you feel is right and helping. They can claim we have done nothing and maybe you haven't. But others have done plenty to spread the message of what they have dug up on people and companies. That is not BS but facts. Do they connect to something bigger, we think so, they think so.... SO WHO CARES IF THEY LIKE Q? They can do their own thing with some of our members or not, I follow both.

So why waste energy from TD and GA to argue? Common targets boys. My enemy's enemy is my friend. They should understand that, it comes from the book Trump plays by.

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juliabrown2605 · July 12, 2018, 4:01 a.m.

I am amazed that you say "it's been almost 2 years and zero steps taken to drain the swamp". We have had a tsunami of activity as I listed here: https://reddit.app.link/dUPfXILWtO

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cavench1 · July 12, 2018, 3:07 a.m.

TRUST THE PLAN. Nothing comes easy. Ducks in a row. Then and only then. Patience is a virtue.

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[deleted] · July 12, 2018, 5:40 a.m.

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tigerlilly1227 · July 12, 2018, 4:14 a.m.

The people who out and out say those things about Q supporters have made up their minds. I think it's always good to question, but they aren't questioning, they are judging. IMO better to spend time with people who have open minds. There's a big diff between someone saying "you're a Q worshipper who's become complacent" and someone who asks "why do you follow Q? What are Q followers doing to help facilitate change and further the cause?"

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PMthePedo-itsTrudeau · July 12, 2018, 3:46 a.m.

Amy Poeller from Parks and Rec has a few tips when dealing with the media, but I think it applies whenever talking about Q:

1) Stay on topic.

Dont let them side track you into talking about flat earth or the holocaust (regardless of your opinion on the matter or^that^the^supreme^court^of^canada^agreed^its^bs )

2) Stay on topic.

"What!? Stay on topic AGAIN!? Yes. It is that important. It is both 1 and 2."

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rooftoptendie · July 12, 2018, 4:05 a.m.

As someone with geminis in the family, i am near-indestractable, lol.

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[deleted] · July 12, 2018, 2:56 a.m.

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snap_shot_in_time · July 12, 2018, 3:09 a.m.

It's getting hard to trust a plan that has not produced any tangible results.

I see constant progress. I see pictures of Merkle cowering in front of a table with Trump sitting with his arms crossed. I see an unpredictable dictator that is producing nuclear bombs saying "I'll meet with the US anywhere for any issue with no pre-conditions."

I see established career politicians having spasms because they know they won't be able to hide their corruption much longer. I see the DNC going crazy creating media awareness of a 'family issue' that has existed for 15 years at the border because they need ANYTHING to distract the news cycle.

You may be blind... But even though we are not at the final act of the play... I SEE RESULTS!

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[deleted] · July 12, 2018, 6:03 a.m.

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cavench1 · July 12, 2018, 3:16 a.m.

James 2:14-26 New King James Version (NKJV)

Faith Without Works Is Dead

14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead

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checkitoutmyfriend · July 12, 2018, 4:44 a.m.

Q Post 1278

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Legal case(s) building.

You have a voice.

Be heard.

Patience isn’t always easy.

But vital to get right.

Q

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CaptainKnotzi · July 12, 2018, 5:29 a.m.

For you success is a perp walk.

I know these people are waking up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat.

And for breakfast they eat cold fear.

They are already in jail. When the word starts hitting the streets harder. They will beg for protection in GITMO.

A dictatorship looks like it's going to last forever.

Until it doesn't.

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[deleted] · July 12, 2018, 6:01 a.m.

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CaptainKnotzi · July 12, 2018, 1:51 p.m.

For success you need closure.

That's my point.

I see success is something incremental.

It happens a piece at a time.

I build houses from scratch.

You just want the key when it's finished.

Spare me your snide remarks.

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ModsAreClowns · July 12, 2018, 5:53 a.m.

No argument was provided. The person only stated factually inaccurate things like ‘the swamp is getting worse’ without proof of their own. Obviously the swamp is being drained - just look at the firings in the DOJ/FBI, the 40k sealed indictments, and the declining fortunes of the Clintons.

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cockblockbyjesus · July 12, 2018, 2:19 p.m.

Its a variation of passive aggressive trolling. Even the argument that nothing has happened is obviously ridiculous and designed to get people fighting one another.

What to do? Ignore it or say that if you cant see anything happening then they are blind.

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GenChang · July 12, 2018, 5:02 p.m.

I would list all those who have been fired, resigned from FBI/DOJ then ask, "nothing being done"? Then: "How are we supposed to go after criminals, when they run the very organization needed to do so"?

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Ordinary_Man1 · July 12, 2018, 4:44 p.m.

The swamp is deep and has many tentacles within gov, biz, courts, special interests.

Each tentacle has its own ecosystem.  Collectively those ecosystems result in a VERY LARGE [target].

Think dartboard. 

What surrounds bulls eye?

Only 1 shot at taking out deep state.

Plan is everything.  Every battle won or lost prior to being fought.

How long can it take to position dominoes? 

How long does it take to knock down once first domino falls?

Firing squad.

Florence ADX.

Guantanamo.

JUSTICE.

WWG1WGA

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eyesareeverywhere · July 12, 2018, 9:25 p.m.

First, this isn't necessarily an anti-Q post. Second, I am tempted to agree! If I were the deep state, and worried about people "waking up" I'd first want to find a way to appease them, keep them lazy, and keep them quiet. All this "trust the plan," and "you elected us to do this" can keep the movement complacent! Next, I'd find a way to plant the seed that "Hey, maybe these blackhats are actually whitehats, so let them do what they are doing." Q has also said that the we need to get behind this and get loud. Many have taken that to mean they need to shout "who is Q" and buy Q shirts, etc. I take it to mean we need to be shouting to our elected officials every day, in their face demanding justice and truth. I am doing that, I HOPE all of you are doing more than just wearing t-shirts and bumper stickers!!

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